Car and Driver: 2012 BMW M3 vs 2012 C63 AMG
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wookieecrisp
Turbo Tüftler
Closer than its ever been to an M3... IMO Car and Driver summed it up very well. Thanks for sharing!
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High-Rev Hero
Not a problem! I have the PDF form of the results if anyone wants them. I know this isn't great quality.
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Updated the original picture! This should be easier to read!
HighestOfHigh
Cornering Kingpin
Lol...Anytime Car and Driver is involved BMW will always be the winner. Even if they compare a S63 AMG to a 1 series the 1er would win. No surprise here.
LOL. This is true. And now that Audi is the new BMW, Audi is starting to win all tests. All C&D and worthless Car Rag testers care about is harsh rides and handling. I was searching for a comfortable Mid-Size commuter/Econ car, and I had to sift through these idiots talking about harsh road feel and how they twirl around cones through all the Articles I looked up.
That said, although I like the motor in the C63 more, I'd pick the M3 on this as well.
hoffmeister_fan
Kraftwagen König
Both cars are epic, but the price for these cars are getting a tad ridiculous. Well, at least this is a nice send-off to the last NA M car we may ever see. The new M5 has given me some optimism on how the engineers in Munich are going to approach turbocharging, but I can't help get a bit misty-eyed.
Fare thee well, revver of hearts, you shall be missed.
Fare thee well, revver of hearts, you shall be missed.
The M3 seems to have become lighter for some reason. I wonder if being equipped with ZCP had something to do with it (although, the 19 wheels are heavier in the ZCP than the stock 19). I remember back in 2007, I used to see weight ranging from 3590 - 3650 lbs for the M3.
Zafiro
Supreme Roadmaster
Thats not true (anymore). BMW are losing more and more and Audi seem to be winner most of the time. As you can see below, BMW do not always win.
2011 Audi A8L vs. 2011 BMW 750Li, 2011 Jaguar XJL Supercharged - Comparison Tests
Porsche Panamera S vs. BMW 750i, Maserati Quattroporte Sport GT S - Comparison Tests
2010 Audi A6 3.0T Quattro vs. 2011 BMW 535i, 2011 Infiniti M37 - Comparison Tests
2009 Audi A6 3.0T vs. 2009 BMW 535i, 2009 Infiniti M45, 2009 Jaguar XF, 2010 M-B E350 - Comparison Tests
2007 BMW 550i vs. Infiniti M45, Lexus GS450h, M-B E550 - Comparison Tests
2005 Acura RL vs. 2005 Audi A6, 2005 BMW 530i, and Five More Luxury Sedans - Comparison Tests
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/2010-audi-s4-vs-2009-bmw-335i-comparison-tests
http://www.caranddriver.com/compari...e35i-audi-tts-chevy-corvette-comparison-tests
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/2006-bmw-z4-m-coupe-vs-porsche-cayman-s-comparison-tests
http://www.caranddriver.com/compari...-nissan-350z-porsche-boxster-comparison-tests
http://www.caranddriver.com/compari...550-2006-porsche-911-carrera-comparison-tests
http://www.caranddriver.com/compari...3-and-pontiac-solstice-gxp-comparison-tests-1
http://www.caranddriver.com/compari...x5-land-rover-lr4-lexus-gx460-comparison-test
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/2007-audi-s6-vs-bmw-m5-m-b-e63-amg-comparison-tests
With that said, M3 win the majority of these comparisons. This is no newsflash to see M3 win once again. Lets see if next M3 will be great as well.
How the hell is it SO fast? I'm guessing obviously weight coupled with what must be an underrated HP figure, and a car fully tuned to be as raw and aggressive as possible.
I'd imagine the E63, even without PP (especially with PP) should have a higher Trap Speed, but 120 MPH is already really up there.
I'd imagine the E63, even without PP (especially with PP) should have a higher Trap Speed, but 120 MPH is already really up there.
