S-Class W222 [Official] Mercedes-Benz S-Class (W222)

[Betty Swollocks]

According to Jesmb.de Mercedes will introduce 9G transmission this September at IAA and it will be available on S class by the end of this year.

The S-Class will receive its motor show world premiere at Frankfurt in September, so I highly doubt they would introduce the 9G at the same motor show! It would just make the car look outdated before it's even launched!

 

[941benz]

The S-Class will receive its motor show world premiere at Frankfurt in September, so I highly doubt they would introduce the 9G at the same motor show! It would just make the car look outdated before it's even launched!

So far the only Gas powered car is S550(500), so I think is could be a possibility that S400 Turbo and new 2.0 from E250 could be added to lineup with 9G. Is just my gess.

 

[Merc1]

Yeah the timing for the 9G doesn't make sense. The car goes on sale in Sept here in the U.S. and I'm sure before that in Europe so wouldn't be smart. It might debut on the C in January at Detroit and then hit the rest of the range for the 2015 model year just like the C-Class since it will be a MY 2015 car.


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[Levi68]

23 Pages???!!!

Off-topic, what model is that?

 

[Wilbur]

CLA is the car

After clearing my brain up from the first enthusiasm, i think Merc wanted to introduce even more stuff, but they hadn't enough time to develop it

I really whished for a new control system for the Comand, in particular the Touchpad from the F800 Concept, that would have been awesome. Furthermore i hoped they introduce the 9G transmission (I think the rumors of a presentation later this year make actually no sense), the "Braking Bag" , which is basically an airbag underneeth the car for braking power increase in dangerous moments (From the ESF 2009 Concept) and finally a proper HUD display. Well i think i have to wait for that till the facelift arrives

 

[Dawid21]

http://5komma6.mercedes-benz-passion.com/konigin-der-strase-neue-s-klasse/

 

[Dawid21]

http://www.motorionline.com/

 

[Dawid21]

http://www.motorionline.com/foto/mercedes-classe-s-2014-presentazione/

 

[GreyCoupe]

Top luxo sedan? Maybe; Audi has upped the category, and the 7 is due for an update.

Let's see the S Coupe...that will define the new S Klasse for me.

 

[LaArtist]

The design process at Mercedes is kind of different that the one at BMW in the sence that not (like in the case of BMW) only one designer is responsible for executing their original idea, but some designers start, other pick up and maybe someone else finishes.
The original design proposal that "started it all" if you will, is courtesy of Mr. Il-Hun Yoon, who has been referred to as the Asian gentleman in the in video. Robert Lesnik either finished the design, meaning he was responsible for the best possible transformation from the 1/4 scale model to the full scale model, or he was in charge of finishing it, supervising Mr. Yoon.
The interior designer you can see in the video is Peter Balko.

Nice to hear from you again, whats your take on the W222?

Why not just update the CLS instead of another four door coupe?

LaArtist is there a piano black option for the wood trim?

Not to my knowledge, but the verdict is still out on Designo, as they have not updated their page with the new S

 

[LaArtist]

Can someone please provide some technical aspects on the Magic body control. Any links of publications from Merc would be very helpful and thanks "La" for those amazing photos.

Enjoy

The new S-Class is the world's first car to be able to detect bumps on the road ahead. If the ROAD SURFACE SCAN detects such unevenness by means of the stereo camera, MAGIC BODY CONTROL sets up the suspension in advance to deal with the situation. This innovative suspension system is available as an option for the eight-cylinder models. Standard equipment for the new S-Class includes an enhanced version of the full air suspension system AIRMATIC with continuously adaptive damping control.

The front axle features four-link suspension. Its key characteristics include two individual links (torque strut and spring link) in the lower link plane. The transversely situated forged-aluminium spring link carries the spring strut. The anti-roll bar is connected directly on the steering knuckle, while the forward-sloping torque strut is made of forged aluminium.
A wishbone located high above the lower link plane performs further wheel location functions. This link is also made of forged aluminium, as is the steering knuckle which connects the upper and lower link planes. The fourth link is the track rod which forms part of the rack-and-pinion steering system. The transversely situated steering gear is located in front of the wheel's centre.
The arrangement and design of the wheel location components offer favourable characteristics for the axle kinematics: the kingpin inclination is close to the wheel centre. This provides for large longitudinal force leverage, thus minimising sensitivity to tyre imbalances and fluctuations in braking force.
The lower front axle components, the steering gear and the engine mounts are linked with an assembly carrier. This integral carrier, made from high-strength sheet aluminium, is directly bolted to the body.
Due to the unsurpassed wheel location qualities, the S-Class features multi-link rear suspension attached to a subframe. Consistent lightweight construction minimises the weight of the unsprung masses. Four of the five wheel-locating links are made of forged aluminium, as is the hub carrier. The spring link that carries the spring strut is made of single-ply sheet aluminium. In the standard configuration, the rear axle with air suspension features a torsion-bar stabiliser which is directly connected to the rear axle carrier.
AIRMATIC: enhanced comfort and driving dynamics
The standard-fit full air suspension system AIRMATIC with continuously adaptive damping control allows the spring travel to be maintained whatever the vehicle load by means of continuous level adjustment. The vehicle level is controlled automatically depending on the vehicle speed. It is lowered by up to 20 millimetres when the speed exceeds 120 km/h. Consequently, aerodynamic drag is lowered and, thanks to the low vehicle centre of gravity, directional stability is enhanced.
The AIRMATIC system with continuously adaptive damping control that featured on the predecessor model has been modified in many respects: new air suspension bellows with reduced breakaway torque make for even better ride comfort as they do not stiffen as much at low amplitudes and larger frequencies. The spring travel on the rear axle has been increased, thus improving absorption capacity if excitation is high. To further reduce tyre noise, the air suspension struts on the rear axle are decoupled from the body.
The lower control panel on the centre console allows the driver to raise the vehicle level by 30 millimetres on poor road surfaces or when confronted by a tricky garage entrance, for example.
Further improvements have likewise been made to the adaptive damping system. This fully automatic, electronically controlled system adjusts the shock absorbers on each wheel as required. As before, the single-tube shock absorbers are equipped with a valve each for the compression and rebound stage, while there is a new feature in the shape of continuous damping adjustment. This means that the optimum operating point can be selected every time based on various data such as acceleration, vehicle level or vehicle speed. A button on the centre console allows the driver to select a sportier setting as an alternative to the comfort-oriented default setting.
The different AIRMATIC levels at a glance:

Setting
Comfort
Sport
Higher level (manual)
+ 30 mm
+ 30 mm
Lower level (automatic)
Generally

- 10 mm
From 120 km/h
- 10 mm
- 10 mm
(in total: - 20 mm)
From 160 km/h
- 10 mm
(in total: - 20 mm)

If certain vehicle speed thresholds are exceeded or not reached, the normal vehicle level is restored automatically.







MAGIC BODY CONTROL: the world's first suspension system with "eyes"
The new S-Class is the world's first car to be able to detect bumps on the road ahead. The MAGIC BODY CONTROL suspension system available as an option for the eight-cylinder models includes ACTIVE BODY CONTROL (ABC) and the new and innovative ROAD SURFACE SCAN function.
The "eyes" for the ROAD SURFACE SCAN function are provided by a stereo camera fitted behind the windscreen, which scans the road up to 15 metres ahead of the vehicle and delivers a precise image of the road contours. Based on the camera pictures and driving status information, the control unit constantly calculates the best control strategy for overcoming unevenness such as prolonged bumps.
The vehicle can therefore adjust the damping of each individual wheel to a tauter or softer setting in advance and increase or reduce the load on the wheel by means of an active hydraulic system. The suspension is adapted to a given situation within fractions of a second, and body movement can be reduced considerably. This results in a hitherto unprecedented level of ride comfort. Because ROAD SURFACE SCAN is camera-based, it can work throughout the day if visibility is good, the road structure is suitable and even at speeds of up to 130 km/h.
In the Active Body Control system from Mercedes-Benz, the four spring struts are equipped with hydraulic cylinders (plungers) to adjust the force in each spring strut individually. This means that the system can almost completely compensate for lifting, rolling and pitching of the body. The control unit receives information on the current driving situation from various acceleration sensors and then compares these data with those from the pressure sensors in the spring struts and the level sensors on the control arms. The system then computes the control signals for the servo-hydraulic valves at the front and rear axle to ensure precisely metered oil flows.
Once oil flows into the plunger cylinders, this modifies the tracing point of the steel springs integrated into the spring struts, generating the necessary force to counteract the body movements. Thanks to a constantly available hydraulic pressure of up to 200 bar, ABC is able to stabilise the body within fractions of a second.
The ABC has undergone major modifications for the new S-Class: the wheel damping is now continuously adjustable, the spring strut response has been improved and the pump efficiency has been further enhanced. A digital interface connects the control unit and the sensors, while the fast FlexRay bus connects the control unit and the vehicle electronics. Processing power is more than double that of the previous system.
Steering: electro-mechanical Direct-Steer system and steering assistance
The new S-Class comes with an electro-mechanical Direct-Steer system as standard. As well as a more precise and also more comfortable steering experience, the steering system has a major impact on overall efficiency, since it only requires energy when the vehicle is actually being steered.
In the new steering system, the steering gear and the supporting servo-motor form a single compact unit and are mounted on an extremely rigid and low-weight integral support frame made of aluminium which is positioned in front of the wheel's centre line. The steering gear is designed as a Direct-Steer system, which means that the steering ratio becomes noticeably more direct over the steering angle. This enhances the vehicle's handling and agility substantially.
The steering assistance function can help to stabilise the vehicle. An assistance steering wheel torque is determined depending on the driving conditions, and this is set accordingly by the electric steering assistance.
The function never overrules the driver but, instead, indicates the direction in which to steer to stabilise the vehicle. In the event of oversteer, the steering assistance system prompts the driver to countersteer via the steering wheel until the vehicle has stabilised again.
If the vehicle is braked on a road surface with different friction (µ-split) on the left and right, there is a yaw impulse which turns the vehicle in the direction of the high friction. The steering assistance system prompts the driver to turn the steering wheel in the appropriate direction to compensate for the yaw caused by the different friction.
Brakes: large discs, a wealth of assistance functions
Large brake discs at the front and rear provide the technological basis for safe and reliable deceleration using the ADAPTIVE BRAKE electronic brake control system. Depending on the engine installed, the disc diameters are up to 370 millimetres at the front and up to 360 millimetres at the rear. The S-Class features an electric parking brake as standard. A combined floating calliper with electric parking brake function is used on the rear axle.
With the ADAPTIVE BRAKE, the S-Class offers a wealth of assistance functions. One example of this is the practical HOLD function: after braking to a standstill, briefly pressing the brake pedal a little further is all that is required to activate this function. The car is then held by the brakes, even if the driver's foot comes off the brake pedal. The HOLD function is deactivated automatically when the car moves off.
If the driver's foot moves abruptly from the accelerator to the brake pedal before an emergency stop, the brake system increases the pressure in the brake lines and brings the pads into contact with the brake discs so that maximum braking power is available as soon as the driver hits the brake pedal. This priming of the brakes allows the system to assist the standard-fit Brake Assist system.
ADAPTIVE BRAKE also has safety benefits in the wet: the system briefly applies the brakes at regular intervals to wipe the film of water from the brake discs and ensure that the brakes are able to perform at their peak. The finely metered brake pulses are imperceptible to the driver. This automatic brake drying function is always activated when the windscreen wipers have been operating for a certain length of time.
Finally, ADAPTIVE BRAKE assists the driver when starting on an uphill slope. When the sensors detect that the Saloon has stopped on an uphill slope, Hill Start Assist is activated automatically, briefly holding the brake pressure at a constant level so as to prevent the car from rolling backwards.
The ESP® Dynamic Cornering Assist offers improved safety in critical cornering conditions. If the ESP® sensors detect an understeering tendency, the ESP® performs specific braking intervention on the side of the vehicle which is on the inside of the bend. This gives rise to gentle rotary movement of the vehicle around the vertical axis.
Crosswind Assist: strong gusts no longer a scare
Crosswind Assist helps the driver as it can substantially reduce the effect strong crosswinds have on the vehicle's straight-line stability.
In vehicles without ABC, the negative effect of the crosswind is compensated for by braking on one side of the vehicle activated by ESP® in the ADAPTIVE BRAKE, which is already being used by the Active Lane Keeping Assist/Blind Spot Assist. In vehicles with ABC suspension, crosswind stabilisation is achieved by means of targeted wheel load changes by adjusting the ABC dampers.

 

[Serpens]

Why not just update the CLS instead of another four door coupe?

LaArtist is there a piano black option for the wood trim?

They are going to be 2 different sizes.

 

[W124]

from Jalopnik.

How Much Does The New 2014 Mercedes S-Class Look Like The Old One?

There is a prominent rumor that despite its new internal code, the 2014 Mercedes S-Class is built on the same architecture as the old model. How similar do they look, though?

I've just been admiring it in photos. except for the bulge. .... I'll go back and read more thoroughly later. ... this was resolved earlier, right?

http://jalopnik.com/the-rear-wheel-arch-on-the-outgoing-model-was-such-an-e-508266944

 

[Kilcrohane]

'There is a prominent rumor that despite its new internal code, the 2014 Mercedes S-Class is built on the same architecture as the old model'

- that 'prominent' rumour wouldn't have been started here, on GCF, by any chance, by some malefactor?

Let's be honest, the likes of Jalopnik are desperately trying to 'unpick' the new S-Class because it dynamites the opposition, and shows Daimler, the Deutschland proxy if you will, in all its magnificent industrial, engineering and cultural might - think the launch event alone in Hamburg - which sticks mightily in the craw of the on the dark arts of marketing and PR alone dependent Anglo Saxons in the US and UK.

To undermine the new S-Class they've picked up some smear planted here and probably elsewhere, saying the S-Class is basically just a re-skin, because it has the same wheelbase measurement and uses an 'old' refrigerant, rather than the new, prone to spontaneously combust 'new' one from the Yanks, DuPont and Honeywell.

Let's knock this crap on the head right now. The new S-Class is brand new. Its tracks are different, its front wheel suspension and steering architecture are radically different, its on-board electronic communication architecture uses FlexRay, which post dates the 2005 W221, its Magic Body Control alone must be worth the engineering of whole other cars.

The new MRA architecture - not a 'platform' per se, rather a common components set, akin to VW's MQB/MLB philosophy - is responsible for an up to 100 kilo weight loss, size for size, feature for feature, as compared to the W221. As mentioned by others above its body is much stiffer compared to the predecessor. How can all that be achieved by just a re-skin?

The only major genuine ground for criticism of the supposed lack of 'clean-sheet' newness of the W222 is the carryover of the 7G 'box/lack of showcasing launch of the new 9-speed on the S-Class.

Even without the advantage of the 9G the W222 is at least competitive powertrain wise with the competition. But the real killer of the new S-Class, as everyone, even Jalopnik must have grasped, is the extraordinary interior, which has catapulted the S-Class not just above the A8, LS and so on, but also made the Flying Spur, Ghost and even the Phantom look like 'altbacken', stale bread, redundant, as they say in Germany.

 

[Kilcrohane]

According to Jesmb.de Mercedes will introduce 9G transmission this September at IAA and it will be available on S class by the end of this year.

- thanks for the heads up on the Jesmb.de info, 941benz, but Jesmb doesn't say that:

Der E 350 Bluetec soll auf der IAA 2013 als erstes und vorerst einziges Modell mit der von Mercedes selbst entwickelten 9G-Tronic 9-Gang-Automatik (NAG3) debütieren. Die Auslieferung wird vermutlich gegen Ende des 4. Quartals 2013 starten. Die Automatik wurde im MTC Untertürkheim entwickelt und wird im Werksteil Heldelfingen produziert. Da der Produktionsanlauf sehr komplex ist wird vorerst nur der E 350 Bluetec mit der 9G-Tronic verfügbar sein.​

I don't think we'll see the new 9G on the S-Class across the range or even partially to begin with on the S350 BlueTEC before model year 2015, i.e., a year away at the earliest.

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I think we can see now why Daimler chose not to launch the 9G with the W222. The 9G will obviously be very complex, both the design of the box itself, and the production process. To launch the new box on the company flagship and then have teething problems or worse would be fatal for the whole company. Such a complex new product needs an initial small volume ramp up and less attention.​

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Besides, whatever we think about the undoubted wonderfulness of the new S-Class, the real bread and butter of Daimler AG remains the heartland E-Class, and to an increasing extent, the coming 2014 C-Class and all its spin offs to compete with the huge selling 30-Series in the US and China. Automatic-boxed E-Classes probably do quarter of a million units a year compared to around 50k S-Classes.​

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The Facelifted 5-Series to be launched imminently will almost certainly include some further fuel economy and performance improvements. The E-Class will need the new 9-speed to keep up, edge ahead of BMW's relentless powertrain improvements. Currently:​

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E350 BlueTEC with 7G Plus​

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0-100 km/h 6.6s​

combined fuel econ. 5.5l/100 km 144g/km CO2​

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pre-LCI BMW 530d 8-spd Auto​

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0-100 km/h 6.0s​

combined fuel econ. 5.3l/100 km 139g/km CO2​

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[Wolfgang]

There is one question that has remained unanswered for me:

Where...Is...Wolfgang?

To be fair, LaArtist has done more than great job enhancing this thred

Travelling in central Europe for the last few weeks on a painfully slow wireless connection.

Thanks for all the great contributions, particularly from LaArtist! MB Passion confirmed the 9G-Tronic IAA debut on the E350 BlueTEC with shipments starting in Q4 2013.

 

[W201]

^
Ahhh, welcome to the Second World problems

 

[Huckfeldt]

Travelling in central Europe for the last few weeks on a painfully slow wireless connection.

Thanks for all the great contributions, particularly from LaArtist! MB Passion confirmed the 9G-Tronic IAA debut on the E350 BlueTEC with shipments starting in Q4 2013.

Welcome back ! 9g will not be so soon available for the V8 or..?

 

[Amat46]

Thanks La. Quick question, Does that mean that the system will not work at night?

Enjoy

MAGIC BODY CONTROL: the world's first suspension system with "eyes"
The new S-Class is the world's first car to be able to detect bumps on the road ahead. The MAGIC BODY CONTROL suspension system available as an option for the eight-cylinder models includes ACTIVE BODY CONTROL (ABC) and the new and innovative ROAD SURFACE SCAN function.
The "eyes" for the ROAD SURFACE SCAN function are provided by a stereo camera fitted behind the windscreen, which scans the road up to 15 metres ahead of the vehicle and delivers a precise image of the road contours. Based on the camera pictures and driving status information, the control unit constantly calculates the best control strategy for overcoming unevenness such as prolonged bumps.
The vehicle can therefore adjust the damping of each individual wheel to a tauter or softer setting in advance and increase or reduce the load on the wheel by means of an active hydraulic system. The suspension is adapted to a given situation within fractions of a second, and body movement can be reduced considerably. This results in a hitherto unprecedented level of ride comfort. Because ROAD SURFACE SCAN is camera-based, it can work throughout the day if visibility is good, the road structure is suitable and even at speeds of up to 130 km/h.
In the Active Body Control system from Mercedes-Benz, the four spring struts are equipped with hydraulic cylinders (plungers) to adjust the force in each spring strut individually. This means that the system can almost completely compensate for lifting, rolling and pitching of the body. The control unit receives information on the current driving situation from various acceleration sensors and then compares these data with those from the pressure sensors in the spring struts and the level sensors on the control arms. The system then computes the control signals for the servo-hydraulic valves at the front and rear axle to ensure precisely metered oil flows.
Once oil flows into the plunger cylinders, this modifies the tracing point of the steel springs integrated into the spring struts, generating the necessary force to counteract the body movements. Thanks to a constantly available hydraulic pressure of up to 200 bar, ABC is able to stabilise the body within fractions of a second.
The ABC has undergone major modifications for the new S-Class: the wheel damping is now continuously adjustable, the spring strut response has been improved and the pump efficiency has been further enhanced. A digital interface connects the control unit and the sensors, while the fast FlexRay bus connects the control unit and the vehicle electronics. Processing power is more than double that of the previous system.
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[Wolfgang]

Welcome back ! 9g will not be so soon available for the V8 or..?

Should arrive about mid 2014 on the V8s.

The 9G-Tronic is planned for the S500/S550 S-Class 8-cylinder (222.082 SWB or 222.182 LWB) as well as for the S350 BlueTEC (222.132) - but also the S400 (222.165) will offer the new box. Currently we have no further information - but will stay tuned. Translated from MB Passion http://