CAR UK - Porsche 717 SPECULATED: 2019’s battery-powered Tesla rival

[JHF]

► Electric rival to Merc CLS, Tesla
► Four-door body, battery power
► 300-mile range, four-wheel drive

Porsche is busy preparing a battery-powered rival to the successful all-electric Tesla Model S - and CAR has details of this project, provisionally badged the Porsche 717.

It’s being developed on the Volkswagen group’s latest MSB architecture under development for the Panamera Mk2 and the next Bentley Continental.

If all goes according to plan, we can expect a sporty four-door, four-seater with clear 911 overtones, wrapped in a more compact footprint than a Panamera’s. Our artist’s impression above shows the kind of direction being explored by Porsche’s design department, according to our sources. Sounds like the 911 cookie cutter hasn’t run out yet…

Porsche 717: a Tesla fighter from Stuttgart
The sports car brand already offers two plug-in hybrid electric vehicles (PHEVs): one based on the facelifted Cayenne SUVand the other one on the Panamera. On an even loftier level, there is of course the now-sold-out limited-edition 918 hypercar. The logical next step therefore is a Porsche battery-electric vehicle, or BEV.

Now that the company is part of VW, it is no longer able to go and develop such new projects solo, so the power of the group is being flexed to make the Porsche 717 leap from feasibility study to factory floor.

Ground hugging and emphatically dynamic in appearance, the car that is rumoured to be badged 717 is definitely not an SUV or a crossover, CAR hears.

The battery tech underpinning the electric Porsche
While the flat-bottom Tesla features a long and wide monolithic battery pack which double-up as floorpan and structural reinforcement, the lower H-point and the sports car stance postulated by Porsche would call for a so-called topologic battery installation.

Instead of a single, square-mattress-shaped energy cell which is relatively easy to cool and to connect, the battery arrangement proposed for the 717 looks more like a mountain range with the centre tunnel acting as peak ridge, with a pair of tall bulkhead walls and smaller agglomerations in the sills, the footwell and the overhangs.

In total, a reported 108 battery pouches need to be accommodated by the body-in-white. All 717 models will feature 4wd, four-wheel torque vectoring and four-wheel steering. As a rule, there is one electric motor per axle which will either be steel-sprung or feature an electrically-controlled air suspension system.

When is the Porsche 717 going to be on sale?
It is hard to judge whether Porsche’s provisional launch date of early 2019 is realistic or wishful thinking. The same applies to the engineering concept which, according to one insider, is set to provide three different e-power stages rated at 400, 500 and 600bhp, reflecting the choice of power outputs available in the Model S. The average driving range target is in excess of 300 miles.

Together with the US specialist supplier Quantumspace, Porsche and sister brands VW and Audi are developing a new induction charge process designed to match the Tesla principle in duration and to beat it in convenience.

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/spy-sh...7-revealed-2019s-battery-powered-tesla-rival/

 

[martinbo]

Oh for f##k sake. Nothing has been "revealed" here.

I'm going to edit the title of this thread.

 

[klier]

That chop would be a nice base for the Panamera. But the Panamera is going to be as ugly as ever, again.

 

[Deleted member 25]

That chop would be a nice base for the Panamera. But the Panamera is going to be as ugly as ever, again.

Not if it end up looking like this.

 

[Rainer271]

Porsche working on electric and fuel cell models
EV could be the Pajun
Volkswagen development chief Ulrich Hackenberg revealed a slideshow during a presentation regarding VAG's upcoming alternatively-powered models.

According to the attached slideshow, Porsche will initially launch a BEV (battery electric vehicle) which will then be followed by a FCEV (fuel cell electric vehicle). Details about the two models are unavailable at this moment, but the first one could take the shape of the long rumored baby Panamera (previously known as Pajun). It is codenamed “717” and could ride on the MSB platform with a four-door layout and 911-inspired styling.

Allegedly scheduled to come out in 2019, the Porsche BEV is expected to get two electric motors providing a combined output of 400 bhp (298 kW), 500 bhp (372 kW) and 600 bhp (447 kW). It could also come with a torque vectoring AWD system as well as with support for inductive charging. Porsche will probably position their electric vehicle as a competitor for the Tesla Model S.

As seen in the attached slideshow, Audi and Volkswagen will also launch FCEVs, but a timetable as to when this will actually happen is not available.

http://www.worldcarfans.com/115031290390/porsche-working-on-electric-and-fuel-cell-models

 

[kingjr9000]

Porsche EV & FCV come into focus

Porsche Panamera Sport Turismo Concept

New light is being shed on Porsche's upcoming electric and hydrogen vehicle as Autocar has uncovered several patents that suggest the models will be based on a modified version of the MSB platform.

Tentatively known as the eMSB platform, the architecture which feature a number of modifications so it can accommodate both electric and hydrogen powertrains. The platform will also be stiffer and provide more protection for the battery and hydrogen fuel tanks.

The electric version will reportedly be called the 718 and have at least 420 bhp as well as an electric only range in excess of 265 miles (426 km). It will reportedly be launched in late 2017 or early 2018 and feature styling similar to the upcoming Pajun (Panamera Junior). However, we can expect several tweaks including unique fascias as well as a modified instrument cluster.

The hydrogen variant is expected to be launched shortly after the electric model and could adopt the 818 moniker.

While nothing is official both models are expected to use two rear-mounted electric motors with a torque vectoring system.

 

[Jayden]

New Panamera definitely looks better than the old one. 426 km on electic engine also sounds good but I think this number will be smaller on practice.