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siko · 08-04-2007, 11:09 AM

I've always wanted to quantify the difference between different racing series. So if you ever wondered what's the performance difference between F1, Champ Cars and NASCAR... well now you can.

As of this year, all three racing series will have run at the same circuit: Circuit Gilles Villeneuve, right here in my backyard.

So here are some times to compare...

F1

Fastest Laps

1:13.622 Rubens Barrichello (2004) - Lap record
1:16.367 Fernando Alonso (2007)

Lowest top lap

1:20.092 Scott Speed, STR-Ferrari (2007)

Champ Car

Fastest Laps

1:20.238 Dario Franchitti (2002)
1:22.325 Sebastien Bourdais (2006)

NASCAR (Busch series)

Fastest Laps

1:43.198 Ron Fellows (2007) - from this weekend's practice sessions

Imhotep Evil · 08-04-2007, 11:15 AM

Had it not been for regulations that constantly retarded the F1 cars since 2004 we'd be a lot faster.

This stagnation in lap times (2004 to 2007) is the biggest stagnation in GP
racing history since 1939/WWII/post WWII F1 period.

Bernie and Max are going up against WWII, unbelivable but true.

BTW these are short stints. On overall pace the F1 cars would be a lot better than these times indicate.

siko · 08-04-2007, 01:18 PM

I added the quals times for NASCAR which are currently being held.

It's weird that they managed to drop 40 secs from the practice runs !?

This makes 'em faster by a whole 10 sec. vs F1 cars around the same track... I would have never thought that ?!

Nikos120i · 08-04-2007, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siko

NASCAR (Busch series)

Fastest Laps

1:03"071 Robby Gordon (2007) - from this weekend's quals
1:43.198 Ron Fellows (2007) - from this weekend's practice sessions

Are you sure about that?? I think you have made a mistake...maybe you mean 1:43.071. There is no way a NASCAR car is faster by 30 seconds from an F1 car.

Imhotep Evil · 08-04-2007, 01:30 PM

My point exactly.

siko · 08-04-2007, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikos120i

Are you sure about that?? I think you have made a mistake...maybe you mean 1:43.071. There is no way a NASCAR car is faster by 30 seconds from an F1 car.

I know it seems weird and I'm very confused by how they can shave off 40 seconds between yesterday and today!

But I took the times from NASCAR.COM

... the only explanation I can come up with is that for the quals they are not timing the whole lap.

siko · 08-04-2007, 05:58 PM

FALSE ALARM... simply put, I'm an idiot!

NASCAR puts their times in seconds (103.071) and when I copy+paste I mistook it for 1:03.71...

So in reality 103.071 = 1:43.071 !!!

It all makes sense now!

MoSs AMG · 08-04-2007, 06:15 PM

lol now that makes more sence to me

NarutoRamen · 08-04-2007, 11:11 PM

Ha ha ha...I think the world would come to an end before Nascar beats an F1 car's time. LOL

bmer · 08-05-2007, 06:50 AM

How fast are IRL cars compared to Champ Car?

Nikos120i · 08-05-2007, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siko

FALSE ALARM... simply put, I'm an idiot!

NASCAR puts their times in seconds (103.071) and when I copy+paste I mistook it for 1:03.71...

So in reality 103.071 = 1:43.071 !!!

It all makes sense now!

Great you cleared it up now!

siko · 08-07-2007, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NarutoRamen

Ha ha ha...I think the world would come to an end before Nascar beats an F1 car's time. LOL

That's why I started to panic... the 7th sign of the apocalypse!

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F1 vs Champ Car vs NASCAR – lap times compared