Rumors about an Alpina-X1

[Andreas1984]

In the periphery of the IAA in Frankfurt the rumor persists that Alpina and BMW are very interested in launching a Alpina-Version of BMW's X1.

The Alpina-X1 should be powered by an i6-Diesel - either single-turbo or twin-turbo.
BMW won't bring an i6-Diesel because the market's demand seems to be to low and Alpina needs a "successor" of the D3 Biturbo which will be phased-out in 2011.
Regards

Andreas

 

[bmwblog]

In the periphery of the IAA in Frankfurt the rumor persists that Alpina and BMW are very interested in launching a Alpina-Version of BMW's X1.

The Alpina-X1 should be powered by an i6-Diesel - either single-turbo or twin-turbo.
BMW won't bring an i6-Diesel because the market's demand seems to be to low and Alpina needs a "successor" of the D3 Biturbo which will be phased-out in 2011.
Regards

Andreas

very interesting.

We spoke with the X1 Project leader and even though he said BMW will focus on 4 cylinder engines for now, in the future things might change. BMW never rules out anything

 

[NarutoRamen]

very interesting.

We spoke with the X1 Project leader and even though he said BMW will focus on 4 cylinder engines for now, in the future things might change. BMW never rules out anything

But then again, Alpina being a tuning house, they don't have to follow BMW's conventions. They can drop a V12 in it if their customers will buy it.

 

[Mr Robert]

But then again, Alpina being a tuning house, they don't have to follow BMW's conventions. They can drop a V12 in it if their customers will buy it.

I think Aplina will not risk the priviliged position by doing some Hartge moves. The dude said BMW will focus on I4 engines, that leaves Alpina for the I6 versions. Not out of line, simply something slightly different from what is offered by BMW. Look at the B7, for instance. Same procedure.

 

[NarutoRamen]

I think Aplina will not risk the priviliged position by doing some Hartge moves. The dude said BMW will focus on I4 engines, that leaves Alpina for the I6 versions. Not out of line, simply something slightly different from what is offered by BMW. Look at the B7, for instance. Same procedure.

I know what it means. All I'm saying is that they don't HAVE TO follow in BMW's direction. After all the customers who buy alpina are looking for something different. If Alpina's customers demand something more radical, they will give it to them. Supply and Demand.

 

[BMW///MPower]

But then again, Alpina being a tuning house, they don't have to follow BMW's conventions. They can drop a V12 in it if their customers will buy it.

That is not quite true. Alpina is a car manufacturer, not a tuner (like for instance Hartge or AC Schnitzer). BMW and alpina work very closely together in the development of engines. Remener the X5 4.8is, that was an alpina engine. The 23d engine is also developped by alpina (that is probably why there is no 323d, cause you have the alpina D3). Alpina will fill the gaps in the BMW line up, but in close cooperation with BMW.
As for an alpina X1, possible but I do not think the X models fit the alpina brand, but that is my personal opinion of course.

 

[gnx]

That is not quite true. Alpina is a car manufacturer, not a tuner (like for instance Hartge or AC Schnitzer). BMW and alpina work very closely together in the development of engines. Remener the X5 4.8is, that was an alpina engine. The 23d engine is also developped by alpina (that is probably why there is no 323d, cause you have the alpina D3). Alpina will fill the gaps in the BMW line up, but in close cooperation with BMW.
As for an alpina X1, possible but I do not think the X models fit the alpina brand, but that is my personal opinion of course.

I always find this comment on Alpina quite amusing, a manufacturer, although their cars come off the BMW assembly lines. The truth of the matter is that Alpina is just much more dependant on BMW which in turn implies much less freedom.

 

[NarutoRamen]

I always find this comment on Alpina quite amusing, a manufacturer, although their cars come off the BMW assembly lines. The truth of the matter is that Alpina is just much more dependant on BMW which in turn implies much less freedom.

Exactly. They don't build jack sh!t, they just fill in the gaps with parts left by the Manufacturer of the car, aka BMW. In other words, Alpina is doing exactly what EVERY other tuner does is offer something that the company who made the car didn't or couldn't.

 

[Mr Robert]

But the difference is that Alpina has a very different status in BMW:s eyes compared to the tuners. I think that is why you never see something like a V10 powered 3-series from Alpina.

 

[Deleted member 25]

When you buy an alpina, you buy it directly from them. You do not take your BMW to them and let them transform it.

 

[Jackbmw]

IMO none of the X Series BMWs suits the Alpina philosophy. Maybe X6 a little. I'd rather see 1-series Coupe and Cabrio from Alpina rather than the X1.

Alpina is not a Brabus which builds its own interpretations of each MB model starting from A Class ending with Unimog. It's enough when Alpina focuses on 3, 5, 6, 7 and Z Series Bimmers

 

[NarutoRamen]

When you buy an alpina, you buy it directly from them. You do not take your BMW to them and let them transform it.

That still doesn't mean they manufacture anything. If I bought my HP laptop from Department Store, does that mean they made it? No. It just means they sold it. In Alpina's case, it would be as if the Department Store sold extra bits with the Laptop and not how it came from the factory.

I understand what you people are saying, but you guys are missing the point about customer demands. If there is a HUGE shift in Alpina's customers don't you think they'll change? For F__ks sake, even BMW has changed drastically over the years and you're telling me a small company won't and can't change.

 

[Deleted member 25]

We are aware that the manufacturer title is more symbolic than anything else but you have to understand that much of Alpina's prestige relies on that title, and if BMW let them have that, it's because of their special relationships which implies among other things that ALPINA will always listen when BMW speaks.

 

[Mr Robert]

IMO none of the X Series BMWs suits the Alpina philosophy. Maybe X6 a little. I'd rather see 1-series Coupe and Cabrio from Alpina rather than the X1.

Alpina is not a Brabus which builds its own interpretations of each MB model starting from A Class ending with Unimog. It's enough when Alpina focuses on 3, 5, 6, 7 and Z Series Bimmers

The 1-series coupe and cabrio would be perfect Alpina cars, BMW could even stow away the M version of the little thing at Alpina. I'm thinking of all the great E30 Alpinas.

 

[NarutoRamen]

^^Pic ain't workin Doc.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

I see it fine.

 

[Mr Robert]

Changed the link

Imagine if Alpina would make a worthy successor of the B6 3.5...

 

[Cashmere]

Alpina seem to be stuck on an Island where time is not changing
They're styling just seems a tad too classical and IMO doesn't blend too well with some of the contemporary styled cars.

Just the thought of an Alpina X1 is rather disturbing. Its also strange that Alpina products are supposed to appeal to the premium segment and they never made an Alpina X3,X5 or X6, yet they want to make a X1?

 

[Jackbmw]

Alpina seem to be stuck on an Island where time is not changing
They're styling just seems a tad too classical and IMO doesn't blend too well with some of the contemporary styled cars.

Just the thought of an Alpina X1 is rather disturbing. Its also strange that Alpina products are supposed to appeal to the premium segment and they never made an Alpina X3,X5 or X6, yet they want to make a X1?

So one one-way ticket for that island for me please I am fed up with all those ecology and counting every single gram of CO2 as if nothing else on this world, except cars, produced this gas

I like Alpina styling, maybe a little conservative but timeless, IMO. The new B7 looks simply great in Alpina trim. I suppose their next creations will also be a perfect blend of taste, power and luxury