Event of the year - Sport Auto 0-300-0 km/h

DeDe · Sep 18, 2009

Out today! Will buy and scan it next week!!!

The participants are:

Porsche 997 Turbo mk2!!!
Cadillac CTS-V
AM V12 Vantage
Ruf Rt 12 S
Koenigsegg CCX-R
Gumpert Apollo
Lamborghini Murciélago LP670-4 SV
Porsche 997 GT3 mk2
Wiesmann GT MF5
Cargaphic 997 Turbo GT RSC
TechArt GTstreet RS
MTM Audi RS6 Avant
Geiger-Ford GT
Geiger-Corvette Z06

Also in the issue:

Corvette ZR1 Supertest on The Ring (7.38 min)
Renault Clio Cup vs. Seat Ibiza Cupra
Test - a-workx-BMW M3
Test - Opel Insignia OPC

Sunny · Sep 18, 2009

So I guess ZR1 and GTR have the same time around the ring.

As for the 0-300 race, my money is on the egg.

DeDe · Sep 18, 2009

Sunny said:
So I guess ZR1 and GTR have the same time around the ring.

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[/SIZE] both did it in 7.38 min (with the same driver).

0-300-0 test: the CCX is the fastest IMO, but my choice is the new Turbo, followed by the GT3 and MTM-RS6.

martinbo · Sep 18, 2009

I reckon the Gumpert is in with a shout.

DeDe · Sep 18, 2009

The acceleration data

0-100 km/h:
3.1 s - Porsche 997.2 Turbo PDK, 500 PS/1606 kg :t-hair:

3.2 s - Lamborghini Murcielago LP 670-4 SV, 670 PS/1751 kg
3.6 s - Ruf Rt12 S, 685 PS/1608 kg
3.9 s - Gumpert Apollo, 700 PS/1148 kg
3.9 s - Koenisgegg CCX-R, 806 PS/1473 kg
3.9 s - Wiesmann GT MF5, 507 PS/1421 kg
4.0 s - Porsche GT3, 435 PS/1453 kg
4.5 s - Aston Martin V12 Vantage, 517 PS/1709 kg
4.7 s - Cadillac CTS-V, 564 PS/1955 kg

0-200 km/h:
9.5 s - Gumpert Apollo, 700 PS/1148 kg
9.8 s - Koenigsegg CCX-R, 806 PS/1473 kg
10.3s - Lamborghini Murcielago LP 670-4 SV, 670 PS/1751 kg
10.6s - Ruf Rt12 S, 685 PS/1608 kg
10.8s - Porsche 997.2 Turbo PDK, 500 PS/1606 kg
11.6s - Wiesmann GT MF5, 507 PS/1421 kg
12.8s - Porsche GT3, 435 PS/1453 kg
14.0s - Aston Martin V12 Vantage, 517 PS/1709 kg
14.3s - Cadillac CTS-V, 564 PS/1955 kg

0-300 km/h:
24.7s - Koenigsegg CCX-R, 806 PS/1473 kg
26.7s - Gumpert Apollo, 700 PS/1148 kg
27.3s - Ruf Rt12 S, 685 PS/1608 kg
29.7s - Lamborghini Murcielago LP 670-4 SV, 670 PS/1751 kg
40.6s - Wiesmann GT MF5, 507 PS/1421 kg
41.9s - Porsche 997.2 Turbo PDK, 500 PS/1606 kg
50.3s - Porsche GT3, 435 PS/1453 kg
53.7s - Aston Martin V12 Vantage, 517 PS/1709 kg
69.3s - Cadillac CTS-V, 564 PS/1955 kg

Centurion · Sep 18, 2009

Good lord those are some insane numbers for the Turbo, a mere 0.5 seconds shy of the Veryon. If anyone is to end the reign of the Veyron it will be Porsche with the 998 Turbo. That is blistering quick.

martinbo · Sep 18, 2009

Thanks DeDe, as always...

Some interesting numbers there, especially regards the CCX vs. Gumpert duel and the showdown between the SV and 997.2 Turbo. That Porsche is mighty quick off the line. Must feel like launching from a rocket. To 200 km/h it's half a second behind the SV but from there onwards... that SV just monsters it. 10 seconds quicker to 300 km/h. SuperVeloce indeed. So the thinking is along the same lines as klier's in the GT3 RS thread. In order to make truly rapid progress upwards from 200 km/h, big power, light weight and a small frontal area are the vital ingredients. The top 7 in the 0-300 km/h stint are in exact order of power output. Need those horses to force your way through the air.

I'm too lazy to go and look for what a Veyron does 0-300 in...

Monster · Sep 18, 2009

Centurion said:
Good lord those are some insane numbers for the Turbo, a mere 0.5 seconds shy of the Veryon. If anyone is to end the reign of the Veyron it will be Porsche with the 998 Turbo. That is blistering quick.

Are you referring to the 0-100km/h time? I am sorry but saying the next 998 Turbo will end the reign of the Veyron is incorrect. With today's ultra powerful sports cars and their sophisticated dual clutch gearbox , the old acceleration standard of 0-100km/h isn't sufficient to separate the true supercars from high performance sports cars in terms of straight line performance. The Veyron can do 0-200km/h in 7.3 sec, while the 997.2 Turbo did it in 10.6 sec.

DeDe · Sep 18, 2009

martinbo said:
I'm too lazy to go and look for what a Veyron does 0-300 in...

According to AMS: 18,2 s

Monster · Sep 18, 2009

martinbo said:
I'm too lazy to go and look for what a Veyron does 0-300 in...

The Veyron gets the job done in 16.7 sec.

DeDe · Sep 18, 2009

The Caddy did 0-300 km/h 25 seconds faster than it did in Nardo. :eusa_clap

Mr Robert · Sep 18, 2009

DeDe said:
The Caddy did 0-300 km/h 25 seconds faster than it did in Nardo.

...and it was the same car... or that was maybe exactly what you meant?

DeDe · Sep 18, 2009

dr Dunkel said:
...and it was the same car... or that was maybe exactly what you meant?

Yes. Sport Auto did this test on the 4-km-long straight of the Papenburg test facility, maybe that's why it's much faster up to 300 km/h than it was at Nardo. :usa7uh:

Zafiro · Sep 18, 2009

Sunny said:
So I guess ZR1 and GTR have the same time around the ring.

Sunny, now its just matter of time before Sportauto does a N-ring supertest with the Caddy :usa7uh:

. They probably already done the laptime but not official yet.

Mr Robert · Sep 18, 2009

Just_me said:
Sunny, now its just matter of time before Sportauto does a N-ring supertest with the Caddy . They probably already done the laptime but not official yet.

So, will it be sub 8?

DeDe · Sep 18, 2009

dr Dunkel said:
So, will it be sub 8?

I think 8.10 min is possible.

Mr Robert · Sep 18, 2009

DeDe said:
I think 8.10 min is possible.

I think so too. Somewhere between 8.15 and 8.05....

DeDe · Sep 18, 2009

Here are the other times. :usa7uh:

0-100 km/h:

3,0 s - Cargraphic-997 Turbo GT RSC
3,6 s - Geiger-Ford GT
3,6 s - MTM-Audi RS6 R
3,7 s - TechArt GTstreet RS
4,3 s - Geiger-Corvette Z06

0-200 km/h:

9,1 s - Cargraphic-997 Turbo GT RSC
9,5 s - Geiger-Ford GT
10,0 s - TechArt GTstreet RS
11,0 s - MTM-Audi RS6 R
12,0 s - Geiger-Corvette Z06

0-300 km/h:

22,8 s - Geiger-Ford GT
23,8 s - Cargraphic-997 Turbo GT RSC
26,4 s - TechArt GTstreet RS
35,5 s - MTM-Audi RS6 R
43,2 s - Geiger-Corvette Z06

And the 0-300-0 km/h ranking is...

30,3 s - Geiger-Ford GT
30,8 s - Cargraphic-997 Turbo GT RSC
31,6 s - Koenigsegg CCX-R
33,3 s - Gumpert Apollo Speed
33,4 s - TechArt GTstreet RS
34,4 s - Ruf Rt12 S
36,2 s - Lamborghini Murciélago LP670-4 SV
43,2 s - MTM-Audi RS6 R
47,7 s - Wiesmann GT MF5
49,0 s - Porsche 997 Turbo PDK
50,7 s - Geiger-Corvette Z06
57,1 s - Porsche 997 GT3 mk2
61,2 s - Aston Martin V12 Vantage
77,0 s - Cadillac CTS-V

Scans will come on next Tuesday or Wednesday. I hope I'll be able to scan AutoBild Sportscars articles as well (Panamera Turbo vs. S63 AMG for example).

emve · Sep 19, 2009

Thanks DeDe.

What are the specs of that 997 GT RSC ?

DeDe · Sep 19, 2009

emve said:
Thanks DeDe.

What are the specs of that 997 GT RSC ?

If I'm right, it's the same car they tested last year. 624-hp-TT. Top speed: 324 km/h.
:t-cheers:

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