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***Testdrove a 2007 Mercedes-Benz E280 CDI***This is a discussion on ***Testdrove a 2007 Mercedes-Benz E280 CDI*** within the The Mercedes-Benz Lounge forums, part of the Mercedes-Benz category; I finally did it: drove the new facelifted W211 E-Class! The model I tried was the new E280 CDI in ... |
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| ***Testdrove a 2007 Mercedes-Benz E280 CDI*** I finally did it: drove the new facelifted W211 E-Class! The model I tried was the new E280 CDI in Avantgarde trim level. This was going to be an interesting testdrive, because I can compare the new facelifted E-Class directly to our very own 2002 E320, one of the first delivered in all of Germany. ![]() First impressions were positive. The new E-Class feels noticeably more solid than the pre-facelift version. The doors feel heavier and close with a nice “thud” sound. Everything inside feels a notch or two better than before, including panel gaps. The main cockpit materials remained virtually the same, but some of the buttons appear more high quality than before. The new leather feels very nice. This E280 CDI incidentally had the 50-50 leather-cloth option for its seat: a very popular option in Europe. ![]() The exterior? Originally, I hated the new front of the E-Class. Now, the design seems to be growing on me. It’s not that bad, but I still prefer the original W211 Avantgarde E-class look. Space-wise, nothing has changed. The E-Class is still very generous with space. I sat in a 2006 Lexus GS at a Lexus show and that car appeared cramped compared to the E-Class. Being a diesel engine, you need to pre-heat it for it to start. The process took 2 seconds and boom, the engine came to life. The first thing you notice is an absence of vibrations and sound. Where is the diesel clatter? The interior sound isolation seemed excellent. I couldn’t hear the engine and later during the drive, exterior noises were kept out: better than in our pre-facelift E320. When you opened the door, you could hear the soft clatter of the diesel engine. Looks like the future has positive things in store for the diesel engine (less noise etc.). ![]() Driving off the dealer lot, I noticed how responsive the engine was – even while still cold. Initially, I was disappointed with the steering. It was so light and had absolutely no feeling to it. Later, as I was gaining speed, I noticed that the steering became more direct and the lightness was gone. Then it hit me: all new Mercedes’ have the Parameterlenkung. This device ensures a light steering feel at lower speeds and a more direct steering feel at higher speeds. Well, it worked. So good was the steering when I was traveling at higher speeds, I felt I could take any curve without slowing down: a maneuver that would have to be aided with a good suspension. The suspension was noticeably harder and sturdier than our E320’s, but the amazing part was that this car is still more comfortable and obviously better in the handling department as well. Amazing. ![]() The E280 CDI utilizes the same engine as found in the European E320 CDI (the US-spec E320 CDI still uses the old 3.2-l inline-6 CDI), a 3.0 V6 CDI that’s been detuned to 190-horsepower but still offers 440 Nm (324 lb/ft) at a low 1,400 RPM all the way to around 3,000 RPM. If you think this car is slow, guess again. The torque can only benefit acceleration and this car was powerful (see video). During the 45 minutes I had the car, I smashed the pedal again and again to enjoy that thrust. Boy, this car sure is quick. It’s not blisteringly fast, but it sure is quick. 0-100 km/h in about 8.2 seconds I would guess. Midrange acceleration is however perfectly suited for quick overtaking on country roads and on the Autobahns. ![]() You can get a 6-speed manual with the E280 CDI, but thankfully, this one had the 7Gtronic transmission. There’s no comparison to the “old” 5-speed automatic in our E320. The 7Gtronic shifts faster, is smoother and is also quieter. As usual, I tried changing gears manually using the manual shift option but this is just a waste of time as the transmission was usually so good, you never had to pick a gear. However, drop it down into 2nd or 3rd and enjoy the thrust when you slam the pedal. Lovely, just lovely. ![]() Towards the end of the testdrive, I was having cravings for this baby. I didn’t want to return it. Rather, I wanted to trade in our E320 for this E280 CDI. The performance is really nice, fuel economy is obviously great and the new handling and driving dynamics are amazing. I always said that our E320 was a capable handler and could be driven sporty – the new E-Class takes this to a whole new level. It feels almost like a BMW than a Mercedes. Having experienced this, I have no doubts that the E63 AMG’s main improvement was not performance over the E55 AMG, but something much more important to the sporty driver: handling. The car sounds almost perfect. However, there are obviously downside, notably the high price tag (41.238 Euros base price) and the fact that equipping this car with options will cost you. This E280 CDI was actually a stripper model. It had electric seats as opposed to the usual manual seats, but that’s about it. Oh, and before I forgot, this baby comes standard with PRE-SAFE, NECK-PRO and a particulate filter for the diesel. I suppose safety features will attract a lot of buyers. There is also a 4Matic (AWD) version available. ![]() Other than that, it was an amazing experience. I loved the way it drove. The handling and steering feel gave you confidence. Best of all, while being driven in a sporty fashion, the car was still comfortable therefore giving you the best of both worlds. The difference between this E280 CDI and our E320 is like night and day. Mercedes seems to be coming back strongly. A word of warning to the competition: watch out. More pictures: http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2101865573 VIDEOS 0-100 km/h Acceleration Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG32FTgDj0s Acceleration Video 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doFKd-XtXKI Other Videos I took of the E280 CDI: 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9El_XhZ8JAk 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHGFyYMtYg8 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7td7Bn5clU 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxqWFcqEi8I
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| Re: ***Testdrove a 2007 Mercedes-Benz E280 CDI*** Great review man. I haven't watched the videos because I'm at work. But i'll take a look when I get back home. Anyways, too bad we can't get the deisel in California...freakin stupid law! ![]()
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I think California's emission laws are biased towards gasoline-powered vehicles. A shame. These new diesels are just so addicting - and clean (and getting cleaner as we speak). Hey, I have the solution, move out of California.
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| Re: ***Testdrove a 2007 Mercedes-Benz E280 CDI*** Cawimmer...if I had the money I would move out of california without a problem. Beleive me...the emission laws aren't the only thing in this state that piss me off...there are many other retarded laws here that don't benifit anyone except for the rich and this states image.
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| Re: ***Testdrove a 2007 Mercedes-Benz E280 CDI*** ![]() This shot looks particularly good, thanks for another great review Wimmer. ![]() |
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| Re: ***Testdrove a 2007 Mercedes-Benz E280 CDI*** Very nice review of a very nice car, thnx ![]() |
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| Re: ***Testdrove a 2007 Mercedes-Benz E280 CDI*** Thanks for the review Chris, great as always! I'm glad to see this car is of much improvement over the old model, but I'm still unsure about the styling, parts of the new face look like after thoughts still! I'm sure after seeing more and more on the road the old model will just look old fashioned, as will all facelifts1 |
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| Re: ***Testdrove a 2007 Mercedes-Benz E280 CDI*** great review, and many thanks Christian. I can say that you live in a very beautiful place in Germany. There is almost no green where i live... As for the car, just what i expected. MB is doing very good as it should. The whole design of the car is very nice, inside out, and it's also my favourite MB. About the front bumper, it's not the best design possible, but it's not the end of the world. I could live with it, if i had 45.000eur to spend for a car...
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![]() Thanks for the review. Competition should watch out. I like the front-end of this car more I see it. There's just more car there.
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I didn't like the style at first either but it is slowly growing on me, especially the Avantgarde models like the one I drove. The original W221 Avantgarde E-Class still looks pretty good IMO though.
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I live in the province, which is basically all farmland and forests so that explains all the green. ![]()
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I hear cars in Scandinavia are quite "overpriced", so that probably explains why the B-Class you guys get is so expensive. However, the B200 CDI is the top of the line diesel B-Class.
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| Re: ***Testdrove a 2007 Mercedes-Benz E280 CDI*** hi, i'm new here. this is my first post. was reading thru one of the sites which linked to this thread. I liked your review very much cawimmer430, especially the video of the acceleration from standstill. actually have seen quite a few threads by you in other forums, am impressed, but i was just browsing thru this forum and i liked it so much that i joined it...btw ojis the b-170, standard specs is some 44K euros..and the high-end model we have is the e200 turbo which costs 63K euros...sigh.. |
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Glad you liked my review. I've got quite a few so if you want to read some more, just let me know, I can dig them up for you. You've made the right choice to come to GCZ. Love this place. ![]()
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| Re: ***Testdrove a 2007 Mercedes-Benz E280 CDI*** This is a really great review of the E 280 CDI. Thank you cawimmer430 for present your impressions! But I must say the E 280 with a 6-speed-manual is also a pleasure to drive. It is a bit unfortunate that the first gear has a very short gear transmission ratio. But at the Autobahn the CDI plays off his trumps. It is very comfortable (as you describe) and it's "only" consume between 8 to 10 litre. |
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![]() Anyway, the e280 cdi...just love it. how is the sound system? is there an option for logic 7 like in the 5 series? here in malaysia, you can't get any models with additional options ![]() | |
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| Re: ***Testdrove a 2007 Mercedes-Benz E280 CDI*** Very nice review Chris...excellent narrative and nice images. Oh, the car is nice also...I liked my '03 E320....but... The diesel should be a big seller here...and once the other 5 states can sell them sales should really pick up.
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I don't have the best experiences with Mercedes-Benz manual transmissions. They're simply not designed with "passion in mind" as are those from BMW or Honda. MB just makes manuals to compete, but not for the enthusiastic driver. But their automatics are excellent. ![]()
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Tell you what, I'll provide you with a link to my countless testdrives. Most of them are on C&D because the search function here is kind of broken. Most of my reviews were posted on www.automobear.com where I was a member, but they've sinced shut down so the updates don't come. The sound system was pretty good. I'm no expert, but I did drive for awhile with the radio and the sound quality appeared to be much better than the one in our E-Class. Overall, it just feels like a new and improved car. Highly recommendable IMO. ![]()
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Thanks Jack. BTW, do you think a smaller diesel like the E280 CDI might sell in the US?
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