Jesko [Official] Koenigsegg Jesko

[Tourbillon]

I thought so too. I've watched a lot of these Jesko videos and never got the impression that the flexfuel sensor isn't standard equipment.

But, in this video from March 2023 a Koenigsegg employee says that 1600 PS E85 will be a paid option for Jesko.

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The video doesn't matter much. The website since 2019 or whenever has said 1600hp. You've to hold them to that much? Otherwise what's the point.

 

[Tourbillon]

I would assume it's the same deal on both variants.

Just watched couple more Jesko videos with CvK. He never makes it clear that this is a paid option.
In one video, he said something along the lines of: "It's 1280 PS on pump gas, but fill up with E85 and you get 1600 PS."
Maybe the flex fuel really was meant to be a standard equipment, but then at one point they decided to charge extra for it. They gotta pay for that new factory somehow

This kind of obfuscation does spoil one's impression of the brand somewhat. Not that I feel entitled to know every single thing about the car. At least I hope they were more upfront about it with their (prospective) customers.

It absolutely does.

 

[Jonathan19]

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Is there any comparative laptimes?

Seca, Silverstone or Spa are the ones I usually follow? I have heard of this track, I think.

 

[Jonathan19]

Is there any comparative laptimes?

Din't even know about this track before

 

[Tourbillon]

Din't even know about this track before

Exactly I rest my case!

 

[klier]

Exactly I rest my case!

Don't rest. It's a famous track, and the previous record was a 911 GT3 RS Manthey. Which was a whopping 7 seconds slower.

Is there any comparative laptimes?

Seca, Silverstone or Spa are the ones I usually follow? I have heard of this track, I think.

It's going to utterly destroy most other cars on tracks like Silverstone and Spa. Dear Lord, they are far beyond anything from Italy, the U.K or Germany.

 

[Tourbillon]

Don't rest. It's a famous track, and the previous record was a 911 GT3 RS Manthey. Which was a whopping 7 seconds slower.

Yes, the Porsche 991.X? And? Wow.

So yes, I rest my case. Unless your being ironic, it's a real funny day today.

Spa Francochamps- Pagani Huyara BC. Jack Nicholson Mono et Mono bring it on.

Mercedes AMG One or Aston Martin Valkyrie tracks, 6 racetracks those are racetracks people know.

Not Croft or the likes. Smh.

 

[klier]

Lets hope they bring the car to more tracks for more fair comparisons.

 

[bmwz4coupe]

Brilliant Koenigsegg, set a fastest lap around a circuit where there are no other lap times….(at least cant see any in fastestlaps)
And why not tell us which tyres they used on this «record» lap
But its the same, I frankly dont bother anymore about the claims of Koenigsegg. Let independant magazines test your cars and then we can talk….
The most interesting with this video was to see this hideous speedmeter on the steering wheel, you can only read it when you drive straight. In a curve the arms will be in the way and in a sharp turn you must look down at your d¥ck to be able to see the speed…. Jesus Chris, why must they always re-invent things that already works…?

 

[klier]

Brilliant Koenigsegg, set a fastest lap around a circuit where there are no other lap times….(at least cant see any in fastestlaps)

I don't quite understand, why even doubt it's one of the fastest street legal cars ever made on a track as well?
It's as light as a GT3 RS with three times as much power, twice as much downforce, etc etc. The gap on that track in comparison with the GT3 RS Manthey is significant, no matter it's a 991. We're talking about a 5% faster lap which is a big gap and not something a 992 will easily closes (or at all).

Not downplaying the GT3 at all whatsoever, but this Jesko is not just a straight line beast. Beating a Manthey with such a gap makes it a track tool unlike almost any other car. Next to being uber luxurious, with tech that makes a Chiron looks like a simple VAG project, and with quality that rivals the best of Germany. All that while complying to all the rules in every major market, something Mercedes can't do with their failed One.

Jesus Chris, why must they always re-invent things that already works…?

Their manual transmission as seen in the CC850 is pure genius, as are many of their solutions. What they re-invent is vastly superior to what the OEMS create. Like, there is not even a comparison.

No flywheel, no clutch. They invent new stuff never seen before.

 

[Bridster]

I don't quite understand, why even doubt it's one of the fastest street legal cars ever made on a track as well?
It's as light as a GT3 RS with three times as much power, twice as much downforce, etc etc. The gap on that track in comparison with the GT3 RS Manthey is significant, no matter it's a 991. We're talking about a 5% faster lap which is a big gap and not something a 992 will easily closes (or at all).

Not downplaying the GT3 at all whatsoever, but this Jesko is not just a straight line beast. Beating a Manthey with such a gap makes it a track tool unlike almost any other car. Next to being uber luxurious, with tech that makes a Chiron looks like a simple VAG project, and with quality that rivals the best of Germany. All that while complying to all the rules in every major market, something Mercedes can't do with their failed One.



Their manual transmission as seen in the CC850 is pure genius, as are many of their solutions. What they re-invent is vastly superior to what the OEMS create. Like, there is not even a comparison.

No flywheel, no clutch. They invent new stuff never seen before.

The thing is that all you mention comes only from Koenigsegg's marketing. That's the exact problem that I and many other people here have - that Koenigsegg are very averse to any form of independent testing. Last time they did that was in 2007 with the CCX.

This latest lap time is just another serving of that. Even just from the start, doing a factory lap on a track where only independent laps exist is meaningless, because your lap would be several seconds quicker. More than that, they did it on a track which has basically no lap times at all. We don't know if the time they quote for the GT3RS is accurate, we don't know which version of the GT3RS it is, we don't know on what tires it was or who drove it. So really, this comparison doesn't tell us literally anything.

Now, it might very well be (and, frankly, it better) that the Jesko is much faster the GT3RS (991.2?), but the fact remains that this does little to actually prove that. If they want to demonstrate how fast the Jesko is, either go to the N-ring where it can at least be compared to other factory laps, or lend it to some publication for independent testing. Surely, if the Jesko is so fast and great, Koenigsegg should be eager to show it off.

Same goes for all the other stuff, like their gearbox, the build quality, reliability, etc. None of that proven at all, but still already hailed as "genius" and "superior" just on the basis of watching a Koenigsegg marketing video where they say it is.

 

[Jo_Sta7]

The Jesko and cars like it are too powerful. There’s a massive diminishing return to power on a track set up car over 400 hp/ton (or their abouts). But Jesko looks great, sounds great, is tremendously fast, build quality and detail seem great. It’s rare. The manufacturer only dribbles out these tests to keep their owners somewhat happy (but they don’t really care).

 

[bmwz4coupe]

Until the CCR/CCX model Koenigsegg let independant magazines test their cars. There where several accidents where the journalists crashed out of the circuit when trying to set a lap time, and this where experienced drivers. Even Koenigsegg’s factory driver crashed when trying to set an official time around Nurnburgring(!), so no time was set. And when the journalists managed to keep the car on track, it was slower than Porsche Carrera GT which had 200 ps less and aprox the same weight (and same tires). It wasn’t even faster on acceleration runs. So the car clearly had problems making effective use of all the horsepower. And on top of this the handling was dangerous.
After this Koenigsegg didnt allow independant magazines to test their cars anymore. That says it all, really.

 

[klier]

After this Koenigsegg didnt allow independant magazines to test their cars anymore. That says it all, really.

It really doesn't. They simply don't bother, as their cars all are sold out within hours of announcing them.

There is no point in letting the press try your 3 million dollar car. There really isn't.

 

[Bucketslash11]

The thing is that all you mention comes only from Koenigsegg's marketing. That's the exact problem that I and many other people here have - that Koenigsegg are very averse to any form of independent testing. Last time they did that was in 2007 with the CCX.

This latest lap time is just another serving of that. Even just from the start, doing a factory lap on a track where only independent laps exist is meaningless, because your lap would be several seconds quicker. More than that, they did it on a track which has basically no lap times at all. We don't know if the time they quote for the GT3RS is accurate, we don't know which version of the GT3RS it is, we don't know on what tires it was or who drove it. So really, this comparison doesn't tell us literally anything.

Now, it might very well be (and, frankly, it better) that the Jesko is much faster the GT3RS (991.2?), but the fact remains that this does little to actually prove that. If they want to demonstrate how fast the Jesko is, either go to the N-ring where it can at least be compared to other factory laps, or lend it to some publication for independent testing. Surely, if the Jesko is so fast and great, Koenigsegg should be eager to show it off.

Same goes for all the other stuff, like their gearbox, the build quality, reliability, etc. None of that proven at all, but still already hailed as "genius" and "superior" just on the basis of watching a Koenigsegg marketing video where they say it is.

and that is why i never bought into the Koenigsegg hype