Vs Autoexpress: M3 vs Cayman S vs S5 vs Vauxhall VXR8


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The BMW M3 is a stunning piece of machinery, technically excellent and expertly engineered, with a fabulous engine. So why doesn’t it win? Simple: it doesn’t make the driver feel a key part of the action, and so we ended up admiring the M3, but not loving it. It’s also expensive to buy and run.

That criticism can also be levelled at the smaller and less practical Porsche, although the Cayman S is wonderfully involving and all the components work in perfect harmony, rather than the engine dominating. It takes the victory.

The S5 came close to causing an upset by nearly finishing ahead of the M3. It’s not as fast and sporting as the BMW, but is a sophisticated and capable car that looks good, drives well and is temptingly priced. While the VXR8 is more affordable, the Vauxhall was out of its depth here. Although big and fast, it didn’t come across as particularly well engineered in this company.



1st: Porsche Cayman S
The Cayman S is sublime on all roads and flatters every driver. More involving and rewarding than any rival, it makes the M3 seem flat-footed. Only excessive road noise harms the Porsche’s cruising ability.




2nd: BMW M3
The M3 is a superbly engineered car, with a supple ride, strong, fade-free brakes, exceptional traction and incisive handling. But in this company, it’s slightly unengaging to drive, and only comes alive close to its limits.



3rd: Audi A5
The S5 doesn’t have the RS4’s sporting appeal, but it’s highly competent round corners. The body stays rigid and composed despite occasional suspension intrusion. Overall, it’s an effortless cross-country companion.

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It loosing against the porsche was not the harsh part

this is the harsh part

. So why doesn’t it win? Simple: it doesn’t make the driver feel a key part of the action
 
And that was the essence of the E30 M3.
Shame on BMW, they went too much for the market instead of the enthusiasts.
 
And that was the essence of the E30 M3.
Shame on BMW, they went too much for the market instead of the enthusiasts.

That's where the 1er coupe comes in. Cars are growing in size for every generation so I love the idea of manufacturers creating smaller and less practical cars.
 
lOl, thay even said the S5 came very close to finnishing ahead of the M3!
Thats pretty stunning.

Audi needs to introduce the RS5 and quick.

Market-Demands might be a new drug at the M-Division.

Well a few members on this form believe the S5's a direct competitor against the M3 and not the RS5..:t-crazy2:
 
Yeah I guess it's true.

The Porsche 911, minus some variants, has also been tamed also compared to say the 930/Turbo "widow-maker".
Hence the Cayman/Boxter.

What bugs me is that MB went the other way.
 
Yeah I guess it's true.

The Porsche 911, minus some variants, has also been tamed also compared to say the 930/Turbo "widow-maker".
Hence the Cayman/Boxter.

Yeah. The Cayman is about the same compact size as the 993. Hopefully it won't grow in size with the next generation. Both the 1er coupe and the Cayman will unfortunately not be fully taken advantage of in the form of an uber engine, since they would kick the crap out of their older siblings.

Thankfully the Cayman will be getting direct injection with the face lift coming in a few months, and will hopefully pack 10-25 more hp depending.
 
Haha! Comparing M3 with a Cayman S? Are you kidding me? :t-rot:
Since when are those two in the same class? :t-crazy2:

Anyhow, from that bunch no need say which one i'd take in a heartbeat.

:t-cheers:

PS: S5 looks very nice in 1st Luwalira's post.:usa7uh:
 
Even a Z4M Coupe is more fun than a M3 V8. Its more agiler and nimble than M3.
I testdrove Z4 3.0 , 335i, C350 and E63 AMG the same day and my conclusion was that Z4 was the sportiest car and most fun.

Instead of Cayman Autoexpress could include Z4M and they would get the same result.
 
Haha! Comparing M3 with a Cayman S? Are you kidding me? :t-rot:
Since when are those two in the same class? :t-crazy2:

Anyhow, from that bunch no need say which one i'd take in a heartbeat.

:t-cheers:

PS: S5 looks very nice in 1st Luwalira's post.:usa7uh:

The S5 dows look fantastic. Aggressive but in a mature way, just like an Aston Martin. It's lovely.

Yeah the Cayman shouldn't be there. Even if it one of the best sports cars on the market it ruins it for the other cars. It like doing an XK vs M6 vs CL63 vs R8 comparison. Off course the 100% performance orientated mid-engined car will win.
 
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