Interview with Mercedes Head of Design Gorden Wagener on the new E Coupé and Design


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Stuttgart, Germany, Apr 24, 2009

What's special about a coupé?

Coupés have a long tradition at Mercedes-Benz. A coupé must have emotive appeal, it must address all the senses.

What are the particular challenges that a coupé poses for the designers at Mercedes-Benz? To what extent is a different approach required?

Every Mercedes-Benz coupé is an elegant automobile, yet at the same time an automobile with a highly emotive appeal. It must, therefore, address all the senses and additionally offer something of the unexpected, a dash of audacity. In short, a Mercedes coupé makes the pulse race - but the observer is never exactly sure whether this is because of the vehicle's elegance or its dynamism.


How close is the relationship between the E-Class saloon and the coupé?


The coupé deliberately makes no attempt to hide the fact that it is a close relative of the new E-Class saloon. This can clearly be seen from the vehicle's twin headlamps, which are likewise in the shape of rhomboids. However, their styling is sportier and sharper, and they have a more dynamic and aggressive look. In common with the new E-Class, the rear wing of the coupé boasts the same forceful curves. Yet, despite its family resemblance to the E-Class, the new coupé has an independent, passionate and sporty character.

Mercedes-Benz has stayed with the twin headlamps for the new E-Class. Why?

The twin headlamps have been a key element in the visual appearance of the E-Class since 1995 and are therefore one of our traditional recognition symbols. We didn't want to do without them. However, the headlamps are now no longer oval in shape, but more progressive and based on the geometrical forms of cubism. This makes them look like polished jewels, and they present a completely new image -- surprising, yet nonetheless unmistakable. The E-Class is seen once again with "New Eyes".

How did the new design idiom come into being?

It was developed and coordinated with great effort in the course of a long process, the principal objective being to ensure the outward reflection of inner values - character and premium quality.

How do you design a coupé without making the saloon look bad?

You first have to design a great saloon - that's the starting point for making other "family members" look good.

Mercedes-Benz has created numerous legendary coupés - doesn't such a "heritage" make the designer nervous?

If anything, it's a great challenge. After all, every Mercedes-Benz coupé should be something absolutely special - as regards its engineering and, above all, as regards its styling. My team and I approach this task with great enthusiasm.

When were you first bitten by the Mercedes bug?

My first encounter with a Mercedes was around 30 years ago. As a small boy, I was standing in front of a 123 series model, a dark blue 230 CE, and was fascinated by its form and presence. My father was also a Mercedes fan.

Where do your best ideas come from?

Often, it's something spontaneous: a single glance at a street scene, during a walk in the countryside or on a visit to a museum - a designer is open to his surroundings and lets himself be inspired - 24 hours a day.

Do you still design?

Yes, I've been known to sketch the odd car or detail at a meeting because an idea came to me and the meeting just happened at that moment not to be quite so interesting. Three lines are sometimes all it takes to show where things might lead. It used to be my ambition as head of design to be the best at designing, but that definitely isn't the case any more. Yet I must still remain capable of presenting a good design. That's a personal ambition of mine.

What do/did you find fascinating about designing automobiles, then as a young designer and today all those years later?

Design always continues to evolve - just like society. I find this fascinating, because we designers help to shape the future. For my team and me, each new day begins with a journey into the future and with the ideas we are planning for the years to come. This is what drives me every day.

What does Mercedes design mean to you?

Designing a Mercedes is always something very special. For me, Mercedes design is a story of pure excitement - past, present and future.

Does every Mercedes model have its own unique personality?

Each Mercedes model has its own personality, both those of the past and also those of the present. Although there is a distinct family relationship, each member of the family is unique and unmistakable. Every Mercedes reflects the basic values of the brand while still having its own unique character. The E-Class Coupé represents emotive appeal combined with efficiency.

How important for you is the design of the interior?

It's quite simply the case that people spend more time inside their vehicles than in front of them. This means that the design of the interior is just as important as that of the exterior . Quality and attention to detail are things that are directly felt and experienced every time you get into an automobile. The goal, therefore, is for the design of the exterior to be carried through into the interior, reflecting the character of the vehicle in high-quality, authentic materials. You need to feel a Mercedes, you need to get in and drive it in order to experience the passion with which we have worked on it over a period of many years. The importance of the interior is also demonstrated by the fact that we have set up our own competence centre for interior design.

What's your opinion of green design?

Green design is a mega trend, and one that will occupy us over the coming years. For we already today face the following questions: What can we learn from nature? What new forms will our customers accept? And can you tell how eco-friendly a car is simply by looking at it?

Is there a Mercedes-Benz design philosophy?

Yes, of course. Put simply, a Mercedes is always recognisable as a Mercedes. Its design reflects the brand values - quality, performance, innovation, safety, comfort and excitement, to name but a few. And a Mercedes never looks old, even after 30 years on the road. That's what we call long-life design.

"Form follows function" or "function follows form" - how close, and how early, does the interaction between car design and engineering development need to be?
From the initial idea through to the finished automobile, we are in intensive contact with one another, because our goal is the optimum result in every respect.

Is it important that design should arouse passion in the observer?

For us, it means that we appeal to people directly through the senses and not just through rationality. We therefore make automobiles that exhibit all the highly prized attributes that are typical of Mercedes while, at the same time, displaying a dash of audacity, a breath of irrationality. Nevertheless, a Mercedes never denies that it is a Mercedes. Our intention is to generate enthusiasm - and pride of ownership.

How can you tell whether a design is successful?

What is decisive is the success of an automobile - when many customers decide themselves for the car.

Does the same apply also to future automobiles, which will be subject to new environmental constraints?

Most definitely. Emotive appeal, pride of ownership and driving pleasure will continue in future to belong to the core values of the Mercedes-Benz brand. I promise that it will always be fun to drive a Mercedes, and a Mercedes will always be exciting in appearance, set technological and visual trends and be in demand.

Interview with Mercedes Head of Design Gorden Wagener on the new E Coupé and Design



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The Designers Pt1 – Gorden Wagener, Daimler
by Guy Bird -- Car Design News

Name Gorden Wagener
Role VP design, Daimler
Age, nationality 46, German
Location Stuttgart, Germany
Education Essen University & RCA

For Mercedes, the situation is almost 180-degrees different from 2013. We've really changed, not just in terms of profit and sales, but in perception – and a big part of that has been through design. We had the C-Class, S-Class Coupé launch and the S-Class become fully on sale and now we have the youngest portfolio in the market. The public and media suddenly realized the homework we've done over the last five years.

This success strengthens the position of design within the company, so now we not only focus on car design but also advertising and showroom architecture. Everything you see and touch goes through our hands and follows our guidelines. I think that's a big achievement.

I think the industry as a whole is starting to recover too. The Japanese are back with Toyota and America with GM doing quality products. The entire US economy is up which pushes the world up. Forecasts say China's double-digit growth will continue and the Western part is still undeveloped, which means a lot of potential.

We opened our new Chinese studio in November 2014 after looking for years. It's a brand-new industrial building in the artist quarter of north-east Beijing. It's part of the R&D center but we have separate studio areas for our joint-venture projects as well as Mercedes ones, full-size plates, space for 50 designers and an outside viewing space. In Beijing that's unique. Overall, I'd say it's five times bigger than the Tokyo studio. It's a big deal.

It's also the first prototype for a new design center that will work for different divisions within Daimler and also for different design units. Typically all our foreign studios have belonged to our advanced organization, but in the future they will work for exterior, interior and advanced. Digital design will also be undertaken there because the Chinese have a different way of approaching things so it's important to understand that better. These designers will report to a new head of digital design with facilities in Germany and Sunnyvale, California too.

We are looking at bundling our activities. We closed the Tokyo studio in 2014 in order to concentrate everything in Beijing. From a management point of view it's important to involve yourself personally and if you have too many places that's difficult.

"The key is to make
the car link to the
entire digital world"

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We still have our separate truck design places though. I was in Portland recently and got to drive the full-size stunt version of the Optimus Prime truck from The Transformers which was great. The autonomous driving future truck concept we showed in Hannover in September was quite different but still futuristic with graphic lights shining through the paintwork. It's completely clean when all the lights are out.

In 2015 we expect continuous growth. New products create growth and we will launch more cars in 2015 than in 2014, which in turn was more than 2013. The big thing for us this year is SUVs. We started in 2014 with the GLA and the Concept Coupé SUV and soon you will see a new GLK in right- and left-hand drive and a re-invention of all our big SUVs. If you look at our SUV line-up currently there's a lot of diversity from edgy to round. With our SUVs, the larger they get, the cleaner they get.

Digital really will change the car in the next 15 years more than it did in the last 50. The next generation of cars will not be fully autonomous but they might drive autonomously on the highway. That will change the meaning of the car, especially on the interior, because you can do all these other things. This is why Google is so interested. They don't want to produce cars but they are interested in that side. In between the motor companies we'll see new players like them. We have the Apple CarPlay system in our cars now and we are in talks with Google and others.

It's an interesting situation because the car industry has to recruit people out of other fields of business – graphic and interaction designers and software engineers – who are not typically ‘automotive first'. We have problems sometimes finding the right people and we can't recruit as many as we already need which for us is the biggest growing field.

Of course we will be in competition with all these companies but we have the advantage of making the car, Apple doesn't have access to forward data about the car. We see Apple CarPlay more in the entry, not luxury segment. When somebody buys a Mercedes you want an onboard system. The key is to make it link to the entire digital world, to your mobile devices and then program it from home and so on. Again, the more you can go on autopilot, the more you'll be able to take advantage of these functions. One day, sooner or later, that will happen.

Sometimes you don't need a broad spectrum of ideas. You simply think about what the right solution is and execute it. We didn't do that five-to-10 years ago. There was a broad variety and we chose from that. Now we think about the best solution and take a good small team of talented guys and execute it. That's what we did with the GT. We couldn't design this car on paper. We had to take a few sculptures and develop it in 3D because literally, it has no lines any more, it's pure shape. It's an extreme execution of our philosophy.

Then there's Smart. We had a dated product but wanted to keep the brand alive. We paved the way with a few concepts and now we've shown the new cars. Smart is interesting because it's such a young, urban, trendy brand and we have a really cool creative team under Kai Sieber. I could see the designers designing cars for themselves and I think you can see in the final product the fun they had in the design process. We made it more grown up, but kept sympathy with its old face and added a playful interior. It's great to have those products coming to the market too.

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Gorden's cars of 2014

Concept

1. Infiniti Q80
2. Maserati Alfieri
3. Lamborghini Asterion

Production

1. Lamborghini Huracán
2. Ford F150
3. Renault Espace

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Source: Car Design News -- 06 May 2015
 
Interesting interview ......but it raises more questions than answers for me.

I wish he would elaborate on this "180-degrees different" situation from 2013.

Also, I'm really curious about his choices for "cars of 2014" .....I don't quite see how any of them relate to his design approach.

I do however agree with him on the GT being the "extreme execution" of Mercedes' new design "philosophy" (although I would argue it is more about brand identity than philosophy) .... I consider the GT to be Mercedes' best design in many years: it is a perfect blend of Classic Mercedes themes and cutting-edge design technology.
 
Also, I'm really curious about his choices for "cars of 2014" .....I don't quite see how any of them relate to his design approach.

It's just what he likes. Here's the list for 2013, with some explanations. :)


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"Out of the concepts from last year I appreciated the Cadillac Elmiraj. I saw it first at Pebble Beach and liked the proportions and execution, it's a very new approach for the Cadillac brand, a little less stealthy and more refined. I liked the Kia Provo too. It's really a designer's car, very modern and contemporary, almost like a little TT, with interesting graphics. The interior of the Renault Initiale Paris was good as well. I like the creativity of Laurens van den Acker, he understands French opulence in a very interesting way with nice details.

Gorden's top cars of 2013
Concept
1. BMW Pininfarina Gran Lusso Coupé
2. Cadillac Elmiraj
3. Kia Provo

"It was very well executed with a new solution for the BMW front end that was interesting, and simply an appealing car, which for me is almost the crucial aspect"

Production
1. Jaguar F-Type Coupé
2. Porsche 918 Spyder
3. Ferrari LaFerrari

"The F-Type's a nicely balanced car, and a sports car for Jaguar is always something special. I really appreciate the job Ian Callum is doing."

Source: Car Design News -- 09 May 2014
 

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