Heading for another dispute.


SCOTT27

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Heading for another dispute.

Does it look familiar? :eusa_doh:

The new Brilliance A3.
 

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I'd say you have a case, that is unless you try in Italy again. :D


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This is where the Japanese car companies were 20-30 years ago...
Oh no it's much further back than that... 20 to 30 years ago the Japanese were putting out far better cars into the global arena than the Chinese are now.

China is where the Koreans were 10 to 20 years ago.
 
I don't think anyone ever plagiarized others designs on the same scale as the Chinese. Even the the nascent Indian auto industry seem to be showing way more originality.
 
Oh no it's much further back than that... 20 to 30 years ago the Japanese were putting out far better cars into the global arena than the Chinese are now.

China is where the Koreans were 10 to 20 years ago.

Yeah, I might have been a few years off... but my point is, this is nothing new - in the beginning, the Japanese copied everything and skipped years and years of development. Look where they are now...
 
Yeah, I might have been a few years off... but my point is, this is nothing new - in the beginning, the Japanese copied everything and skipped years and years of development. Look where they are now...

I think there is a fundamental difference as the Japanese philosophy was to try to improve on everything they adopted. As you know, we're yet to see the Chinese trying to improve or innovate in this area.

In case you're interested, here's a fascinating article about (Soichiro) Honda: japanese business culture

A quote from the article:

Like Ford, whose first business efforts were littered with failures and false starts, Honda learmt the principles of efficient production quality the hard way. Out of 50 piston rings tested in Honda's first manufacturing venture, only three passed. Not surprisingly, the business failed.

His 1947 notion, to make motorized bicycles with two-stroke engines adapted to run on pine-root extract, was no more promising. Five years later, however, Honda came of technological age. With the Japanese market in recession, Honda invested $450,000 in German, Swiss and American machine tools, reckoning that they were the best in the world. He then 'reverse-engineered' the European bikes he was copying - taking them apart to see how they were made: and discovering that their best was simply not good enough.


European manufacturers believed it was impossible to run motorcycle engines at 15,000 rpm, with even faster bursts. Honda not only proved that you could, but also started to win Grand Prix races all over the world. Super-design went with super-efficiency in production engineering. At Honda's motorcycle plants not a single storeroom existed for parts, raw materials, or finished machines; deliveries went in at one end, and finished bikes, up to one every seven seconds, moved straight on to double-decker trucks at the other.
 
In the beginning, all they did was to make blueprints of what they could get their hands on.
 

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