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Yes there will be one, but obviously it will hit the market 1-2 years after the debut of the cabrio. The Z4-35i will be one hell of a car which will force Porsche to significantly up it's power for the Boxster. I wonder if the M version will get the full wrath of the 420hp V8, but I guess that BMW don't want the M3 to suffer so we might just see a Tii version with 360hp or something.

Quoting Scott from old thread:

I like those wheels.

The Z4 is based on the E90 3er line, and therefore isn't a completely new car like the F01, F10 and F13 are.



Hmm, we are really not sure what BMW is going to do (if there will be a coupe version or not). Maybe they decide there will be a coupe version, but slightly different looking and named Z5 rather than Z4
But from what I can see so far, BMW will be crazy not to make a Z4 coupe. Z3 and Z4 coupe have both been great image builders, and Z4 coupe sells pretty well.

Oh, and rumors right now say 3.0 I6 TT engine AND 420 hp 4.0 V8.

New BMW Z4 Spied Again


http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080417.003/new-bmw-z4-spied-again

Looks like it will feature the bangle butt. I pray that the rear end won't look nearly as disastrous as the 7er and 6er The proportions are super nice though.

Yes, it will feature the "Bangle butt" - since it features a metal folding roof. Eg. MB SLK has similar cut lines on its rear.
But expect the lines & shapes on "B-B" to flow much more organic & softer than on eg. E65 7er or E63 6er.


Btw, the Birdie #1 reports E89 features the broken shoulder line ala CS concept. And the stylized gill ala Z3 is back. Kind a.

I hope we will still see a coupe version despite the hard roof on the convertible.

We most likely will. Just look at the E92, it comes as proper coupe eventhough there is a hardtop convertible option.

To understand that the current Z4 is radical even too much for some .
The next generation Z4 Roadster progresses the radical angle further but is also groundbreaking. Z4 Roadster will be the first performance Roadster , a BMW performance Roadster featuring "Efficient Dynamics"
To help in it's quest for greater efficiency . Construction of the new Roadster is geared towards using lighter materials from areas such as the full aluminium front end , magnesium crankcases and engine blocks and aluminium body panels. Even the folding hardtop offers a lighter steel than used in the E93 3er Cabrio.

Where the BMW Z4 Roadster will be groundbreaking is the introduction of the first BMW diesel powered Roadster. With it's adoption of BMW's highly powerful 204PS diesel engine currently winning acclaim in the BMW 1er Coupe. Using a standard powered soft-top roof to keep weight down to the bare minimum with the lightweight materials already utilised and "Efficient Dynamics" technology to deliver eco friendly driving pleasure , with substantial performance and greater efficiency.

BMW hope to see the Z4 offer best in class performance, dynamics , agility and efficiency. Even moreso the Porsche Boxster remains the benchmark here but the engineers have had their fair share of drives in the Lotus Elise models to deliver a similar type of agility and offer an individual outlook to the segment with the dynamic handling of the new Z4.Roadster.

When the Z4 appears by December you will see it's followed the 3er Coupe and Cabrio and moved up one notch. Although you did eventually see the reason why.
The BMW 1er Coupe and Cabrio.

Which is why you will see the segment below the Z4 become very creative indeed , think of the original Z3 and you can see how many with BMW miss that car's compact proportions and how the new Z4 Roadster opens the door and leaves space for the upoming BMW Z2 Roadster.

What is the broken shoulder line?

Yeap, that's exactly the idea.

This is BMW's new camo that has been developed in order to confuse photoshop experts since it distorts the lines of the bodywork significantly more that duck-tape!

BMW will be using this camo from now on in order to prevent photshops as much as possible.

The lights on the rear are very 6er-ish and the front grill is very CS-ish.

I'm sure it'll be a GREAT car!

Shoulder / character line as seen on CS concept ...







But it will be slightly different on Z4, Birdie said. The longer line (coming from front) will slope below the shorter part of the line (on the rear side) - not like on CS where the shorter part slopes below the longer one.

It's that character line which carves its way through the rear light, over the rear wheel arch and eventually breaks with the rest of the shoulder line.

Not really suprising that the new Z4 would have this design feature. What will be interesting to see is how the other lines on the Z4 interact with this broken shoulder line, because as you can see with the CS, there aren't any other dramatic lines along the side of the body, whereas with the current Z4 there are a number of flexing and sharpened creases going in very unorthodox directions (ie: not simply straight like a normal shoulder line).


Thanks Eni and Scott for the continual updates!

Just one question for either/both of you. When BMW launched the current Z4, they stated that the E65 7er would be the least dramatic of the new BMW models, the Z4 would be the most dramatic, and that the remaining BMW models would be somewhere in between these two models in terms of design flare. Will this spectrum of design flare still apply for upcoming generation of BMWs?

I really hope for something like this, but even more aggressive front, which judging by recent FEP pics will be the case. Rear looks great in these chops too and i'm sure it'll look even better.

Eni and/or Scott, could you give quick feedback on how close the following quick edit of lines and rearlight shape is?

Many creases on FEP Z4 are still fake - rubber inserts below the masking tape.

There are only two major lines: upper & lower character line.

So, the upper line (shoulder line) starts at the rear light, continues through the top of rear wheel arch, slopes down towards the side door, & ends /discontinues.
Then it starts again just behind the door handle, and slopes up towards the A-pillar, where it starts to run through the hood towards the nose, outlines the inner edge of head light cluster (the nearest edge to the grille), and ends its journey - at the lower outer corner of kidney grille.

The lower character line starts in the front bumper, continues on the side panels right behind front wheel, running to the rear wheel, and continues on the rear bumper (running through the whole length of a bumper - but above the license plate holder it creates an "arch" (although more angular one).





Yes, it will. 7er will still one of the most restrained & "classic" designs (styling wise - especially the lines - the silhouette), while the Z4 & 1er will still be "fuzzy & funky".

BUT ... mind that at the "fuzzy & funky" end of the new models are seriously considered - even more funky & fuzzy: X2 SAC, Z2 roadster & "the 0er" - the model below 1er. 0er only in the case the car wears BMW badge - still not yet decided; BMW are still dealing with a dillema whether to launch a 4th brand for a micro-car, or just make Isetta under BMW badge: "BMW Isetta". In the case of "BMW Isetta" (so, not a separate brand), BMW are playing with an idea to name their new flagship (the new 8er GT based on CS) with a name, not a number! So the very special models on the very ends of the model line will be so special - wearing names instead of numbers! I've heard "BMW Triumph" is one of the possible names for the 4dr GT.

Even through the new camo tape one can see razor sharp lines running across the car's body. Just a quick chop:

It is on cars like this the flame surface should be used the most... and of course on the 7-series the least. I bet the buyers of this type of car are alot less conservative than yours average 7-series buyer.

I think the 420 hp V8 M version of the next Z4 is the perfect car for the queen on England

^do you really think that they will give it the full 420hp?
i sure hope so..

I'm sure they are going to do it. That, plus the 3.0 TT. It'll be sweet I tell you.

^If it had the full potential of the V8 it'll be best in class hands down

I think so as well... Since the tt 3.0 engine will be in it, even maybe an uprated version, the M will not be watered down.

Talk about ultimate roadster... geez that thing will be fun to drive... not to mention expensive

Yes, but that will be in 2010/2011 when a new M3 is just 3-4 years away.

I love the Z4 and hope that BMW haven't been slacking with the design. I want to see wild lines.