ROAD TESTS Mercedes-Benz A-class (2013) First Drives/Reviews Thread

Discussion in 'A-Class, B-Class, CLA-Class' started by Human, Mar 30, 2012.

  1. martinbo Global Moderator / Editor

    Autocar review here: http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/first-drives/first-drive-review-mercedes-class

  2. K-A Banned

    "It’s far more expressive than that of the 1-series and A3. However, glaring shut line unevenness, especially within the front end where the bonnet meets the fenders and around the top end of the grille, left us wondering if Mercedes had suddenly taken leave of its usual attention to quality. For a car described as being premium, the panel fit is very ordinary."

    Lovely. So it has shoddy fit and finish inside and out (if you combine both reviews), sub-par materials, and a heavy handed design. M-B obviously wanted to make a statement with the design, and will seemingly reserve their top notch fit and quality for the higher models. The exposed metal on the B-PIllars is a joke. As Human said, even Ford and Chevy are moving past that and covering them up with much more classy plastic pieces. As for the comments about the fitment around the front, that is one of the many things I hate about softnose front ends, the fit is always an eye sore. Even on BMW's, etc. the panel gap separating the hood to bumper is always crude. Looks like M-B managed to include the fenders in that story as well?
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  3. Merc1 Premium Member

    1-Series is RWD so of course it won't handle/drive like that, but the Audi part is a somewhat of a letdown. I suspect the fit of the body panels will be address before cars are delivered. Lord help them if the baby CLS shows up in the U.S. to this kind of review.

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  5. PHYBENZ Well-Known Member

    Dissapointing to hear the interior has cheap materials.
  6. Monster Global Moderator

    At this price segment, it can't be avoided, as long as it is on par with its competitors then it is still acceptable. I have been inside the B-class, the perceived quality is high but once you start looking into the details and have a feel of the various materials then you will discover the use of hard plastics on the lower part of the dashboard and the tunnel between the front seat.
  7. stanch86 Member

    From Top Gear:



    First drive: the new Mercedes A-Class

    The new A-Class may be better looking than its predecessor, but how does it drive?
    Posted by: Sam Philip, 27 June 2012
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    What's this, then?
    It's the new Mercedes A-Class.

    That's not an A-Class. The A-Class is a tall, boxy thing.
    You're right. The last A-Class was an oddity - a mini-MPV big on practicality but short on desirability or driveability. Don't think of this car as a descendent of the old A: it's an entirely different concept, for Mercedes at least. Lower, wider and far sleeker than its predecessor, you're looking at a conventional five-door, front-wheel drive hatchback, an on-the-nose rival for the Audi A3 Sportback.

    It looks a bit more exciting than an A3.
    It does indeed. There's a LOT going on with this design: rising swage lines, bonnet creases, LED clusters, gun turrets...

    Gun turrets?
    OK, I lied about the gun turrets. But in the metal it looks good, especially with the optional big wheels, black gloss bits, pointy ‘Sport' grille and giganto-sunroof. Merc dealers will be rubbing their hands in glee as potential customers peruse the options list.

    So what's it like to drive?
    Mercedes-ish. In a good way. If you're after a lithe, snappy rival to the BMW 1-Series, look elsewhere: Mercedes has taken quite a different tack. The A-Class feels brilliantly solid and expensive: not bulky, just superbly built and cosseting.

    In the cabin, you're isolated from the outside world to an astonishing degree. Road and wind noise are near non-existent, the A-Class hushing along like a far bigger, pricier machine. Bumps are absorbed expertly, miles are devoured like plankton by a big... metal whale. That metaphor sort of unravelled as it went along, didn't it?

    It is very, very quiet though. We mainly drove the mid-range A200 CDI, a 1.8-litre diesel, and kept bashing it into the rev limiter. Not because the four-cylinder diesel is particularly low-revving, but because you're so insulated from its chunter that you've no idea it's reaching its redline.

    But is the A-Class fun to drive?
    Yes, in its own way. With multi-link rear suspension and quick, accurate steering, the A-Class is a nicely balanced thing to chuck down a country road, but the front tyres run out of grip quickly and the whole experience is a touch remote. Still - and we'd have to get them side-by-side to be sure - we'd venture it's more natural and involving than the new Audi A3.

    Is there a flame-throwing AMG version, then?
    Not yet, but there will be. A 330bhp ‘A45' AMG model is in the pipeline, but for now the most potent petrol you can get is the A250 BlueEfficiency, a 2.0-litre turbo making 211bhp.

    Sounds tasty?
    It isn't, really. Lovely and smooth, but in no way a hot hatch. We'd stick to the diesels: as well as the 136bhp A200 CDI (66bhp and 114g/km of CO2), there's the super-frugal A180 CDI, which emits just 98g/km of CO2 if you have it with the six-speed manual, and a more powerful A220 CDI. The mid-range A200 is powerful enough, in truth, and felt the sweetest.

    Bet it's nice on the inside.
    Yes it is. Very nice. The A-Class neatly melds the austere elegance of bigger Benzes with a gently schporty twist, with fat metal air vents inspired by the SLS, wavy surfaces and masses of soft-touch plastics and posh leather. We couldn't lay our hands on a truly base-spec A, but even the cheapest models will get nice seats, a big colour display and lots of electronic goodies.


    So what's the catch?
    Well, it isn't as practical as the blocky old A-Class. The rear seats are just about acceptable for six-footers - just about - and boot space is compromised by the big light clusters.

    But there's a B-Class on the way for those who want a bit more space from their micro-Merc. Maybe the biggest criticism we can throw at the A-Class is that, for the smallest, lightest Mercedes, it doesn't offer real fingertip involvement. Put it this way: we actually preferred driving the A-Class with 16-inch wheels and ‘comfort' chassis than the version with stiffer springs and bigger alloys. This made us feel a bit odd.

    But think of it as a mini C-Class saloon, a posh, easy-going Merc that'll fit in city parking spaces and give you change from £20,000 if you don't mind a dinky petrol and go easy on the options list, and you'll get on just fine. It's not a madcap hot hatch, the A-Class, but it's a lovely thing.

    SCORE: 8/10

    A200 CDI BlueEfficiency: from £23,270

    http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/first-drive-the-new-mercedes-a-class-2012-06-27
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  8. Gianclaudio Well-Known Member

    Top gear reports the opposite... You really have to take reviews with a pinch of salt. I'm looking forward to see and examine this car in person, specially to see if Audiexpreess, sorry, Autoexpress claims about korean car grade interior are true. (I don't think so)

    Regards!
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  9. K-A Banned

    Top Gear reviews are the most selfish and bias, indeed. So many other reviewers on this same very car have given so much more in depth information. I feel as if T.G reviewers, especially in the Mags (as you can't gauge them from their personalities as you can on camera), like or dislike a car based on how their mood is in that day. Sometimes they'll pan a great car as if they're on the rag, or they'll simply like a car and not give much more reason other than "because I do".

    They reported the A-Class materials are first class, while everybody else has been panning various cheap materials and design fitments (dashboard design not melting into the door, which is a crude aesthetic inside a car)? Now I'm wondering just who's right.
  10. fortuner Well-Known Member

    I sat in a B class when i went to collect my M class now from my view the B and A should be similar or same standard...And all in all i can say eh B class had a lovely interior the Quality was perfect for its class almost on par to a C class just a bit behind...I didn't like the rear seat way it was fitted i don't think it would be a nice ride for long distance sitting in the back.I really like the interior very fresh and i am sure the young people will love it...The quality i really found no faults...Its way ahead of the previous generation in looks and quality all round i think MB have a hit on their hands.
  11. Human BMW's my Brand

    One thing that does stand out it DOES drive and feel like a Benz - period. Good then;)(y)
  12. Bilal Well-Known Member

    What the motoring press and indeed us afficionados may not have realised, (I suspect), is that Mercedes-Benz has committed a cardinal sin that it hoped would not be noticed...

    The new A and B Class have been fitted with RunFlat tyres!
  13. Human BMW's my Brand

    Mercedes A-Class

    The new Mercedes A-Class is now a proper rival to Audi A3 and BMW 1 Series. Gone is the dumpy mini MPV, replaced by a stylish five-door hatchback

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    • For: Great to look at, comfortable to drive, clever tech
    • Against: Iffy quality, firm ride;)
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    With downsizing all the rage among posh hatch buyers, Mercedes old A-Class couldn’t cut the mustard. This new model, with Mercedes mentioning the word ‘youth’ at every opportunity, is more dynamic to look at and to drive, and clearly aimed at a younger audience. There’s a broad range of petrol and diesel engines, and a wide range of trim options, including two sport versions of each car. However, the A-Class isn’t as sporty as a 1 Series, it’s a typical Merc valuing comfort more highly, but still being decent fun to drive.

    Styling

    Mercedes ‘clean sheet’ approach to the new A-Class means the latest model bears no resemblance to the old car – it’s considerably lower, and longer and wider, too. Mercedes’ designers have produced a stunning looking small hatchback, a world away from the upright mini-MPV predecessor. It’s more striking than the same again A3, and more dashing than the ugly duckling 1 Series. Only Volvo’s V40 gets close to the A-Class’s catwalk looks. Inside it’s similarly stylish, with a great looking, easy to use dash. But the meeting of dash with doors looks slightly ungainly, as though two designers didn’t talk.

    Driving and Performance

    With SE, Sport and AMG Sport trim levels, plus the top-of-the-range A250 model being badged ‘engineered by AMG’ it’s clear that Mercedes is aiming at BMW’s 1 Series with the A-Class. However, the A-Class drives like a Merc, meaning it’s decently sporting, but without the dynamic edge that makes BMWs so special. It’s slightly more comfortable over bumps, while the steering isn’t as sharp, although grip levels are high. It’s a quiet car, though, and that’s immediately noticeable the moment you start the engine and drive off, while top model aside, performance isn’t exactly scintillating.

    MPG and running costs

    The A180 CDI is Mercedes’ first model to dip below the 100g/km barrier, while the other diesels are reasonably efficient, too. So running costs should be as low as downsizers stepping into this premium small hatch class would expect – even the petrol models are reasonably efficient. Every model gets stop/start, while the slick-shifting double-clutch gearbox also posts better economy figures than the manual models. Although the A-Class slightly undercuts its posh rivals, check specs because it’s not especially generously equipped.

    Practicality

    The penalty of Mercedes’ shift from Mini MPV to super-stylish hatchback is practicality – especially the boot. It’s over 90 litres smaller than in its predecessor’s and smaller than a BMW 1 Series’ or Audi A3’s boot, too. As you’d expect, because the car is lower, you’re now getting down into an A-Class, although rear legroom is still okay. Headroom is good, too, although the roof narrows at each side and the rising waistline means you can feel a bit hemmed in. Over the shoulder visibility is none too special, either.

    Safety and reliability

    Mercedes has long lead the world when it comes to safety, and the new A-Class continues that tradition. Every model comes with Collision Prevention Assistance, but it’s not a fill autonomous braking system – it won’t entirely prevent you from hitting the car in front. Pre-safe, which prepares you and the car for an impending accident, and plenty of other high-tech is available, much of it rolling down from the S-Class. But much of it is on the options list and not standard. Mercedes continual strong showing in our Driver Power survey suggests there shouldn’t be reliability issues with the A-Class.Read


  14. liam333 Member

    hmm so its a comfortable car with firm ride o_O
  15. Giannis Global Moderator / Editor

    Sounds weird but it can be true.

    Soft dampers usually keep a car comfortable, while stiff springs and anti-roll bars give it a firm ride, ie reduce leaning when taking a corner. It won't feel as if someone kicked you when you hit a pothole, though! Not to mention tyres.

    :)
  16. Wolfgang Contributing Member

    Looks like 3 different suspension setups are available? ;)


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    The chassis and suspension: Agility and refined sportiness

    Refined sportiness means maximum agility combined with the sense of safety, unspoilt driving stability and high levels of ride comfort which are all typical of the brand. The suspension of the new A-Class has a four-link rear axle, electromechanical power steering with assistance functions and ESP® with "Extended Traction Control" (XTC). During development, the suspension experts made intensive use of simulations and the driving simulators at the Mercedes development centre in Sindelfingen as part of the so-called digital ride and handling test.

    The preconditions for achieving dynamic handling are excellent in the A-Class. This is because compared with its predecessor the centre of gravity (24 mm lower) and seating position (174 mm lower) has been reduced significantly. A new feature is the four-link rear axle: forces are absorbed by three control arms and one trailing arm per wheel. This means that longitudinal and lateral dynamics are virtually independent of one another. Wheel carriers and spring links are made of aluminium to reduce the unsprung masses. The goal was to achieve high lateral agility with high driving stability thanks to small sideslip angle on the rear axle.

    Three chassis and suspension set-ups are available: the comfort suspension and optional sports suspension for sporty yet comfortable handling (in conjunction with the Dynamic Handling package or the AMG Sport equipment line). In addition, the A 250 Sport has a sporty, "engineered by AMG" high-performance suspension. Altogether this results in low dynamic rolling behaviour and low start-off pitch angle. Furthermore, the vehicle also has a reduced tendency to understeer in the higher lateral acceleration range: the driver is therefore able to control changes in direction with low steering input but high steering precision. When accelerating out of bends taken at speed, the tendency to understeer is reduced even further by "Extended Traction Control" (XTC): with this function, ESP® provides support in the form of directional stability by generating a yaw moment on the front and rear wheels located on the inside of the bend.

    Source: Daimler.
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  17. Giannis Global Moderator / Editor

    I guess they are talking about three different combinations of springs, dampers and anti-roll bars configuration.

    :)
  18. Wolfgang Contributing Member

    Good point. :)

    TIREFIT is standard, RunFlats are only optional as many MB owners dont like RunFlats.




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  19. Bilal Well-Known Member

    Tremendously informed as usual Wolfgang!
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  20. Human BMW's my Brand

    Mercedes A250 Sport

    Can the sporty Golf GTI-rivalling version of the all-new Mercedes A-Class deliver on the road?
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    When the flagship A45 AMG arrives next year, it will have “the most performance in its sector”, according to Mercedes boss Dieter Zetsche. Until then, the most powerful version of the new A-Class you can buy is the A250. Only available with a dual-clutch seven-speed automatic gearbox, it uses a 2.0-litre turbocharged petrol engine with 208bhp, which is almost identical to the output of a VW Golf GTI.

    In AMG Sport spec, the Mercedes actually undercuts the VW on price by £735 – yet at first glance it seems like the more desirable hot hatch, not only because of its badge, but also the dramatic styling.

    Even the normal A-Class is striking. Factor in the Sport’s AMG bodykit, lowered suspension and a grille with silver and chrome highlights, and this A-Class really looks the business. It’s the same inside. A flat-bottomed leather steering wheel, body-hugging seats and suede trim with red stitching add to an interior which already feels pretty sporty thanks to a relatively low seating position and high flat-faced dashboard.

    AMG Sport cars also get thicker anti-roll bars, stiffer springs, firmer dampers, variable rate steering and uprated brake discs. The result is a fine handling car. Chuck it into a corner quickly and the car remains almost flat, and you have to try very hard to get the front end to run out of grip.

    All this means you can fling the A250 AMG Sport around a twisty road with great confidence, although there is a trade-off over the standard car in terms of comfort, as the ride can get quite bumpy on broken surfaces.

    If you can cope with an even firmer ride still, for an extra £1,920 you can opt for the ‘Engineered by AMG’ version of the A250, which takes the handling up another notch with an even more aggressive chassis set-up. This car is identified by its unique pin-style grille and red brake calipers, as shown in these pictures.

    If there is one area for improvement for the A250, it’s the powertrain. For starters the 7G-DCT paddleshift automatic isn’t as good as VW’s DSG system either in auto or manual mode, while the engine just doesn’t feel as fast as its 0-62mph time of 6.6 seconds suggests.

    Still, you can’t complain about the impressive economy and emissions figures, which are better than the slightly slower Golf GTI. However, if it’s real firepower you’re after, the A45 AMG will soon be here with an expected 350bhp.
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