911 (991) [Official] Porsche 911 Carrera T

[Centurion]

Porsche 911 Carrera T
A 911 Carrera with 20kg weight reduction.
Aircon, stereo and infotainment optional.
Gearbox with short ratios and lever.
£85,576(£8,000 more than standard Carrera)
365bhp 3-litre turbo flat-six engine
0-62mph in 4.2sec
1,425kg

 

[Deleted member 1071]

Porsche 911 Carerra T
A 911 Careera with 20kg weight reduction.
Aircon, stereo and infotainment optional.
Gearbox with short ratios and lever.
£85,576(£8,000 more than standard Carrera)
365bhp 3-litre turbo flat-six engine
0-62mph in 4.2sec
1,425kg

A hefty surcharge over the standard Carrera 2 coupe ?

I'll take a standard 991.2 Carrera 2 coupe in white with oxblood leather/cloth tartan-pattern seat inlays with 20" "Carrera Sport 5-spoke" rims, aircon and Infotainment. And be very satisfied indeed.

 

[Centurion]

A hefty surcharge over the standard Carrera 2 coupe ?

As if a base Carrera isn't expensive already, this one has less equipment but cost more. It's a brain fart of a car and I find few compelling reasons why anyone would want to buy. It's resale value will unlikely be good eight.

The 20kg weight reducing isn't much. Most men can 10kg by cutting their bacon/sausage and alcohol consumption in half in 12 months.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

Because of the shorter gearing, the fuel consumption goes up quite significantly too.

Carrera
Urban 24.1 mpg (11.7 l/100km)
Extra-urban 44.8 mpg (6.3 l/100km)
Combined 34.0 mpg (8.3 l/100km)
Co2 Emissions 190

Carrera T
Urban 20.9 mpg (13.5 l/100km)
Extra-urban 39.8 mpg (7.1 l/100km)
Combined 29.7 mpg (9.5 l/100km)
Co2 emissions 215

 

[mihc]

I love it, simple car

 

[martinbo]

Yet another cynical Porsche pricing exercise. More expensive. 20kg weight reduction... pffft. Buy a standard Carrera, drive it around with no more than half a tank of juice or lose 20 kg.

 

[Kowalski]

What a piece of shit. Just buy a regular Carrera.

 

[Giannis]

After what I had for dinner today, I'd easily be 20kg lighter after tomorrow morning's visit at the toilet. I guess I just saved £8,000 more than standard Giannis.

 

[A.P.]

Why? Just why?

 

[DocM]

Porsche should have made these options (especially the shorter gear ratios and LSD) available from the get go. This is somewhat disingenuous on the behalf of Porsche and IMHO purely driven by an attempt to boost sales towards the end of the 991.2 life cycle. After some research, an Akrapovic sports exhaust will save about 9lbs and possibly gain a few pound feet of torque. Aaaaand, on a personal note, the years have caught up to me and I could certainly benefit to lose 9 or 10lbs. And that's how you go lightweight my friends.

 

[bimmer6]

When you consider the equipment the T has, it isn't more expensive than the normal Carrera. It has lighter glass, PASM, Sport Chrono package and rear wheel steering. Furthermore 20" wheels, sport exhaust system and some optical upgrades. Taking the hefty prices, which Porsche usually takes for extras into account, this car is cheaper than a Carrera with comparable equipment.

 

[PC Valkyrie]

Equipment levels aside, I think this car is going to attract customers whose budget is in the range of a standard Carrera, but instead want something "special". This will be a unique model which will offer a slightly different driving experience compared to the standard Carrera given the lightweight glass (likely making it sound louder from the inside) along with the shorter gear ratios/weight savings which will make the car faster without increasing engine power/torque.

I think it's meant to be a more "pure" 911 at a lower price point compared to 911R.

If I was getting one, it would be a stickshift with little or no other options. Such a car may be more desirable than a standard Carrera with comparable equipment.

But if you're into objective performance numbers, a 718 Cayman GTS will likely offer comparable performance for less money......as long as you're OK with not having a 911.

 

[Centurion]

When you consider the equipment the T has, it isn't more expensive than the normal Carrera. It has lighter glass, PASM, Sport Chrono package and rear wheel steering. Furthermore 20" wheels, sport exhaust system and some optical upgrades. Taking the hefty prices, which Porsche usually takes for extras into account, this car is cheaper than a Carrera with comparable equipment.

Rear axle steering isn't standard on the T but is an option while it's not on the Carrera. 20mm lower suspension isn't an option on the Carrera either.

From that point of view including the LSD, weight reductions and acceleration biased gearbox, the Carrera T isn't entirely a con. But as @DocM said, some of these options should be available to the Carrera.

If you can stretch you budget, a Carrera S with sport exhaust and -20mm suspension cost marginally more and will probably have better resale value too.

Either way it's a good direction for Porsche to make limited edition performance variants that aren't just for rich guys or flippers.

 

[Iamnotme]

EVO's Frist Drive:

VERDICT:
A really good car, but a missed opportunity also.
EVO RATING: 4.5/5

PRICE:
£85,576
FOR
A fine car made that little bit more enjoyable
AGAINST
Come on Porsche, you can try harder than this.

Link to the article

 

[rollo]

Yet another cynical Porsche pricing exercise. More expensive. 20kg weight reduction... pffft. Buy a standard Carrera, drive it around with no more than half a tank of juice or lose 20 kg.

Unless I missed something when I went through this exercise, in the U.S. a comparably equipped base Carrera was higher priced.

 

[Sunny]

I will be the contrarian - I quite like the T. Sure, it is a cynical parts bin car, but so is most of the rest of the Porsche line up. So the cynicism of the product team aside, why I dig it -

1. Value. The car has some really tasty bits - including the light weight rear glass from GT2 RS (even a GT3 doesn't get that). The only non GT car you can order with 918 bucket seats (not sure what happens to rear seat access). And of course the lower gear final ratio (at last!). I know just the last item costs ~5k after market for the GT4, so, to get it from Porsche with intact factory warranty plus all the other bits make it quite a good value for money if you are looking for something focused.

2. I think it is great you can get focused version of the base model. Why do you have to pony up for the top of the line to have just have fun? The new GT3 is quite expensive, it starts at $145k, with a few choice options, it is a $170k car. That is completely different segment from where GT3 started out - a ~100k focused 911. Sure, the T is no GT3 Touring, but for the street, it might be more than enough, and from what I read, not that much slower either - 2018 Porsche 911 Carrera T First Drive | Review | Car and Driver

c. The engine. you don't need gazillion HP to have fun, it fact, lesser the better (within reason). And again from what I read, the base version of 9A2 is the real gem - most responsive and closest to NA, thanks to smaller turbos compares to the S and GTS versions.

So, I am thankful to the 911 gods that the T came into being. And how I would want mine -

 

[TopspeedPT]

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