Modern Era Supercars


Which One?

  • Ferrari Enzo

    Votes: 4 6.9%
  • Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano

    Votes: 5 8.6%
  • Porsche Carrera GT

    Votes: 20 34.5%
  • Lamborghini Murcielago

    Votes: 3 5.2%
  • Mercedes SLR McLaren

    Votes: 10 17.2%
  • Maserati MC12

    Votes: 2 3.4%
  • Pagani Zonda C12 S

    Votes: 7 12.1%
  • Koenigsegg CCR

    Votes: 1 1.7%
  • Ford GT

    Votes: 1 1.7%
  • RUF RT12

    Votes: 5 8.6%

  • Total voters
    58

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Which One?

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Enzo technical data
Performance
Max speed 217 miles/h (350 km/h)
0-100 km/h 3.6 seconds
0-160 km/h 7.0 seconds
0-200 km/h 9.5 seconds
0-300 km/h 26.1 seconds
Quarter mile 11.0 at 133.9mph seconds
0-100-0 mph 11.0 seconds
Engine
Power 485 kw (651hp / 660 ps)
Torque 657 Nm (485 Lb-Ft)
Displacement 6.0 liters
Engine type V12
Engine location middle
General data
Gearbox 6 speed
Drive rear
Mass 1365 kilograms (3003 lbs)
Weight distribution 44-56%
Year of introduction 2002
Home country Italy
Calculations
Power to Weight ratio 476.9 hp/tonne
Power per liter 81 kw/liter
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599 GTB Fiorano technical data
Performance
Max speed 205.22 miles/h (331 km/h)
0-100 km/h 3.5 seconds
0-160 km/h 6.8 seconds
0-200 km/h 10.3 seconds
0-300 km/h 29.9 seconds
Quarter mile 11.2 seconds
0-100-0 mph -
Engine
Power 456 kw (612hp / 620 ps)
Torque 608 Nm (448 Lb-Ft)
Displacement 6.0 liters
Engine type V12
Engine location front
General data
Gearbox 6 speed
Drive rear
Mass 1748 kilograms (3846 lbs)
Weight distribution 48.1 / 51.9
Year of introduction 2006
Home country Italy
Calculations
Power to Weight ratio 349.84 hp/tonne
Power per liter 76 kw/liter
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Carrera GT technical data
Performance
Max speed 204.6 miles/h (330 km/h)
0-100 km/h 3.8 seconds
0-160 km/h 6.8 seconds
0-200 km/h 9.9 seconds
0-300 km/h 34.2 seconds
Quarter mile 11.1 seconds
0-100-0 mph 11.3 seconds
Engine
Power 450 kw (604hp / 612 ps)
Torque 590 Nm (435 Lb-Ft)
Displacement 5.7 liters
Engine type V10, 40v
Engine location middle
General data
Gearbox 6
Drive rear
Mass 1380 kilograms (3036 lbs)
Weight distribution -
Year of introduction 2003
Home country Germany
Calculations
Power to Weight ratio 437.41 hp/tonne
Power per liter 79 kw/liter
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Murcielago technical data
Performance
Max speed 204.6 miles/h (330 km/h)
0-100 km/h 3.6 seconds
0-160 km/h 8.3 seconds
0-200 km/h 11.4 seconds
0-300 km/h 34.2 seconds
Quarter mile 11.7 seconds
0-100-0 mph -
Engine
Power 427 kw (572hp / 580 ps)
Torque 650 Nm (479 Lb-Ft)
Displacement 6.2 liters
Engine type V12
Engine location middle
General data
Gearbox 6 speed
Drive all wheel drive
Mass 1800 kilograms (3960 lbs)
Weight distribution -
Year of introduction 2002
Home country Italy
Calculations
Power to Weight ratio 317.81 hp/tonne
Power per liter 69 kw/liter
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SLR McLaren technical data
Performance
Max speed 207.08 miles/h (334 km/h)
0-100 km/h 3.7 seconds
0-160 km/h 7.42 seconds
0-200 km/h 10.91 seconds
0-300 km/h 31.91 seconds
Quarter mile 11.6 seconds
0-100-0 mph -
Engine
Power 460 kw (617hp / 626 ps)
Torque 780 Nm (575 Lb-Ft)
Displacement 5.4 liters
Engine type Supercharged V8
Engine location front
General data
Gearbox 5 speed auto
Drive rear
Mass 1768 kilograms (3890 lbs)
Weight distribution 50 / 50
Year of introduction 2003
Home country Germany
Calculations
Power to Weight ratio 349.23 hp/tonne
Power per liter 85 kw/liter
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MC12 technical data
Performance
Max speed 204.6 miles/h (330 km/h)
0-100 km/h 3.8 seconds
0-160 km/h -
0-200 km/h -
0-300 km/h -
Quarter mile -
0-100-0 mph -
Engine
Power 456 kw (612hp / 620 ps)
Torque Nm (- Lb-Ft)
Displacement 6.0 liters
Engine type V12
Engine location middle
General data
Gearbox 6 speed
Drive rear
Mass 1335 kilograms (2937 lbs)
Weight distribution -
Year of introduction 2004
Home country Italy
Calculations
Power to Weight ratio 458.07 hp/tonne
Power per liter 76 kw/liter
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Zonda C12 S technical data
Performance
Max speed 204.6 miles/h (330 km/h)
0-100 km/h 3.7 seconds
0-160 km/h -
0-200 km/h 11.2 seconds
0-300 km/h -
Quarter mile -
0-100-0 mph -
Engine
Power 408 kw (547hp / 555 ps)
Torque 750 Nm (553 Lb-Ft)
Displacement 7.3 liters
Engine type V12, 48V
Engine location Middle
General data
Gearbox 6
Drive Rear
Mass 1250 kilograms (2750 lbs)
Weight distribution -
Year of introduction 2002
Home country Italy
Calculations
Power to Weight ratio 437.93 hp/tonne
Power per liter 56 kw/liter
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CCR technical data
Performance
Max speed 240.4794 miles/h (387.87 km/h)
0-100 km/h 3.9 seconds
0-160 km/h 6.8 seconds
0-200 km/h 9.6 seconds
0-300 km/h -
Quarter mile -
0-100-0 mph -
Engine
Power 593 kw (795hp / 806 ps)
Torque 920 Nm (679 Lb-Ft)
Displacement 4.7 liters
Engine type Supercharged V8
Engine location middle
General data
Gearbox 6 speed
Drive rear
Mass 1418 kilograms (3120 lbs)
Weight distribution -
Year of introduction 2004
Home country Sweden
Calculations
Power to Weight ratio 560.81 hp/tonne
Power per liter 126 kw/liter
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GT technical data
Performance
Max speed 204.6 miles/h (330 km/h)
0-100 km/h 3.9 seconds
0-160 km/h 7.4 seconds
0-200 km/h 12.0 seconds
0-300 km/h 33.6 seconds
Quarter mile 11.2 at 131.2 seconds
0-100-0 mph 11.7 seconds
Engine
Power 405 kw (542hp / 550 ps)
Torque 774 Nm (571 Lb-Ft)
Displacement 5.4 liters
Engine type Supercharged V8
Engine location middle
General data
Gearbox 6 gear manual
Drive rear
Mass 1538 kilograms (3384 lbs)
Weight distribution 43-57%
Year of introduction 2004
Home country USA
Calculations
Power to Weight ratio 352.72 hp/tonne
Power per liter 75 kw/liter
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RT12 technical data
Performance
Max speed 223.2 miles/h (360 km/h)
0-100 km/h 3.4 seconds
0-160 km/h 6.8 seconds
0-200 km/h 9.8 seconds
0-300 km/h 24.8 seconds
Quarter mile -
0-100-0 mph -
Engine
Power 485 kw (650hp / 659 ps)
Torque 870 Nm (642 Lb-Ft)
Displacement 3.8 liters
Engine type Flat 6, 24 Valve, Twin Turbo
Engine location Rear
General data
Gearbox 6 Speed Manual
Drive AWD
Mass 1573 kilograms (3461 lbs)
Weight distribution -
Year of introduction 2005
Home country Germany
Calculations
Power to Weight ratio 413.22 hp/tonne
Power per liter 128 kw/liter
 
Best car is probably the CGT but the Enzo adds to that a whole lot of drama. The latter is more important than being good in the supercar department.

Ferrari Enzo it is.
 
Lamborghini Murcielago (soon to be replaced) will always be a classic.
It's design, it's purpose, it's engineering.. :bowdown:

Still a Modern supercar need to be more like the
MC12 so that's where my vote vent...

:cool:Maserati MC12 - The one and only Maserati I LOVE!!!:icondrool
 
Porsche Carrera GT all the way. The most fascinating of them all. Close second would be the Zonda, even if I am no great fan of its design.


Far far behind them would come the Murcielago, a design and drama masterpiece.

The 599 is not really a supercar, neither is the Ruf (despite its astonishing performances).

My thoughts on the others, with no particular order: The Enzo and its MC12-sibling always let me cold, as does the CCR. The Ford is not as appealing as the others, and then SLR... well, it's the supercar for daily-use...which is somehow the negation of the supercar-concept... From these I'd surely pick the 599 in dark red.
 
Lamborghini Murcielago (lp640):cool:

My favorite supercar of all time:bowdown:

Everything about it is perfect, design wise, engineering wise and sheer driving pleasure:bowdown:

Simply amazing:)
 
Ameen to the Lp-640 but the car we have up there is a normal Murcielago! So, I'll take the Carrera-Gt here! :usa7uh:
 
I'll take the Zonda boys. It's very unique and changed the game when it came out. Of course, I'd rather take the Zonda_F over the C12 S, but either of them is fine.
 
SLR please,better yet make it in 722 guise:D

Nothing of those cars offer what SLR does,it combines MB traditional comfort and safety with crushing power and performance add to that more than enough handling for 99% of drivers.

SLR by a long shot:bowdown::bowdown::D
 
in some way or the other, eacho one of these cars offers something quite unique, there is no denying that every single one pushes the envelope of handling, power, usabilty, speed, and sheer automotive technology like nothing else on the road right now.

of course this comparison is flawed in essense, as no two of these cars really do compete in terms of anything, bar price and perceived conceptual imagine in the minds of most laymen.

of all of these one can single out the GT capabilities of the SLR, though in all respects most flawed as a supercar, the surgical precision of the porsche CGT, the italian insensibility of the murcielago, the illogical roar of an enzo, the physics bending engineering of the RUF Rt12, and so on.

but however you put it, in no way can any of them compare to the sheer unbridled blasphemous madness of the maserati MC12. and this is what separates it form all of the others.

built in minute numbers for homologation, absolutely no consideration for comfort, based on one of the most complete chassis and engines, yet taking them to another level. as long as a 7 series yet a hobbit would feel cramped. however you put the MC12 is the only car still standing as standard bearer of the madness in the automotive world, its building carries absolutely no logic, no sense, no no nothing, and yet it simply works.

if there is a god, we should thank him that cars like the MC12 still exist today
 
Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano for me in my wildest fantasies...

All the supercar you'll ever need and more GT perfection than anything else on the road. That makes it the most versatile option for touring as well a fully usable trackday prospect.

Its V12 engine is epic and the car features some of the most sophisticated engine and drivetrain management technology around. Oh, and 599's can be had in RHD which is key consideration for folks like us. A Carrera GT is arguably more special but not quite as versatile as the Ferrari.
 
That makes it the most versatile option for touring as well a fully usable trackday prospect.

I agree with u except about this one,everyone know that Italian cars are definitely not the most everyday use and abuse type of cars;)

Get a German or Asian cars for that purpose:D

The 599 is best handler GT now on sale with the one of the quickest sequential too but it's reliability and safety equipment are short of something German called the SLR:usa7uh::D
 
in some way or the other, eacho one of these cars offers something quite unique, there is no denying that every single one pushes the envelope of handling, power, usabilty, speed, and sheer automotive technology like nothing else on the road right now.

of course this comparison is flawed in essense, as no two of these cars really do compete in terms of anything, bar price and perceived conceptual imagine in the minds of most laymen.

of all of these one can single out the GT capabilities of the SLR, though in all respects most flawed as a supercar, the surgical precision of the porsche CGT, the italian insensibility of the murcielago, the illogical roar of an enzo, the physics bending engineering of the RUF Rt12, and so on.

but however you put it, in no way can any of them compare to the sheer unbridled blasphemous madness of the maserati MC12. and this is what separates it form all of the others.

built in minute numbers for homologation, absolutely no consideration for comfort, based on one of the most complete chassis and engines, yet taking them to another level. as long as a 7 series yet a hobbit would feel cramped. however you put the MC12 is the only car still standing as standard bearer of the madness in the automotive world, its building carries absolutely no logic, no sense, no no nothing, and yet it simply works.

if there is a god, we should thank him that cars like the MC12 still exist today

Good post. There is one thing about the MC12 which I am not too sure about. I have always thought of the MC12 as a tone down version of the Ferrari Enzo, a slightly softer version with slightly less high tech features. It did have a quicker lap time around the Ring than the Enzo, but that is because the dampers failed on the Enzo.
 
Nothing of those cars offer what SLR does,it combines MB traditional comfort and safety with crushing power and performance add to that more than enough handling for 99% of drivers.

Thank God for that, thats what the makes the SLR boring. MB and their freaking traditions.....blääh!!
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I'll go with the Carrera GT, best engine sound in a roadcar ever. I dont care if I cant drive it, I could sit in my garage and just listen to the engine sound :bowdown::bowdown:
 
SLR please,better yet make it in 722 guise:D

Nothing of those cars offer what SLR does,it combines MB traditional comfort and safety with crushing power and performance add to that more than enough handling for 99% of drivers.

Yeah. But the SL65 AMG does just exactly the same. And is easier to live with. And it's a V12.

ANd that's the freakin' problem with the SLR. Motor and gearbox are not on the same level as the others. Really not. Especially the gearbox.
 
Tarek, the SLR is a boat. It can't match the mechanical sophistication of the 599. Nor the true pedigree (there's no McLaren ethos in that SLR whatsover - that's why Gordon Murray distances himself from the thing) of the Ferrari.

I don't want the 599 for everyday use, I said that it'd be great for touring. Like a drive through Tuscany or the Cape Winelands or Northern Scotland - stuff like that.

The SLR is ludicrously overrated. It gets rave reviews from no-one else but avid Mercedes Benz fans. The 599 on the other hand, well, I can only recall rave reviews. ;)

As for issues of reliability? Sheesh dude, you can afford a 599... I'm sure you'll have another runabout or two for when the Fezza goes in for a new clutch. As for safety? Crash an SLR or 599 at 200 km/h and you'll look the same: mincemeat.

The SLR is the failed supercar of our times.
 
Tarek, the SLR is a boat. It can't match the mechanical sophistication of the 599. Nor the true pedigree (there's no McLaren ethos in that SLR whatsover - that's why Gordon Murray distances himself from the thing) of the Ferrari.

I don't want the 599 for everyday use, I said that it'd be great for touring. Like a drive through Tuscany or the Cape Winelands or Northern Scotland - stuff like that.

The SLR is ludicrously overrated. It gets rave reviews from no-one else but avid Mercedes Benz fans. The 599 on the other hand, well, I can only recall rave reviews. ;)

As for issues of reliability? Sheesh dude, you can afford a 599... I'm sure you'll have another runabout or two for when the Fezza goes in for a new clutch. As for safety? Crash an SLR or 599 at 200 km/h and you'll look the same: mincemeat.

The SLR is the failed supercar of our times.

Amen! :eusa_clap
 
Thank God for that, thats what the makes the SLR boring. MB and their freaking traditions.....blääh!!

Well if a 457hp MB made u smile and have fun then how about a 650hp kompressor V8? it is really silly to say that 650hp is boring to drive when most of us are driving sub-200hp cars,yes i know it's not all about power but that much power is hell lot of fun;):D

Yeah. But the SL65 AMG does just exactly the same. And is easier to live with. And it's a V12.

ANd that's the freakin' problem with the SLR. Motor and gearbox are not on the same level as the others. Really not. Especially the gearbox.

-Well u can't blame MB for giving it's loyal customer much more insane power options than any maker in the world;)
-Yes old engine and gearbox,but that engine and old gearbox and despite the boat heavy figures is propelling the SLR faster than 99% of cars in this poll:usa7uh::D

Tarek, the SLR is a boat. It can't match the mechanical sophistication of the 599. Nor the true pedigree (there's no McLaren ethos in that SLR whatsover - that's why Gordon Murray distances himself from the thing) of the Ferrari.

I don't want the 599 for everyday use, I said that it'd be great for touring. Like a drive through Tuscany or the Cape Winelands or Northern Scotland - stuff like that.

The SLR is ludicrously overrated. It gets rave reviews from no-one else but avid Mercedes Benz fans. The 599 on the other hand, well, I can only recall rave reviews. ;)

As for issues of reliability? Sheesh dude, you can afford a 599... I'm sure you'll have another runabout or two for when the Fezza goes in for a new clutch. As for safety? Crash an SLR or 599 at 200 km/h and you'll look the same: mincemeat.

The SLR is the failed supercar of our times.

Well as i said i agree about the 599 being the better "driver" car but without any doubt SLR is much more suited to live with,long trips,"touring" and doin that with absolute traditional German safety and comfort.

And if we should measure safety from ur perspective like crashing cars from 200km to zero,(yes most of cars would look the same) but then why bother with all the safety RD and advancing it? why buy a MB or Volvo instead of any other Asian or American cars? why do MB are harvesting all the safety awards in Germany and around the world? why does Volvo since ever advertising and promoting itself as one of the safest cars around?
 

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