718 Boxster/Cayman (982) [Renders] 2023 Porsche 718 models are BEVs

[tristatez28lt1]

We know that Porsche is developing the new Macan as an electric car, the 718 models are to follow in 2023. Here's the scoop:

 

[donkeykong]

when it finally does go electric, will that spell doom for 718 GT4?

 

[martinbo]

Me personally - I don't think that the next generation 718 will be electric-only. I'm guessing that it'll be both.

 

[bimmer6]

Me personally - I don't think that the next generation 718 will be electric-only. I'm guessing that it'll be both.

Even for the Macan, which sells much more than the 718, Porsche is not developing two different versions so I can't see them having two different platforms for the 718.

 

[martinbo]

Even for the Macan, which sells much more than the 718, Porsche is not developing two different versions so I can't see them having two different platforms for the 718.

Well, we just don't know enough regarding the modularity of these future platforms. I surmise that one platform will be developed to accommodate both ICE and electrical drive trains - it's all just down to packaging.

 

[Deleted member 52969]

what is the rear side vent cooling?

 

[kingjr9000]

Farewell Porsche

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

Welcome Porsche

 

[Sunny]

I would love a smaller cheaper ev sports car from Porsche (or anyone for that matter) with emphasis on handling. Something for sub $90k, sub 500hp , sub 4000 lbs. I don't need 600hp or sub 3 sec acceleration. Essentially a "Model 3 performance" from Porsche. And I also hope they don't make it a 2 seater for the sake of it. Besides just pure form there is no reason for an EV sports car to be a strict 2 seater.

 

[Centurion]

I would love a smaller cheaper ev sports car from Porsche (or anyone for that matter) with emphasis on handling. Something for sub $90k, sub 500hp , sub 4000 lbs. I don't need 600hp or sub 3 sec acceleration. Essentially a "Model 3 performance" from Porsche. And I also hope they don't make it a 2 seater for the sake of it. Besides just pure form there is n...

The number of seats makes a difference to how the car will handle. If it’s designed to carry four adults and luggage then it will be over sprung and damped if there is rarely more than one person in the car.

What I am super curious about is the shape that a two seater BEV Porsche would take. Will it be shaped like a front engined GT, Cayman or 911?

 

[Sunny]

The number of seats makes a difference to how the car will handle. If it’s designed to carry four adults and luggage then it will be over sprung and damped if there is rarely more than one person in the car.

So like almost every other street sports car then that has 2/4 seats but usually only has the driver?

We are not talking race cars here, no need to ekk out the last ounce of performance. Street cars are tuned to perform a wide range of conditions.

 

[Akrapovicowns]

Interesting ideas regarding the next gen “718s”. Was just looking for info and came across those, didn’t see them posted before.
It seems Porsche is still deciding which direction to go with them, as weight Is playing a big part as this is a sports car, unlike the taycan and next Macan.

 

[Centurion]

The Tycan is the gateway drug for BEV Porsche. Before you know it, owners will ask Porsche for a two-seater electric car. A 718 Cayman replacement will be perfect given that some Porsche buyers have already climatised to a non-6pot. Some people like the turbo charged 4pot 718 models because they are good daily drivers.

 

[Bridster]

Ugh. So pointless. Loads of extra weight, no engine noise, no character, no gear change. The new "sportscar"...

 

[Rolf]

An electric Boxster or Cayman is a real anti climax for a current benchmark sports car. It will be less of a drivers car and will be 1700 to 1800kg in weight with no engine sound, WTF no ways

 

[Akrapovicowns]

Lets be real..not even Porsche probably likes the idea, obviously there are plenty of enthusiasts working there. Either by market demand, restrictions, and performance benefits that could be achieved with such technology given the right conditions for such implementation, we will most likely see it happening.

What we need to look into, are the options that could be given to us. I think it is acceptable by todays standards to have both the hybrid and the full electric version, which I bet its what we are looking into here..doubt they'll turn this into a full electric car only. Heck, even the Macan seems to be keeping an ICE version in the next gen.

 

[Bridster]

Ugh. So pointless. Loads of extra weight, no engine noise, no character, no gear change. The new "sportscar"...

Not to mention, the only reason BEVs get a usable range is because you use so little power in daily driving. Put the foot down, though, and the range disappears before your eyes. It's literally impossible to drive an electric car hard without wasting your time at charging stations.

Everything the electric car is, is diametrically opposed to what a sportscar should be. Everything. It's the opposite personified. Even with the whole world going electric, sportscars like the Cayman should be the very last cars that go that route.

The funny thing (in some sort of dark, macabre way) is that making sportscar and supercars electric does literally nothing for the environment. They exist in such a low numbers and at the same time are driven so little that their impact is absolute negligible compared to regular mass produced daily drivers. But even passanger cars as a whole only account for about 10% of CO2 emissions (in EU). Making sportscars and supercars electric wouldn't lower this number by 0.01% even if EVs were actually zero emission. However, looking at lifetime emissions, EVs are currently barely better than ICE cars - and whether they end up better depends mostly on how cleanly the electric power is generated. In some states, EVs are currently actually worse than ICE cars. Obviously, there is quite a debate about the exact numbers, but the point is, making sportscars and supercars electric helps nothing. It just makes them shit. Make the daily drivers electric, leave the enthusiast cars alone.

 

[Centurion]

An electric Boxster or Cayman is a real anti climax for a current benchmark sports car. It will be less of a drivers car and will be 1700 to 1800kg in weight with no engine sound, WTF no ways

For the affluent or rich, a BEV porsxhe wouldn't be their only car. They would own one along a noisy sports car of their choice.

If they run a business or are self employed, it could be cheaper to lease a BEV Cayman than a Golf R.

 

[SNB]

If anyone can do it right, it’s Porsche. I have faith in their engineers and I do believe it’s a company still run by enthusiasts.

 

[Levi68]

Let's be real, other than the GMT50, every supercar above 1400 kg is a heavy pig, when M3 E90 with 4 doors, 4 seats, trunk, base 911 performance weighs 1600kg.

Tesla was mocked forbeing heavy as a tank, the Taycan is even heavier, yet it is one if not the best performing BEV for sale, and as fast if not faster than many comparables of it (M5, AMG GT4, etc...).

In a world of 2.500 kg heavy BEVs, even those low powered mainstream CUEVs, a 1.700 kg 2 seat electric sportscar will be featherweight. It will make all sense, especially for where the cars are used, namely urban areas. Without ICE, luggage space can be increased significantly, while maintaining the tiny 4m footprint practical in urban spaces. Urban spaces are boring to drive in, sports bev can make it fun.