December Update. BMW 1er M Coupe...Now, I believe...


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December Update

I know I have forgotten about this the past couple of months , not intentionally but work has gotten in the way to which you now reap the rewards. With my official vacation time starting from today I will cover your loss with an article each day....
Merry Christmas.

BMW 1 Series M Coupe...... Now,I believe....

When you look at the 1M Coupe you see actually a very outstanding car initially from the original proposal. Whilst it is true that the budget given to develop this car is actually a tiny fraction of M's Super Sedan the M5's massive budget.
For the amount of money and time they had for the 1M Coupe they have pulled off a materstroke.

Going into initial proposals you have blank sheet of paper and split into two colulms , one for what you expect for an M car , The other in what to do to make it a great M car.
At the very beginning the proposal involved everything that makes a typical BMW M Coupe. Unfortunately everything that makes a great BMW M Coupe was not attainable due to the low budget.

BMW did not want to fully commit seeing as the car has a relatively short production window. At first not everyone was convinced but now everybody is a believer.

Look at this car now and look at it closely. Because it is what is attainable ,when you have limited resources to work with.
It is also the appetizer , given the response to the car when it was undergoing development. The next generation 1er M Coupe or M2? has been given a much larger development budget so next time round , there is more freedom to progress ideas that could not be attained this time around, because of cost within the next car.

The next 1M (M2 - because BMW are looking at seperating the 1er family especially with the sporty variants such as Roadster , Coupe and Cabrio apart from the 1er expansion with 1er concepts such as GT , F.A.S.T. , CST.)

Will see a more direct response from M Division for more sporting concepts especially for the 1M successor and the next M3. BMW believe that the GTS has proved that there is a market for such concepts in a similar progression as the Porsche 911. Although BMW's would be more straightforward with familiar signatures with the standard car followed by a more track co-ordinated and lightweight special.

Many feel that the M Division has become to focused with luxury and these additional 1M and M3's will set the bar for more focused compact and premium entry sports cars aswell as their standard luxury siblings.
The M5 will remain as the perfect synthesis between luxury and performance.

The new engines that will feature for the next 1M and M3 are already in development with the 1er resorting to a four cylinder and the M3 returning to six cylinders. What next for the 1M coupe leaves a few open possibilites.
BMW reckon a Cabrio edition would end E88 production although officially denied , unofficially they have built prototypes which if BMW sell every single unit of the Coupe and Cabrio they get back their return and then some.
The issue of course is with the M3 which will end production in mid-late 2012 leaving BMW without a competitor in the Premium Entry sports car class , which will feature the Audi RS5 and Mercedes-Benz C-Coupe AMG discussion has resorted to considering a fixed roof Z4M or a X3M using the engine featured from the 1M Coupe , but not the M3 - The V8 will die with the M3.
 
The issue of course is with the M3 which will end production in mid-late 2012 leaving BMW without a competitor in the Premium Entry sports car class , which will feature the Audi RS5 and Mercedes-Benz C-Coupe AMG discussion has resorted to considering a fixed roof Z4M or a X3M using the engine featured from the 1M Coupe , but not the M3 - The V8 will die with the M3.


Thanks for the info. One thing though. I'm baffled by this comment. How can M seriously be considering releasing an X3M as a competitor to the RS5 and C-Coupe AMG? It doesn't make any sense.

Surely a Z4 with the engine from the 1M Coupe has been released already. It's called the Z4 35iS. :t-hands: How does slapping an M badge on it achieve anything other than milking the M brand some more?
 
Thanks for the info. One thing though. I'm baffled by this comment. How can M seriously be considering releasing an X3M as a competitor to the RS5 and C-Coupe AMG? It doesn't make any sense.

Surely a Z4 with the engine from the 1M Coupe has been released already. It's called the Z4 35iS. :t-hands: How does slapping an M badge on it achieve anything other than milking the M brand some more?

Hi Betty,

these are very valid objections ;) .... I think Scott should have expressed it differently:
"Because BMW has - for some time - no contender in the M3 league - ///M should attract attention with different car concepts in the meantime"

For sure: Neither Z4 nor X3 based ///M cars are replacements in the RS5/M3 league....
.... BUT both car platforms could deliver quite attractive ///M vehicles:
  • X3 based with a dry weight of 1850 kg but with M specific chassis suspension and 400+ hp/500+ nm and torque vectoring should be capable of some special driving excitement.
  • Z4 with Hardtop and 1M engine pushed to 400hp (which should be possible without great costs/effort) should be not only a strong contender to Audi TT-RS and Cayman S but rather a winner ....
But I have to admit: Z4 ///M with fixed/light hardtop should be rather equiped with the S65 - it would then be the street version of the GT3 class of BMW Motorsport Z4 ... and it would certainly rock :D
 
The next 1M (M2 - because BMW are looking at seperating the 1er family especially with the sporty variants such as Roadster , Coupe and Cabrio apart from the 1er expansion with 1er concepts such as GT , F.A.S.T. , CST.)

Well that explains the entire dilemma regarding the naming of this vehicle. Seems like they don't have plans to continue with the 1M Coupe name, so it's more of an ad-hoc, temporary model.

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Good point by Betty.. the Z4 already features the N54 engine, so what more could BMW/M do to differentiate a possible Z4M? I imagine all other technical aspects will be improved.
Unless of course the engine is tuned to produce more power.....there was that document showing a significantly tuned-up version of the N54 motor...maybe that's being earmarked for the Z4 and/or X3M ... because when you think about that, the output of the engine in the 1M is NO match for the RS5 or the whatever AMG will give the C-Coupe!
 
SCOTT, will the downgrade of the 1M for the next gen significate a lost in power?. Which figures can we expect?. 270-280 hp?.

Also, is the M variant of the new 1er is a 4-cylinder, will we see 6-cylinder F20 and F22 1ers?.
 
SCOTT, will the downgrade of the 1M for the next gen significate a lost in power?. Which figures can we expect?. 270-280 hp?.

Also, is the M variant of the new 1er is a 4-cylinder, will we see 6-cylinder F20 and F22 1ers?.

The base N20 (4 cyl Turbo) that will be introduced with be upcoming F20 is already good for 270hp - without special treatment from the ///M department... so I think an S20 (or whatever the name will be) should have considerable more power (320-350hp). In conjunction with the speculated lower weight of the upcoming 1M or M2 this should lead to at least comparable performance numbers compared to the current 1M (combined with lower emissions)
 
So the current M3 would be the last of the NA engine based ///M car, since M is moving to all turbo engines.
I see the current M3 as collector's model. :usa7uh:
 

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