Kilcrohane
Porsche Perfektionist
- correct. Essentially a 'pump and dump' operation.
Defender Frankfurt 2011: Land Rover Defender Successor (DC100 Concepts)
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The Land Rover Defender (initially introduced as the Land Rover One Ten, and in 1984 joined by the Land Rover Ninety, plus the new, extra-length Land Rover One Two Seven in 1985) is a series of British off-road cars and pickup trucks. They consistently have four-wheel drive, and were developed in the 1980s from the original Land Rover series which was launched at the Amsterdam Motor Show in April 1948.
- correct. Essentially a 'pump and dump' operation.
Kilcrohane
Porsche Perfektionist
and yet more JLR vapourware:
http://babyrr.com/forum/thread-7198.html
Tata busy clearing the decks of any real expenditure, for the last shot at getting rid through a stock flotation later this year.
Recent falls in global stock markets and Tata Motors already off 10% in last week probably again means they're stuck holding baby.
http://babyrr.com/forum/thread-7198.html
Land Rover is considering building a baby SUV. It would be sold across the world and make the brand the premium contender in a market niche that is set to rocket in popularity. - JLR in-house mag Autocar, 9th April 2013
Project is cancelled since 1 june - babyrr.com, 14th June 2013
unreported on Autocar, of course, or any other Brit auto rag.Tata busy clearing the decks of any real expenditure, for the last shot at getting rid through a stock flotation later this year.
Recent falls in global stock markets and Tata Motors already off 10% in last week probably again means they're stuck holding baby.
KiwiRob
Autotechnik Ace
Which are mostly Disco 1 & 2 models, I've rarely ever seen a new Disco out on the trails, at most you might see one towing a horse box across a field or running up a skifield access road. With the amount of new product coming out of JLR recently there doesn't appear to be a financial problem, I think there biggest problem is finding the engineers to work on them all. One of my colleagues has an uncle who retired from JLR at 65, 2 years ago, he's recently been asked if he wants to come back to work.
martinbo
Staff member
In SA we have thousands of Disco 3s and 4s being put into a broad range of off-road use over vast wilderness variations. A very popular and respected vehicle in spite of the odd dud that's cause for the reliability concerns in some quarters of the off-roading fraternity.
Rainer271
Kraftwagen König
I have not found a better suitable discussion and I was not sure if it in your sense when I would create a new one therefore I have posted it in this one:
Farewell to a Legend: Land Rover Defender Will Be Axed by Mid-Decade
Land Rover has confirmed reports that it will stop making the Defender SUV, built since 1948 with little changes. “The Defender will go out of production by the middle of the decade due to legislative reasons,” a Land Rover spokesman told Autonews Europe.
The legislative reasons may have something to do with safety and CO2 emissions, but the spokesman declined to comment. The Defender will be succeeded by an all-new vehicle, but details about it are scarce and its name is yet unknown. Land Rover doesn’t say when the replacement model will go on sale, but analysts at Bernstein Research believe it won’t go on sale earlier than 2019.
Why so late? Because of the “lack of volume and weak business case”, according to Bernstein analyst Max Warburton. The successor to the Land Rover Defender was widely expected to be influenced by the DC100 concept, shown in 2011 at the Frankfurt Motor Show.
However, Warburton says that the steel-based vehicle has been cancelled and the brand is now looking at the possibility of a more expensive aluminum vehicle that would use the current Range Rover platform. That vehicle may even break the tradition and be built in India.
Since its launch in 1948, the Defender racked up 2 million sales and helped establish Land Rover’s reputation as an off-road vehicle specialist. However, current sales are small, with only 561 Defenders delivered in Europe in the first eight months of this year.
Farewell to a Legend: Land Rover Defender Will Be Axed by Mid-Decade
Land Rover has confirmed reports that it will stop making the Defender SUV, built since 1948 with little changes. “The Defender will go out of production by the middle of the decade due to legislative reasons,” a Land Rover spokesman told Autonews Europe.
The legislative reasons may have something to do with safety and CO2 emissions, but the spokesman declined to comment. The Defender will be succeeded by an all-new vehicle, but details about it are scarce and its name is yet unknown. Land Rover doesn’t say when the replacement model will go on sale, but analysts at Bernstein Research believe it won’t go on sale earlier than 2019.
Why so late? Because of the “lack of volume and weak business case”, according to Bernstein analyst Max Warburton. The successor to the Land Rover Defender was widely expected to be influenced by the DC100 concept, shown in 2011 at the Frankfurt Motor Show.
However, Warburton says that the steel-based vehicle has been cancelled and the brand is now looking at the possibility of a more expensive aluminum vehicle that would use the current Range Rover platform. That vehicle may even break the tradition and be built in India.
Since its launch in 1948, the Defender racked up 2 million sales and helped establish Land Rover’s reputation as an off-road vehicle specialist. However, current sales are small, with only 561 Defenders delivered in Europe in the first eight months of this year.
Rainer271
Kraftwagen König
Next-gen Land Rover Defender to receive pick-up variant in 2017
Five- and seven-seat versions due in 2016
Land Rover design chief Gerry McGovern told WhatCar a pick-up version of the next-gen Defender could go on sale as early as 2017.
The next generation of the Defender is planned to reach dealerships in 2016 when the five- and seven-seat versions will be introduced. The duo will be followed by a more utilitarian pick-up version which will still be a "premium" product, according to design boss Gerry McGovern. He added the car will be created by following the same recipe used by Volkswagen for the Amarok so it won't have a stripped-out configuration.
Various rumors are indicating the 2017 Land Rover Defender pick-up is going to feature a five-seater crew-cab layout and will be offered as standard with permanent four-wheel drive. In addition, the model is tipped to have one of the best all-terrain abilities in this segment.
Next-gen Land Rover Defender to receive pick-up variant in 2017
Five- and seven-seat versions due in 2016
Land Rover design chief Gerry McGovern told WhatCar a pick-up version of the next-gen Defender could go on sale as early as 2017.
The next generation of the Defender is planned to reach dealerships in 2016 when the five- and seven-seat versions will be introduced. The duo will be followed by a more utilitarian pick-up version which will still be a "premium" product, according to design boss Gerry McGovern. He added the car will be created by following the same recipe used by Volkswagen for the Amarok so it won't have a stripped-out configuration.
Various rumors are indicating the 2017 Land Rover Defender pick-up is going to feature a five-seater crew-cab layout and will be offered as standard with permanent four-wheel drive. In addition, the model is tipped to have one of the best all-terrain abilities in this segment.
Next-gen Land Rover Defender to receive pick-up variant in 2017
Rainer271
Kraftwagen König
New Land Rover Defender’s Design Reportedly Finalized
The styling of the upcoming Land Rover Defender, one of the most important launches for the British automaker in recent years, has been reportedly signed off.
DC100 and DC100 Sport concept vehicles shown in 2011. The design of the production model reportedly retains the simplicity of the concepts but is more adventurous.
The DC concepts were released with the specific intention of testing customers’ reactions about a future Defender, Land Rover’s oldest and most iconic model, and sparked controversy and debate among Land Rover traditionalists all over the world.
While the new Defender will be different from the DC100 studies (pictured), Land Rover says it won’t be a direct replacement for thecurrent Defender either, which is scheduled to end production in late 2015. Executives are currently discussing what launch date would be better for the new Defender.
They are also debating the opportunity of Land Rover building a concept car that would preview the production model and give the management an idea about how the public would receive it. According to industry experts, the new Land Rover Defender would have to generate annual sales of more than 50,000 units in order to be profitable for the company.
Story references: Autocar
The styling of the upcoming Land Rover Defender, one of the most important launches for the British automaker in recent years, has been reportedly signed off.
DC100 and DC100 Sport concept vehicles shown in 2011. The design of the production model reportedly retains the simplicity of the concepts but is more adventurous.
The DC concepts were released with the specific intention of testing customers’ reactions about a future Defender, Land Rover’s oldest and most iconic model, and sparked controversy and debate among Land Rover traditionalists all over the world.
While the new Defender will be different from the DC100 studies (pictured), Land Rover says it won’t be a direct replacement for thecurrent Defender either, which is scheduled to end production in late 2015. Executives are currently discussing what launch date would be better for the new Defender.
They are also debating the opportunity of Land Rover building a concept car that would preview the production model and give the management an idea about how the public would receive it. According to industry experts, the new Land Rover Defender would have to generate annual sales of more than 50,000 units in order to be profitable for the company.
Story references: Autocar
Rainer271
Kraftwagen König
Next generation Defender coming 2016, will be the most capable Land Rover ever
Land Rover DC100 Defender Concept
To be substantially lighter
British media is reporting the next generation Land Rover Defender will go into production in the summer of 2016.
Land Rover's plan to overhaul its lineup has already started with the Discovery Sport and now focus is being shifted towards a replacement for the aging Defender. The company's design director Gerry McGovern has already said it "will have to wash its face" and "will be more desirable to look at" while having a "distinctive silhouette" without looking "overly functional."
Now, Autocar is saying the design has been signed off and according to Jaguar Land Rover group marketing director the next-gen Defender will have the biggest "breadth of capability" of any Land Rover so far. It will allegedly make use of an aluminum monocoque with a more substantial aluminum superstructure to make the Defender as stiff as possible while being substantially lighter.
Promising to provide "premium durability", the next-gen Defender will be equipped with four-cylinder Ingenium gasoline and diesel engines as well as by a range of V6 motors working with eight- or nine-speed automatic transmissions whereas the availability of a manual gearbox is unknown at this moment.
The new Land Rover Defender is expected to enter production in the summer of 2016, around the same time when another old school off-roader is due to be overhauled, the Mercedes-Benz G-Class.
Source: autocar.co.uk
Land Rover DC100 Defender Concept
To be substantially lighter
British media is reporting the next generation Land Rover Defender will go into production in the summer of 2016.
Land Rover's plan to overhaul its lineup has already started with the Discovery Sport and now focus is being shifted towards a replacement for the aging Defender. The company's design director Gerry McGovern has already said it "will have to wash its face" and "will be more desirable to look at" while having a "distinctive silhouette" without looking "overly functional."
Now, Autocar is saying the design has been signed off and according to Jaguar Land Rover group marketing director the next-gen Defender will have the biggest "breadth of capability" of any Land Rover so far. It will allegedly make use of an aluminum monocoque with a more substantial aluminum superstructure to make the Defender as stiff as possible while being substantially lighter.
Promising to provide "premium durability", the next-gen Defender will be equipped with four-cylinder Ingenium gasoline and diesel engines as well as by a range of V6 motors working with eight- or nine-speed automatic transmissions whereas the availability of a manual gearbox is unknown at this moment.
The new Land Rover Defender is expected to enter production in the summer of 2016, around the same time when another old school off-roader is due to be overhauled, the Mercedes-Benz G-Class.
Source: autocar.co.uk
Rainer271
Kraftwagen König
Rendering – Next generation Land Rover Defender launching in 2016
A concept car is planned next year to preview its looks.
Autocar UK has rendered these images that provide a possible look at the next generation Land Rover Defender that will come in 2016.
The publication says that the design of the new Defender, which will be the cheapest member in the family, has been signed off, and that a concept car is being planned for one of the major motorshows (Geneva, New York or Frankfurt) next year.
According to company officials, the new Defender will be the most capable Land Rover ever made, and it will survive the harshest of conditions. Underpinning the SUV could be a version of the new aluminium monocoque platform, though there aren’t any confirmed reports to suggest so.
Providing motivation for the Defender will be JLR’s new family of Ingenium four-cylinder petrol and diesel engines, as well as V6 motors. The Defender, according to this report, will come with 8- and 9-speed automatic transmissions, as a manual gearbox may not be offered.
Terming the new Defender as ‘premium durability’, Land Rover’s design team is aiming for a cabin that will be more upmarket and better than the Toyota Land Cruiser’s. An earlier report stated how Defender owners liked the concept of hosing down the interior of the SUV, and it was such aspects that are expected from the new generation model too.
2017 Land Rover Defender new rendering
A concept car is planned next year to preview its looks.
Autocar UK has rendered these images that provide a possible look at the next generation Land Rover Defender that will come in 2016.
The publication says that the design of the new Defender, which will be the cheapest member in the family, has been signed off, and that a concept car is being planned for one of the major motorshows (Geneva, New York or Frankfurt) next year.
According to company officials, the new Defender will be the most capable Land Rover ever made, and it will survive the harshest of conditions. Underpinning the SUV could be a version of the new aluminium monocoque platform, though there aren’t any confirmed reports to suggest so.
Providing motivation for the Defender will be JLR’s new family of Ingenium four-cylinder petrol and diesel engines, as well as V6 motors. The Defender, according to this report, will come with 8- and 9-speed automatic transmissions, as a manual gearbox may not be offered.
Terming the new Defender as ‘premium durability’, Land Rover’s design team is aiming for a cabin that will be more upmarket and better than the Toyota Land Cruiser’s. An earlier report stated how Defender owners liked the concept of hosing down the interior of the SUV, and it was such aspects that are expected from the new generation model too.
2017 Land Rover Defender new rendering
Rainer271
Kraftwagen König
Land Rover could build next generation Defender in Eastern Europe
Land Rover DC100 Defender Concept
Hungary or Poland
According to a report issued by Financial Times, the next generation Defender will be built by Land Rover at a factory located in Easter Europe.
While the outgoing model is put together in Solihull, UK, it seems the successor will be manufactured either in Hungary or Poland. If the former turns out to be true, the assembly plant will be established near Gyor where Land Rover could take advantage of the supplier base established by Audi as this is the place where they produce the TT and its 4-cylinder engine. As for the other location, there's no word about the exact region in Poland where Land Rover could set a new factory.
We remind you Land Rover is also considering the prospects of keeping the current Defender alive by moving production somewhere else where the model would be built for non-European countries. One possible solution is to make the car in India taking into account Jaguar Land Rover is a subsidiary of Tata Motors. Building it in India would lower production costs and the company could also take advantage of the high labor potential.
Source: Financial Times
Land Rover DC100 Defender Concept
Hungary or Poland
According to a report issued by Financial Times, the next generation Defender will be built by Land Rover at a factory located in Easter Europe.
While the outgoing model is put together in Solihull, UK, it seems the successor will be manufactured either in Hungary or Poland. If the former turns out to be true, the assembly plant will be established near Gyor where Land Rover could take advantage of the supplier base established by Audi as this is the place where they produce the TT and its 4-cylinder engine. As for the other location, there's no word about the exact region in Poland where Land Rover could set a new factory.
We remind you Land Rover is also considering the prospects of keeping the current Defender alive by moving production somewhere else where the model would be built for non-European countries. One possible solution is to make the car in India taking into account Jaguar Land Rover is a subsidiary of Tata Motors. Building it in India would lower production costs and the company could also take advantage of the high labor potential.
Source: Financial Times
DjordjeC63
Vorsprung Visionary
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