F1 2009 F1 Fiasco: Teams vs FIA [Official: No Breakaway Series]

[bmer]

Saturday, May 2nd 2009, 09:56 GMT
By Edd Straw

FIA president Max Mosley has insisted that Formula 1 could live without Ferrari in response to Luca di Montezemolo's criticism of the budget cap regulations.

The Ferrari chairman hit out at the introduction of the budget cap in a letter to the FIA revealed by AUTOSPORT yesterday.

In the letter di Montezemolo said the budget cap could undermine the credibility of the sport and be difficult to implement. He suggested that "all aspects of the new regulations should be carefully reviewed."

But Mosley insists that the £40 million budget cap is vital for the health of F1, saying that if Ferrari was to be lost to F1 it would simply be "sad". He added that he expects it to be difficult for the team to justify its opposition to the budget cap to the Ferrari board given the amount of money it could save.

"The sport could survive without Ferrari," Mosley told the Financial Times. "It would be very sad to lose Ferrari. It is the Italian national team.

"I hope and think that when a team goes to its board and says, 'I want to go to war with the FIA, because I want to be able to spend £100m more than the FIA want me to spend,' the board will say, 'Why can't you spend £40m if the other teams can do it?'"

Mosley emphasised that the FIA would not back away from the budget cap and that it is vital for the financial health of F1 in both the long and short term.

Full news article: autosport.com - F1 News: Mosley: F1 could survive without Ferrari

 

[LaArtist]

yes it can..

 

[coolraoul]

No it can't.

Without Ferrari, Macca would be the only big boy and it's never good.

Even with the budget cap (removing the big advantage of Macca, its enormous budget), it would need time for others to catch up and it would render the show uninteresting for at least a pair of years.

And without all the Tifosi, F1 simply wouldn't be like it was.

I think the FIA should act very carefully by now. Daimler threatened to retire and its Board seems less interested by the F1 in those times orf crisis; if now Ferrari too is reconsidereing the question...

The FIA is loosing the edge, it's now the big teams who are threatening to leave, it was the other way around few months ago.

The teams already tried to build their own championship in the past, so the FIA better beware...

The crazy two should really retire now.

 

[Tarek]

It can but will be super dull and boring.

 

[Monster]

Don't think either will survive without each other.

 

[NarutoRamen]

Sure, F1 can live without Ferrari. Just like a person can live without a leg.

 

[siko]

I have a better and more realistic statement to make:

Siko: F1 could survive without Max Mosley


... or better yet

Siko: F1 would be better off without Max Mosley

 

[Gullwing]

I have a better and more realistic statement to make:

Siko: F1 could survive without Max Mosley


... or better yet

Siko: F1 would be better off without Max Mosley, Bernie, Charlie

 

[NarutoRamen]

Agree with you wholeheartedly Siko.

 

[Remy Zero]

Max and Bernie are both greedy pigs and should let F1 be just like the old times.

 

[Imhotep Evil]

F1 : Red Bull Racing joins Toyota in 2010 Formula 1 entry boycott

F1 : Red Bull Racing joins Toyota in 2010 Formula 1 entry boycott



Red Bull has followed Toyota in declaring that it will not enter next year's Formula One World Championship under the current regulations.

Toyota's team President John Howett made the threat this weekend in Barcelona, as other teams including Ferrari and BMW also openly baulk at the governance of the sport by Max Mosley and his plans for voluntary budget caps.

"Conditions at the moment are not so, that we would enter a team for next year," Red Bull team owner Dietrich Mateschitz, at the Spanish Grand Prix this weekend, said in an interview that will be published by Austria's Salzburger Nachrichten newspaper on Monday.

The billionaire suggested that the other "manufacturer teams" will also not take part. "Of the teams now, only two or three will remain," Mateschitz added.

The FIA's deadline for 2010 entries is May 29.

McLaren team boss Martin Whitmarsh said after a two hour meeting of the FOTA teams on Sunday that public threats about not meeting the deadline are "not helpful".

However, it is expected that, depending on the outcome of a meeting with Mosley in London next week, FOTA could announce a sweeping boycott of the May 29 deadline.


http://www.f1sa.com/index.php?option=com_c...&Itemid=219

 

[siko]

Viva la Revolucion!

 

[Centurion]

Viva la Revolucion!

I would say the same but Red Bull and Toyota are toothless. For a boycott to work, it needs to have Mclaren and Ferrari behind it or else FIA won't go down on their knees begging.

 

[NarutoRamen]

I would say the same but Red Bull and Toyota are toothless. For a boycott to work, it needs to have Mclaren and Ferrari behind it or else FIA won't go down on their knees begging.

One at a time Luw, one at a time.

 

[Gullwing]

One at a time Luw, one at a time.

Or six next week

 

[NarutoRamen]

Or six next week

hopefully.

 

[Imhotep Evil]

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^ For once I agree with Briatore:



"Whoever has 20 or 25 million Euros should not be able to operate a Formula One team," said the Italian. "If we make that possible, the brand will be worth nothing.

"It would be like seeing discount stores suddenly established on an exclusive shopping street," said Briatore, the owner of high-end clubs and fashion stores named Billionaire.


He said the situation is serious, because big names including Toyota, BMW and Red Bull have already threatened to quit over the situation.

"Without big, important names - and Ferrari is one of them - Formula One is worth much less," the 59-year-old insisted.

But he suggested that he is not completely opposed to the idea of budget capping.

"I could imagine that FOTA - not in 2010, but starting from 2011 - agrees with the FIA on a minimum sum per year, that is obligatory for all the teams," said Briatore.

"A brutal solution, that is before us at the moment, doesn't have a chance," he insisted.

 

[coolraoul]

Ferrari also threatened to quit if the budget cap is adopted.

And with the rumours of Daimler's Board not supporting the F1 engagement that much in those days, and Zetsche threatening to quit if the punishment had been too severe in the lying affair...

 

[Centurion]

>
^ For once I agree with Briatore:



"Whoever has 20 or 25 million Euros should not be able to operate a Formula One team," said the Italian. "If we make that possible, the brand will be worth nothing.

"It would be like seeing discount stores suddenly established on an exclusive shopping street," said Briatore, the owner of high-end clubs and fashion stores named Billionaire.


He said the situation is serious, because big names including Toyota, BMW and Red Bull have already threatened to quit over the situation.

"Without big, important names - and Ferrari is one of them - Formula One is worth much less," the 59-year-old insisted.

But he suggested that he is not completely opposed to the idea of budget capping.

"I could imagine that FOTA - not in 2010, but starting from 2011 - agrees with the FIA on a minimum sum per year, that is obligatory for all the teams," said Briatore.

"A brutal solution, that is before us at the moment, doesn't have a chance," he insisted.

No doubt. Those organisations with limited budgets should compete in GP2 or a more affordable formula series. F1 isn't meant to be for everyone.

 

[bmer]

Teams fail to reach agreement with FIA

Friday, May 22nd 2009, 18:23 GMT
By Jonathan Noble

Formula 1 teams failed to reach an agreement with FIA president Max Mosley about the future of the sport on Friday, despite lengthy talks that ran into the early evening.

Following a series of discussions over the course of the day, the teams met with Mosley to try and find a resolution to their unhappiness about plans for a voluntary budget cap.

However, despite talking for almost three hours no agreement was reached meaning several teams remain poised to not lodge entries for 2010 by next weeks deadline.

Although most team principals refused to comment about the situation as they left the Automobile Club de Monaco, Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo revealed that more talks were needed.

"It was a long and constructive meeting," he said. "FOTA will have another meeting tomorrow, and then there will be another meeting with Mosley.

Full article: autosport.com - F1 News: Teams fail to reach agreement with FIA