3 Series (F30) 3er (F30) and X3 Win Best in Segment in What Car? 2012

[Mr Robert]

That is another point. If they say you can't order until february, in my book, that means you can't buy it. But I'd still say that when something is offered for sale, it is on sale. That could, on the other hand, be me being rather technical.

 

[Zafiro]

Technically should Whatcar have placed the F30 1st at all because I am not entirely sure it has been tested on UK roads yet in a comparison test.

Video I posted above is from UK? looking at the plates its not a german car.
Another thing, these carjournalists have been driving E90, C-class and A4 for many years now and should now the differences by now?

Heck, even members here claim that F30 is the best car in the segment and they haven't even driven it

 

[Betty Swollocks]

I'll give it to you. Your point has a stronger case.

Thank you.

That is another point. If they say you can't order until february, in my book, that means you can't buy it. But I'd still say that when something is offered for sale, it is on sale. That could, on the other hand, be me being rather technical.

Ordering and speccing is one thing. Buying is a different matter entirely. If you were correct then BMW wouldn't be announcing the on-sale date as 11th February.

When BMW dealers talk about sales figures and meeting their quarter targets, they don't count orders, they count actual sales. i.e. delivering actual vehicles to customers.

 

[Mr Robert]

As I said, I was probably being rather technical, not taking in account the actual sales model and base for statistics. However, at least here, a sale takes place when something is ordered (or rather when the buyer assumes a responisibility to pay), not when it is delivered or paid.

Edit: But the main issue I have with "awards" like this is the timing. How on earth can they know what cars will be the best of 2012?

 

[Deckhook]

Video I posted above is from UK? looking at the plates its not a german car.
Another thing, these carjournalists have been driving E90, C-class and A4 for many years now and should now the differences by now?

Heck, even members here claim that F30 is the best car in the segment and they haven't even driven it

I didn't know it had been tested in the UK which magazine was it? Also was this an individual roadtest (first impressions or full test) or was it a proper comparison test against rivals?

Point being that until it's properly compared against it's rivals it's only a guesstimate as to whether it's actually that much better, though in all honesty I will be surprised if it doesn't blow the rest out of the water.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

Autocar did a comparison with the C Class before Christmas, but it wasn't a British registered model and I don't think it was on British roads.

 

[Zafiro]

I didn't know it had been tested in the UK which magazine was it? Also was this an individual roadtest (first impressions or full test) or was it a proper comparison test against rivals?

Point being that until it's properly compared against it's rivals it's only a guesstimate as to whether it's actually that much better, though in all honesty I will be surprised if it doesn't blow the rest out of the water.

Check the video and you get the answer from WhatCar why it was awarded. Considering that E90 still win most of the tests one can assume the new 3er will kick ass even more as I said, they driven the competitiors for years now and should know how they compare.

I think you guys are overreacting ,these awards mean nothing.

 

[donkeykong]

Check the video and you get the answer from WhatCar why it was awarded. Considering that E90 still win most of the tests one can assume the new 3er will kick ass even more as I said, they driven the competitiors for years now and should know how they compare.

I think you guys are overreacting ,these awards mean nothing.

I can't wait for the S4,and 335i shoot out.

 

[Gianclaudio]

Edit: But the main issue I have with "awards" like this is the timing. How on earth can they know what cars will be the best of 2012?

That's my point!