AMS - BMW 135i DKG vs. Volkswagen Golf R DSG

DeDe · Jul 1, 2010

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BMW 135i DKG vs. Volkswagen Golf R DSG

Engine: i6, biturbo / i4, turbo
Power: 306 hp / 270 hp
Torque: 400 Nm / 350 Nm
Gearbox: 7-speed-DKG / 6-speed-DSG
Weight: 1535 kg / 1537 kg
Vmax.: 250 km/h (both)
0-100 km/h: 5,1 s / 5,5 s
0-160 km/h: 11,6 s / 13,3 s
0-200 km/h: 18,5 s / 23,6 s
Flexibility (80-120 km/h) in 5th: 6,1 s / 6,6 s
18 m slalom: 65,6 km/h / 64,9 km/h
110 m evasive test: 137,5 km/h / 133,8 km/h
Braking (100-0 km/h): 36,1 m / 37,1 m (warm)
Avg. fuel consumption: 11,7 / 11,2 l/100 km
Basic price: €42.360,- / €38.700,-

Notes from the article:

The Golf R won the test because of its praticality and costs. The engine is powerful, the DSG is brilliant. The adaptive suspension is not too comfy.
The BMW accelerates better, brakes better and handles better. But it's lost because of its unpractical coupé-body.

Mr Robert · Jul 1, 2010

I really can't think of any reason, what so ever, to go for the Golf R over the 135i.

martinbo · Jul 1, 2010

The BMW's engine character outweighs the Golf's price and practicality for me. There's also something very appealing about the 135i's compact, coupe looks too. So, to give the admittedly attractive yet-still-a-hatchback Golf R points for practicality over a far more exclusive coupe design in the context of this test is simply not apples for apples.

In my book the Coupe and Hatch should score equal points on looks and practicality respectively and then judged further on the obectively comparable such as price, performance, frugality etc...

Merc1 · Jul 1, 2010

dr Dunkel said:
I really can't think of any reason, what so ever, to go for the Golf R over the 135i.

The only reason I could think of would be the styling. The 1-Series is ugliest BMW in production today IMO.

M

chonkoa · Jul 1, 2010

Merc1 said:
The only reason I could think of would be the styling. The 1-Series is ugliest BMW in production today IMO.

M

I think the X3 will diagree with on that..

Merc1 · Jul 1, 2010

chonkoa said:
I think the X3 will diagree with on that..

Oh yeah I forgot about the X3. Yeah its the worst looking BMW in production for sure.

M

Cashmere · Jul 2, 2010

anyone know why BMW dont offer the 135 in hatchback form?

klier · Jul 2, 2010

^ Nope, would be awesome.

BTW, with the Golf R winning over the 135i coupé DTC in the AMS, it CLEARLY shows we shouldn't take every result for granted. It's absolutely impossible in my world that the Golf wins. Absolutely impossible.

Merc1, I still think the 1er coupé is one of the best looking Bimmers in the line-up

DeDe · Jul 2, 2010

klier said:
BTW, with the Golf R winning over the 135i coupé DTC in the AMS, it CLEARLY shows we shouldn't take every result for granted. It's absolutely impossible in my world that the Golf wins. Absolutely impossible.

That's why there's a "sporty" edition of AMS: Sport Auto.

If they would test these cars, the BMW would win. That's clear.
:t-cheers:

DeDe · Jul 2, 2010

[scans] AMS - BMW 135i DKG vs. Volkswagen Golf R DSG

:t-cheers:

Karabiner98k · Jul 4, 2010

DeDe said:

It seems that there is something wrong in this page about flexibility times for 135i because 60-100km/h in 6th and 5th gear is faster than 4th gear!! (7.1-5.4-6.2)
Is it a misprint???

DeDe · Jul 4, 2010

Karabiner98k said:
It seems that there is something wrong in this page about flexibility times for 135i because 60-100km/h in 6th and 5th gear is faster than 4th gear!! (7.1-5.4-6.2)
Is it a misprint???

Probably. I think it's 4,1 seconds, not 7,1.
:t-cheers:

Remy Zero · Jul 12, 2010

Golf pls

NarutoRamen · Jul 14, 2010

After getting to push the 135i, there is no way in hell I'd choose that other thing.

siko · Jul 14, 2010

I love how they mostly test the cars for their performance and declare a winner based on "praticality"! That's just funny.

NarutoRamen · Jul 15, 2010

siko said:
I love how they mostly test the cars for their performance and declare a winner based on "praticality"! That's just funny.

Pretty stupid isn't it.

ree · Jul 15, 2010

siko said:
I love how they mostly test the cars for their performance and declare a winner based on "praticality"! That's just funny.

NarutoRamen said:
Pretty stupid isn't it.

That's because it's a test by AMS and not SportAuto. Most of the reader will never own an 135i or Golf R I think and they just want to test and compare what people need in daily use. Well, completely mindless with such cars, but they ever did and will always do compare praticality.
They even do with hardcore sportcars like GT3 RS (and it will get a "minus" then, because you can't go to the next IKEA for buying some new shelves.).

footie · Jul 15, 2010

DeDe said:
That's why there's a "sporty" edition of AMS: Sport Auto. If they would test these cars, the BMW would win. That's clear.

Every roadtest comparison should include practicality if the cars in question are design as everyday modes of transport and offer a more on two seats.

Should the Golf have won? Well that greatly depends on what ever perspective you happen to have, some might view that fact that the Golf got exceedingly close to the 135i in terms of overall performance yet was far more accommodating and practical as reason to give it the win, where as others might view outright performance as the only thing important and see the 135i the winner because it got close to being as practical as the Golf yet out performed it.

I personally don't see a right or wrong opinion or arguments either way, it's what ultimately suits you which is important, all comparison tests are is a rough guide to possible brands/cars worth considering.

Levi68 · Jul 15, 2010

footie said:
Every roadtest comparison should include practicality if the cars in question are design as everyday modes of transport and offer a more on two seats.

Should the Golf have won? Well that greatly depends on what ever perspective you happen to have, some might view that fact that the Golf got exceedingly close to the 135i in terms of overall performance yet was far more accommodating and practical as reason to give it the win, where as others might view outright performance as the only thing important and see the 135i the winner because it got close to being as practical as the Golf yet out performed it.

I personally don't see a right or wrong opinion or arguments either way, it's what ultimately suits you which is important, all comparison tests are is a rough guide to possible brands/cars worth considering.

You said it!
Audi R8 V8 < BMW M3

klier · Jul 15, 2010

Levi68 said:
You said it!
Audi R8 V8 < BMW M3

That's an 100% absolute given. And of course not just the practical part

And while I agree that a Golf is more practical than an 135i, I still disagree highly with the result. No Golf will ever be better than the 135i. Fact.

NarutoRamen said:
After getting to push the 135i, there is no way in hell I'd choose that other thing.

LMAO, 'that other thing' made me LOL

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