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Old 06-16-2009, 10:54 PM   #1
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2009 British GP

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About the British GP

Length 5.141 km
Laps 60 (308.355 Km)
Last Year
1. L. Hamilton
2. N. Heidfeld
3. R. Barrichello
Record Lap M. Schumacher - 1'18''739 (2004, Ferrari)
Record Pole K. Raikkonen - 1'18''233 (2004, McLaren)
Last Year Pole H. Kovalainen - 1'21''049 (McLaren)

Previous winners

Year Driver
2008 L.Hamilton (McLaren)
2007 K.Raikkonen (Ferrari)
2006 F. Alonso (Renault)
2005 J-P. Montoya (McLaren)
2004 M. Schumacher (Ferrari)
2003 R. Barrichello (Ferrari)
2002 M. Schumacher (Ferrari)
2001 M. Hakkinen (McLaren)
2000 D. Coulthard (McLaren)
1999 D. Coulthard (McLaren)
1998 M. Schumacher (Ferrari)
1997 J. Villeneuve (Williams)
1996 J. Villeneuve (Williams)
1995 J. Herbert (Benetton)
1994 D. Hill (Williams)
1993 A. Prost (Williams)
1992 N. Mansell (Williams)
1991 N. Mansell (Williams)
1990 A. Prost (Ferrari)
1989 A. Prost (McLaren)
1988 A. Senna (McLaren)


Button fired up for home grand prix



Jenson Button is looking forward to his home British Grand Prix this weekend, as the Brawn driver looks to extend his superb run of victories.
The Briton has won six of the first seven races of the season and will arrive at Silverstone as the clear championship favourite for the first time in his career.

"The British Grand Prix is always an amazing weekend and I can't wait to race at Silverstone in front of our home fans on Sunday," said Button in a team preview.

"To be leading the championship going into my home grand prix is something that I've never experienced before and it puts a smile on my face every time I think about it.

"I've raced at Silverstone from some fairly tough positions in the past but the fans have always been so supportive and I'd love to give them a performance that they can really enjoy this weekend.

"We took a good step forward with the balance of our car in Turkey but know that our closest competitors are going to be good in the high-speed corners so it will be an interesting weekend. If we come away with a good result, I'll be so happy on Sunday!"

Button admitted, however, that he is sorry it will be his last race at Silverstone, which will make way for Donington from next year.
"It's strange to think that this might be our last race at Silverstone and I can't imagine not having a British Grand Prix so we'll be going all out to put on a fantastic show."

Team-mate Rubens Barrichello is also fired up for the British race, the Brazilian a big fan of the Silverstone circuit.
"Silverstone is one of my all-time favourite circuits and I absolutely love racing there," he said. "The track is fantastic as it is one of the few remaining on the calendar that are high-speed, fast-flowing and really allow you to let the car go through the quick corners.

"My win here in 2003 was really special and it's fantastic to be returning this year with a car that has the potential to compete for the victory.

"There's a lot of expectation going into the weekend as our team's home grand prix but we will remain calm and just focus on doing the best job that we possibly can."

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Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Vettel Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:19.400 20
2. Webber Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:19.682 + 0.282 19
3. Button Brawn-Mercedes (B) 1:20.227 + 0.827 20
4. Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes (B) 1:20.242 + 0.842 29
5. Alonso Renault (B) 1:20.458 + 1.058 26
6. Massa Ferrari (B) 1:20.471 + 1.071 23
7. Trulli Toyota (B) 1:20.585 + 1.185 32
8. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:20.650 + 1.250 26
9. Rosberg Williams-Toyota (B) 1:20.815 + 1.415 32
10. Fisichella Force India-Mercedes (B) 1:20.838 + 1.438 25
11. Sutil Force India-Mercedes (B) 1:20.913 + 1.513 22
12. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:21.029 + 1.629 22
13. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber (B) 1:21.103 + 1.703 24
14. Raikkonen Ferrari (B) 1:21.179 + 1.779 27
15. Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:21.384 + 1.984 23
16. Glock Toyota (B) 1:21.386 + 1.986 32
17. Nakajima Williams-Toyota (B) 1:21.489 + 2.089 26
18. Piquet Renault (B) 1:21.525 + 2.125 30
19. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:21.590 + 2.190 37
20. Kubica BMW-Sauber (B) 1:21.801 + 2.401 16

FP 2
Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Vettel Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:19.456 39
2. Webber Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:19.597 + 0.141 35
3. Sutil Force India-Mercedes (B) 1:20.141 + 0.685 41
4. Nakajima Williams-Toyota (B) 1:20.209 + 0.753 36
5. Alonso Renault (B) 1:20.237 + 0.781 36
6. Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes (B) 1:20.244 + 0.788 26
7. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:20.417 + 0.961 35
8. Trulli Toyota (B) 1:20.458 + 1.002 40
9. Rosberg Williams-Toyota (B) 1:20.468 + 1.012 42
10. Piquet Renault (B) 1:20.608 + 1.152 37
11. Kubica BMW-Sauber (B) 1:20.622 + 1.166 23
12. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:20.733 + 1.277 37
13. Glock Toyota (B) 1:20.762 + 1.306 37
14. Button Brawn-Mercedes (B) 1:20.767 + 1.311 28
15. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber (B) 1:20.932 + 1.476 35
16. Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:20.945 + 1.489 36
17. Massa Ferrari (B) 1:21.005 + 1.549 37
18. Raikkonen Ferrari (B) 1:21.132 + 1.676 38
19. Fisichella Force India-Mercedes (B) 1:21.413 + 1.957 40
20. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:21.668 + 2.212 37






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Nice to see Hamilton in top ten. Hopefully he'll at least managed to push the car to Q2. Other than that it will be an all Brawn weekend again. There's nothing to stop them.
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Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Rosberg Williams-Toyota (B) 1:18.899 20
2. Nakajima Williams-Toyota (B) 1:19.102 + 0.203 19
3. Trulli Toyota (B) 1:19.125 + 0.226 15
4. Vettel Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:19.371 + 0.472 15
5. Massa Ferrari (B) 1:19.596 + 0.697 19
6. Raikkonen Ferrari (B) 1:19.855 + 0.956 13
7. Glock Toyota (B) 1:19.868 + 0.969 19
8. Alonso Renault (B) 1:19.917 + 1.018 14
9. Webber Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:19.946 + 1.047 15
10. Barrichello Brawn GP-Mercedes (B) 1:20.028 + 1.129 14
11. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:20.048 + 1.149 16
12. Button Brawn GP-Mercedes (B) 1:20.157 + 1.258 17
13. Piquet Renault (B) 1:20.232 + 1.333 18
14. Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:20.459 + 1.560 17
15. Sutil Force India-Mercedes (B) 1:20.548 + 1.649 15
16. Fisichella Force India-Mercedes (B) 1:20.572 + 1.673 17
17. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:20.638 + 1.739 18
18. Heidfeld BMW Sauber (B) 1:20.696 + 1.797 20
19. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:21.024 + 2.125 11
20. Kubica BMW Sauber (B) 1:21.039 + 2.140 13
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I think that BMW stoped developpement of this year car.
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I think that BMW stoped developpement of this year car.
Should be really interesting what will happen next…
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Qual.
Pos Driver Team Q1 Q2 Q3
1. Vettel Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:18.685 1:18.119 1:19.509
2. Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes (B) 1:19.325 1:18.335 1:19.856
3. Webber Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:18.674 1:18.209 1:19.868
4. Trulli Toyota (B) 1:18.886 1:18.240 1:20.091
5. Nakajima Williams-Toyota (B) 1:18.530 1:18.575 1:20.216
6. Button Brawn-Mercedes (B) 1:18.957 1:18.663 1:20.289
7. Rosberg Williams-Toyota (B) 1:19.228 1:18.591 1:20.361
8. Glock Toyota (B) 1:19.198 1:18.791 1:20.490
9. Raikkonen Ferrari (B) 1:19.010 1:18.566 1:20.715
10. Alonso Renault (B) 1:19.167 1:18.761 1:20.741
11. Massa Ferrari (B) 1:19.148 1:18.927
12. Kubica BMW-Sauber (B) 1:19.730 1:19.308
13. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:19.732 1:19.353
14. Piquet Renault (B) 1:19.555 1:19.392
15. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber (B) 1:19.559 1:19.448
16. Fisichella Force India-Mercedes (B) 1:19.802
17. Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:19.898
18. Sutil Force India-Mercedes (B) 1:19.909
19. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:19.917
20. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:20.236
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Great to see Vettel on the Pole again!! Hope he has more luck this time! Well, goodybe Mercedes, Ferrari and BMW! It looks like they can produce good F1-engines (see Brawn GP), but with their cars…well, that's another story.
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Although Vettel is on pole, we all know that there is a 90% chance of a Brawn car winning the race. Button can very well beat the rest on strategy and win.
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Although Vettel is on pole, we all know that there is a 90% chance of a Brawn car winning the race. Button can very well beat the rest on strategy and win.
If it's a Brawn winning, t will be definitely be Rubens. I don't see Jense winning this one. 2 reasons :

1) he was struggling since practice, and just like the Ferraris, he wasn't 100% happy with the car's balance and speed.

2) He's dad is not using the usual pink polo and white pants
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God, there's no passing what so ever.

This is boring as hell.

Those who wanted TC, ABS and active suspensions banned, spec tires and restricted engines I hope they're happy now with Formula "driver skill, cost efficiency, level the playing field, better racing" boredom.

How much more boring is it gonna be next year with equal fuel loads I wonder ?!

Webber, Rosberg, Button, Alonso, Hamilton none of them can do a thing.

It's so boring.
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PROVISIONAL RACE RESULTS
The British Grand Prix
Silverstone, Britain;
60 laps; 308.355km;
Weather: Dry.
Classified:
Pos Driver Team Time
1. Vettel Red Bull-Renault (B) 1h22:49.328
2. Webber Red Bull-Renault (B) + 15.188
3. Barrichello Brawn GP-Mercedes (B) + 41.175
4. Massa Ferrari (B) + 45.043
5. Rosberg Williams-Toyota (B) + 45.915
6. Button Brawn GP-Mercedes (B) + 46.285
7. Trulli Toyota (B) + 1:08.307
8. Raikkonen Ferrari (B) + 1:09.622
9. Glock Toyota (B) + 1:09.823
10. Fisichella Force India-Mercedes (B) + 1:11.522
11. Nakajima Williams-Toyota (B) + 1:14.023
12. Piquet Renault (B) + 1 lap
13. Kubica BMW Sauber (B) + 1 lap
14. Alonso Renault (B) + 1 lap
15. Heidfeld BMW Sauber (B) + 1 lap
16. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes (B) + 1 lap
17. Sutil Force India-Mercedes (B) + 1 lap
18. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) + 1 lap
Fastest lap: Vettel, 1:20.735
Not classified/retirements
Driver Team On lap
Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 25
Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes (B) 24

World Championship standings, round 8:
Drivers:
1. Button 64
2. Barrichello 41
3. Vettel 39
4. Webber 35.5
5. Trulli 21.5
6. Massa 16
7. Rosberg 15.5
8. Glock 13
9. Alonso 11
10. Raikkonen 10
11. Hamilton 9
12. Heidfeld 6
13. Kovalainen 4
14. Buemi 3
15. Kubica 2
16. Bourdais 2

Constructors:
1. Brawn GP-Mercedes 105
2. Red Bull-Renault 74.5
3. Toyota 34.5
4. Ferrari 26
5. Williams-Toyota 15.5
6. McLaren-Mercedes 13
7. Renault 11
8. BMW Sauber 8
9. Toro Rosso-Ferrari 5
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boring ?
who would have thought that red bull can be so dominant after the past races. the updated car is another masterpiece from adrian newy. brawn's had to fight against the low temperatures, but i guess even with temperatures above 30 degree the brawns would have had a hard time against the red bulls.
funny that a renault engine won, but alonso could hardly overtake a damaged bmw.
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I'm more happy for F1 than what I am for Vettel -- a Brawn victory this weekend would have been devastating for the championship. But still, this season is still Zzzzzzzzzzzz, especially when all the former champions are struggling in the midfield like rookies. There's just no excitement what so ever, like watching division 3 soccer.
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I'm more happy for F1 than what I am for Vettel -- a Brawn victory this weekend would have been devastating for the championship. But still, this season is still Zzzzzzzzzzzz, especially when all the former champions are struggling in the midfield like rookies. There's just no excitement what so ever, like watching division 3 soccer.


True.

They need to get rid of these crappy cars, rev limited engines (it really killed this race) and crappy Flintstone tires.
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boring ?
who would have thought that red bull can be so dominant after the past races. the updated car is another masterpiece from adrian newy. brawn's had to fight against the low temperatures, but i guess even with temperatures above 30 degree the brawns would have had a hard time against the red bulls.
funny that a renault engine won, but alonso could hardly overtake a damaged bmw.


Martin Brundle made a good point about the car's engines hitting the rev limiter when they get in the slipstream at the end of the straights.
All these restrictive rules that are ruining up the sport.
Even in the un-restricted V10 era with grooved tyres, the overtaking was better than this.
Look at 2003 for example.
The engine rules need to go out of the window and we need to bring back un-restricted V10/V8s or the sport needs to adopt turbo-charged engines with adjustable boost.

This crap cannot go on.
For every thing they improve (slicks), they mess 2 or 3 things up (engines, tires, electronics).
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Diffuser cars not allowing overtaking - Massa
Racing series F1
Date 2009-06-22

By Motorsport.com/GMM

F1's new-look cars of 2009 are travelling more closely together, but it seems they are no easier than before to overtake with.

After the British Grand Prix, it was the double diffuser in the spotlight for spoiling the efforts of the Technical Working Group to radically amend this year's cars for the benefit of the spectacle.

"Just as was planned by the FIA, the cars did produce less downforce," said Ferrari's Felipe Massa.

"But with the decision to allow the double diffusers, this plan was turned upside down," the Brazilian told Auto Motor und Sport.

Toyota's Timo Glock adds that even the moveable front flaps this year are not providing a benefit to aid overtaking.

"When you're in the turbulence of the cars ahead, all your grip is lost. You're sliding on all four wheels," the German said.



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These DD diffusers and the rev limit really mess up the racing.
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F1's new-look cars of 2009 are travelling more closely together, but it seems they are no easier than before to overtake with.

After the British Grand Prix, it was the double diffuser in the spotlight for spoiling the efforts of the Technical Working Group to radically amend this year's cars for the benefit of the spectacle.

"Just as was planned by the FIA, the cars did produce less downforce," said Ferrari's Felipe Massa.

"But with the decision to allow the double diffusers, this plan was turned upside down," the Brazilian told Auto Motor und Sport.

Toyota's Timo Glock adds that even the moveable front flaps this year are not providing a benefit to aid overtaking.

"When you're in the turbulence of the cars ahead, all your grip is lost. You're sliding on all four wheels," the German said.



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These DD diffusers and the rev limit really mess up the racing.

Another reason for the breakaway series to happen...
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