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The Smart Fortwo (stylized as "smart fortwo") is a two-seater city car manufactured and marketed by the Smart division of the Mercedes-Benz Group for model years 1998–2024, across three generations - each using a rear-engine, rear-wheel-drive layout and a one-box design. The Smart Forfour (stylized as "smart forfour") is a city car (A-segment) marketed by Smart over two generations. The first generation was marketed in Europe from 2004 to 2006 with a front-engine configuration, sharing its platform with the Mitsubishi Colt.
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G-Class Explorer
Now that's cool. That's how they should have approached the FourFour to begin with.
Wolfgang
Kraftwagen König
Daimler/Renault cooperation rumors again
Renault Clio GT
Daimler is said to be planning a comprehensive cooperation with Renault again according to rumors published by Manager Magazin. Daimler did not comment, though, and so far it's not finalised.
It would include a new forfour and also a new fortwo. Three cylinder engines for the A-/B-Class might also be planned.
Manager Magazin, Google Translated
Renault Clio GT
Daimler is said to be planning a comprehensive cooperation with Renault again according to rumors published by Manager Magazin. Daimler did not comment, though, and so far it's not finalised.
It would include a new forfour and also a new fortwo. Three cylinder engines for the A-/B-Class might also be planned.
Manager Magazin, Google Translated
Wolfgang
Kraftwagen König
I want to see a Clio with the 6.3 AMG engine behind the front seats
Tell Carlos!
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where is that photo from ? And who's the guy on the far left ?
Wolfgang
Kraftwagen König
It's a Reuters photo taken at the IAA 2007. Carl-Peter Forster is on the far left, formerly with Opel, and soon joining Tata according to rumors, supposedly working out of Mumbai.
Wolfgang
Kraftwagen König
More details emerge:
Renault and Mercedes unite to develop small car platform
Posted on: November 30th, 2009 by editor
Renault and Mercedes-Benz are teaming up to develop a modern small car platform and two engine models which will serve as the foundation for a new series of Renault city cars and Smart vehicles.
The new platform is planned to have a rear-engine, rear-drive chassis. It will be employed for the new Smart Fortwo car, to be introduced in 2013, and for the planned Forfour model in 2014. The platform will also be utilized by Renault for its new car models, including the Twizy electric automobile.
Meanwhile, it is uncertain whether the Renault-owned Dacia, Nissan and Samsung will have access to the new platform. Nissan had earlier planned a new vehicle model positioned beneath the Micra, which is to be assembled at its Sunderland plant. However, its future at the moment looks unsure.
Renault and Mercedes also agree to share new engines, which are designed differently from Smart and created particularly for the rear-drive platform. The modern engines will be fixed to a six-speed manual gearbox or a seven-speed, double-clutch transmission.
Moreover, the two car firms are working on a series of sub 1.8-litre, four-cylinder diesel and petrol engines that could be used in more advanced versions of the Forfour. The engines can also be installed in the next A and B-classes, and future models of the Clio, Megane, Modus, Scenic and Twingo.
Due to the resemblance in mechanical design, it is probable that the new Forfour will be manufactured by Renault, alongside its modern four-door model. Meanwhile, the Fortwo car will be assembled at Smart’s plant in Hambach, France.
From:
Renault and Mercedes unite to develop small car platform | Electric.co.uk News
Renault and Mercedes unite to develop small car platform
Posted on: November 30th, 2009 by editor
Renault and Mercedes-Benz are teaming up to develop a modern small car platform and two engine models which will serve as the foundation for a new series of Renault city cars and Smart vehicles.
The new platform is planned to have a rear-engine, rear-drive chassis. It will be employed for the new Smart Fortwo car, to be introduced in 2013, and for the planned Forfour model in 2014. The platform will also be utilized by Renault for its new car models, including the Twizy electric automobile.
Meanwhile, it is uncertain whether the Renault-owned Dacia, Nissan and Samsung will have access to the new platform. Nissan had earlier planned a new vehicle model positioned beneath the Micra, which is to be assembled at its Sunderland plant. However, its future at the moment looks unsure.
Renault and Mercedes also agree to share new engines, which are designed differently from Smart and created particularly for the rear-drive platform. The modern engines will be fixed to a six-speed manual gearbox or a seven-speed, double-clutch transmission.
Moreover, the two car firms are working on a series of sub 1.8-litre, four-cylinder diesel and petrol engines that could be used in more advanced versions of the Forfour. The engines can also be installed in the next A and B-classes, and future models of the Clio, Megane, Modus, Scenic and Twingo.
Due to the resemblance in mechanical design, it is probable that the new Forfour will be manufactured by Renault, alongside its modern four-door model. Meanwhile, the Fortwo car will be assembled at Smart’s plant in Hambach, France.
From:
Renault and Mercedes unite to develop small car platform | Electric.co.uk News
cawimmer430
Piston Pioneer
It has the Ocean Drive's headlamps... Now that is just too much part sharing MB...
And the mirrors look like those found on recent MB's too!
Wolfgang
Kraftwagen König
AMS confirmed Dieter Zetsche and Carlos Goshn are talking.
Google Translated AMS Story
Some points:
Decision expected in first quarter 2010
smart may lead joint chassis development
renault may lead joint motor/transmission development
new smart fortwo expected in 2013/14
smart forfour with 4 seats/doors follows one year later, may share platform with Twingo
Renault may be interested in Mercedes battery expertise
Renault may be interested in light commercial vehicle cooperation, e.g. for a future Kangoo
Google Translated AMS Story
Some points:
Decision expected in first quarter 2010
smart may lead joint chassis development
renault may lead joint motor/transmission development
new smart fortwo expected in 2013/14
smart forfour with 4 seats/doors follows one year later, may share platform with Twingo
Renault may be interested in Mercedes battery expertise
Renault may be interested in light commercial vehicle cooperation, e.g. for a future Kangoo
Mr Robert
Kraftwagen König
A cooperation with Renault regarding smaller cars would be super for Mercedes. Renault is, without doubt, one of the sports oriented small-car brands.
Wolfgang
Kraftwagen König
Here's an update on smart goings on in the United States of America:
Penske Still Enthusiastic Over Smart Brand, Despite Plunging Sales
By Herb Shuldiner - WardsAuto.com
NEW YORK – Roger Penske, chief of Penkse Automotive Group’s Smart U.S.A. Distributor LLC, still is enthused about selling Daimler AG’s A-segment car, despite its precipitous plunge in sales in the year’s first quarter. Penske says his dealers also remain confident in the brand’s future.
However, he suggests Daimler needs to emulate BMW AG’s Mini brand in evolving a market plan that creates some derivatives to expand the Smart product portfolio. Penske tells Ward’s Daimler has the right to buy back a 50% share of the exclusive Smart distribution operation after five years. “If they want it back, then I’d be happy to sell it to them,” Penske says, although he doesn’t appear eager to abandon his exclusive arrangement.
A Daimler spokeswoman here declines to confirm this arrangement. Details of the exclusive contract’s “duration and maturity are confidential,” she says. “(They) only concern the contractual partners, and thus are not being made public.” Smart sales fell to 1,397 for the year’s first quarter, compared with 4,937 units in like-2009, according to Ward’s data.
But Penske insists there has been no wholesale defection of dealers, and he is confident in the staying power of the Smart brand in the U.S. While he would like to see additional models added to the Smart portfolio, he declines to comment on what those derivatives might be.
This week, Daimler signed a deal with Renault SA and Nissan Motor Co. Ltd to collaborate on future small cars, including next-generation Smarts due in 2013.
http://wardsauto.com/home/penske_enthusiastic_smart_100409/
Wolfgang
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