F1 2008 Spanish GP

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Bartek S.

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Barcelona: Technical view

The Grand Prix circuit near Barcelona is one that every F1 team knows well from the thousands of kilometres of testing carried out there over the winter.

Few venues offer such a variety of medium and high-speed corners and it is widely acknowledged as the definitive aero circuit that provides a stern test of a Formula 1 car. With few big braking zones and so many high-speed corners, overtaking remains extremely difficult and a good qualifying performance and sensible strategy are paramount for a successful weekend.
Aerodynamics
Aerodynamic efficiency is always a key factor at Barcelona, although the introduction of the new chicane last year has replaced on of the most critical high-speed parts of the lap and means the track is not as demanding as it once was. Even so, the circuit remains the ultimate test of a car's aero package and teams will run with high downforce levels to ensure competitiveness over the whole lap.
Suspension
With the suspension we have to find the best compromise to give the drivers a well balanced and responsive car. This means we will use relatively stiff settings at the front of the car to get a good change of direction, while the rear will be slightly softer in order to get the best possible traction out of the slower corners. This will be especially important this year with the removal of traction control. Ride height is also an important parameter to consider as generally we can run the car quite low in order to gain maximum aerodynamic performance.
Engine Performance
Barcelona is not generally thought of as an engine circuit' as the engine is not under particular stress as any point and only 62% of the lap is spent on full throttle. There are relatively few hard acceleration zones from low revs as the engine spends most of the lap accelerating from the middle of the rev range. As such, the priority is for the power delivery to be progressive and driveable in order to maintain the best handling balance, and limit tyre wear.
Tyres
Barcelona is well known for being a demanding on tyre wear because it includes so many long, high-speed corners and has a fairly abrasive track surface. The tyres are therefore under high loadings, particularly the front left which has to work hard in the quick right-hand corners such as Turns 3 and 9. As a result Bridgestone will supply hard and medium compound tyres for the weekend, and the team will need to pay close attention to the wear and degradation during free practice to determine which compound to run the majority of the race with.
Renault F1 / Eurosport
 
IMO, they wasted their time with the last corner of the track. or is it the penultimate corner...
 
Apparently the other spanish GP's future is uncertain.

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EU to investigate Valencia GP contract

By Pablo Elizalde Tuesday, April 22nd 2008, 10:11 GMT

The European Union's Commissioner for Environment, Stavros Dimas, will investigate possible irregularities in the project to build Valencia's new street circuit.

Dimas said he will look into "possible irregularities of the EU's public contract rules in the bidding process," Spanish news agency EFE reports.

The investigation will come as a result of questions asked by members of Green group David Hammerstein, Raul Romeva and Monica Frassoni.

It is also reported that there could be an investigation over the noise levels reached during the race weekend.

"With the hurry, it is possible that El Consell (Valencian government) has not done its homework regarding transparency and noise," Hammerstein was quoted as saying by EFE.

"Formula One's speed excess could create serious problems to the Valencian Government to comply with European law."

The new circuit will host the European Grand Prix on 24 August this year.
 
The citizens of Valencia are in for a very noisy weekend in August: pre-race events, free practice x 3, qualification and the race itself. Will the circuit host GP2 as well?

Let's just hope that the noise level won't make the Spanish motorsport association in pressuring FIA to changing the regulation by limiting the rev level, for the sake of keeping Valencia GP on the calendar. On the other hand I don't think that Bernie cares too much for Valencia GP since he has a handful of homies in the middle east ready to host a GP in the near future.
 
Just look at these "tents" set up in Barcelona. No wonder F1 is an expensive sport.

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Waouw, Villaj is damn serious, this thing is about as big as the McLaren Technology center.

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Edit: We could have the first wet race of the season this week end.
 
Yeah Force India's complex is pretty astounding considering how small the team is, the complex even has a 360 degree balcony at the top. Yupp, I've read about the rain as well, combine that with the fact that Barcelona is a very demanding track, we might end up with a very adventurous race.
 
Kovalainen was quoted on Friday saying that they had to do a gearbox change so I believe that means he'll get a five place grid penalty.
 
FP 1
P. Driver Team Time
1. Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari1:20.649
2. Felipe Massa Ferrari 0:00.050
3. Lewis Hamilton McLaren 0:00.543
4. Robert Kubica BMW 0:00.919
5. Heikki Kovalainen McLaren 0:01.109
6. Fernando Alonso Renault 0:01.284
7. Nelsinho Piquet Jr Renault 0:01.287
8. David Coulthard Red Bull 0:01.469
9. Nick Heidfeld BMW 0:01.629
10. Jenson Button Honda 0:01.983
11. Timo Glock Toyota 0:02.353
12. Nico Rosberg Williams 0:02.354
13. Mark Webber Red Bull 0:02.366
14. Jarno Trulli Toyota 0:02.492
15. Kazuki Nakajima Williams 0:02.504
16. Adrian Sutil Force India 0:02.507
17. Giancarlo Fisichella Force India 0:02.547
18. Rubens Barrichello Honda 0:02.704
19. Sebastien Bourdais Toro Rosso 0:03.303
20. Sebastien Vettel Toro Rosso 0:03.433
21. Takuma Sato Super Aguri 0:03.629
22. Anthony Davidson Super Aguri 0:04.419
 
FP 2
1. Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari 1:21.935
2. Nelsinho Piquet Jr Renault 0:00.084
3. Fernando Alonso Renault 0:00.097
4. Kazuki Nakajima Williams 0:00.237
5. Felipe Massa Ferrari 0:00.294
6. Mark Webber Red Bull 0:00.303
7. Nico Rosberg Williams 0:00.331
8. David Coulthard Red Bull 0:00.354
9. Giancarlo Fisichella Force India 0:00.448
10. Adrian Sutil Force India 0:00.613
11. Lewis Hamilton McLaren 0:00.750
12. Robert Kubica BMW 0:00.853
13. Nick Heidfeld BMW 0:01.195
14. Jarno Trulli Toyota 0:01.289
15. Jenson Button Honda 0:01.328
16. Heikki Kovalainen McLaren 0:01.329
17. Rubens Barrichello Honda 0:01.480
18. Sebastien Vettel Toro Rosso 0:01.726
19. Sebastien Bourdais Toro Rosso 0:01.749
20. Timo Glock Toyota 0:01.948
21. Takuma Sato Super Aguri 0:03.175
22. Anthony Davidson Super Aguri 0:03.228
 
FP 3
1. Nick Heidfeld BMW 1:21.269
2. David Coulthard Red Bull 0:00.196
3. Fernando Alonso Renault 0:00.330
4. Robert Kubica BMW 0:00.448
5. Jarno Trulli Toyota 0:00.502
6. Sebastien Bourdais Toro Rosso 0:00.673
7. Nelsinho Piquet Jr Renault 0:00.723
8. Jenson Button Honda 0:00.791
9. Felipe Massa Ferrari 0:00.806
10. Timo Glock Toyota 0:00.812
11. Lewis Hamilton McLaren 0:00.825
12. Nico Rosberg Williams 0:00.905
13. Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari 0:00.907
14. Kazuki Nakajima Williams 0:00.920
15. Heikki Kovalainen McLaren 0:00.951
16. Sebastien Vettel Toro Rosso 0:01.023
17. Rubens Barrichello Honda 0:01.081
18. Giancarlo Fisichella Force India 0:01.197
19. Adrian Sutil Force India 0:01.857
20. Takuma Sato Super Aguri 0:02.457
21. Anthony Davidson Super Aguri 0:02.652
22. Mark Webber Red Bull
 
Holy Batman!! Alonso on P2, that was very unexpected. I guess Flavio wasn't bullshitting when he said that Renault would find their pace in Barcelona. Mclaren seem to have problem with finding the right setup for the car, it lacks a little pace. That will prove to be big problem, especially now there BMW and Renault are officially in the game. Very competitive top end with 6 very fast drivers. For Mclaren to win the championship or Hamilton to win WDC, the team has a lot of work ahead of them and the car, fuel and tyre strategy all has to click.
 
Ok this is a surprise, Alonso 2nd, even if he is on super light fuel, that is better than expected.
 
Qual.
1. Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari 1 21 816
2. Fernando Alonso Renault
3. Felipe Massa Ferrari
4. Robert Kubica BMW
5. Lewis Hamilton McLaren
6. Heikki Kovalainen McLaren
7. Mark Webber Red Bull
8. Jarno Trulli Toyota
9. Nick Heidfeld BMW
10. Nelsinho Piquet Jr Renault
11. Rubens Barrichello Honda
12. Kazuki Nakajima Williams
13. Jenson Button Honda
14. Timo Glock Toyota
15. Nico Rosberg Williams
16. Sebastien Bourdais Toro Rosso
17. David Coulthard Red Bull
18. Sebastien Vettel Toro Rosso
19. Giancarlo Fisichella Force India
20. Adrian Sutil Force India
21. Anthony Davidson Super Aguri
22. Takuma Sato Super Aguri
 
Yeah Alonso was most likely running very light. What's left to see is if the car can endure and if he can't maintain the pace throughout the race without wearing out the tires. Sadly it might end up being a pretty boring race with Kimi trailing off while the rest get stuck behind the Renault Clio. Barcelona is a circuit with hills and a lot of fast corners making it incredibly risky or even stupid for anyone to attempt overtaking. As I see it most action will be occurring at and start and in the first corner. So all we can hope for is...............................rain. :D
 
Oh baby Hamilton is totally out without Alonso, no surprise for me.
 
James Allen has mentioned that the team lack an experienced race driver to develope the car, and maybe this is true, looking at the current form of the team.

He's right. Pedro's, Heikki's and Hamilton's accumulated race experience is minor compared with Ferrari, BMW and Alonso. The two semi-rockies have very little experience setting up a car, that it whey they both are out of the top 3 today not fully satisfied with the car. And it's not like Mclaren is gambling by running with more fuel planning a one stopper of some sort, we all know they suck when it comes to fuel strategies. That is the number one reason why Hamilton never win a race unless he qualifies to P1. Mclaren seriously need to sort that out if they want to win this year.

Hamilton is very good car launcher and attacker in the first coners. So if he is to put on a good performance tomorrow then that's where the magic will occur.
 

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