CLA (C117) [First drives] Mercedes-Benz CLA-CLASS - TESTS


The Mercedes-Benz C117 is the first generation of the CLA series of luxury subcompact executive cars marketed as a four-door coupé. Model codes: C117 (4-door coupé), and X117 (shooting brake). It is succeeded by the CLA (C118). Production: 2013-2019.
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Confirms the unadvertised overboost during kickdown for the CLA 250 SPORT. (y)

The real help here comes from the re-engineered transverse "M270" 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine, with an ICSI turbocharger good for 14.5 psi of constant maximum boost pressure. The power is a pretty universal 2.0T-like 208 horsepower, while the torque raises its game nicely to 258 pound-feet between 1,200 and 4,000 rpm. Our other pal, Mr. Guido Vent in charge of gas engine development on smaller Mercedes vehicles, tells us that there is an unadvertised overboost effect during kickdown with one's foot to the floor, which results in roughly 13 more hp and 15 more lb-ft of torque for brief bursts. On these test routes, we had several opportunities to try out this overboost effect for passing maneuvers and we can say the powertrain pulls pretty dang well throughout the middle rev range.

http://www.germancarforum.com/community/threads/cla-class-first-drives-tests.48504/#post-627079

http://www.germancarforum.com/commu...rcedes-benz-a-class.43509/page-14#post-604844
 
"Verdict

The CLA might not be perfect, but it’s hard not to conclude that its market positioning is a bit of a masterstroke from Mercedes: it looks distinctive and special (if strangely proportioned from some angles), slots into a market niche somewhere above the VW Jetta and below the BMW 3-series, and generally drives well.

The gearbox is a letdown, you’ll need more space in the back if you regularly carry passengers and we wish the diesel powerplant was more refined, but the CLA will doubtless hold wide appeal for the younger audience that Mercedes craves."

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Drives/Search-Results/First-drives/Mercedes-CLA220-CDI-2013-CAR-review/
 
What's going on here. Limo like ride quality? Is Mercedes paying attention to initial reviews of the A-class and CLA?

It’s the slightly more civilised brother to the A 45 AMG hot hatch, but why would you want the softer AMG?


http://www.carsales.com.au/reviews/...ercedes-benz-cla-45-amg-2013-first-ride-35738

Mercedes-Benz CLA 45 AMG

First ride
Affalterbach, Germany


What we liked>> Mega strong mid-range
>> Secure handling
>> Limo ride quality

Not so much>> CLA packaging issues
>> Lacks blind spot vision
>> Not on sale yet


Tobias Moers is still not completely happy with the steering and he’s giving me Icky Face. He likes it, especially given AMG’s relative lack of experience with making front axles twist, but he just doesn’t quite love it. Yet.

He will, the AMG development head assures me as he throws the CLA 45 AMG prototype through the Swabian hills. Every drive, even drives like this with us in the passenger seat, brings AMG’s 270-strong development team closer to where the boss wants it to be when the car hits showrooms here in November.

He’s happy with plenty of other parts of the car, though, and our first impressions are that he should be. This Bengal Tiger version of the CLA 45 carries the standard suspension set-up (there will be a harder, Sports option) and the louder Sports exhaust and it all feels ridiculously organised and civilised in spite of its performance potential.

On our ride with Moers, it felt like it walked a superb line between comfort and agility, losing nothing on long corners or on rapid direction changes. It also takes the supple ride of the standard car and builds on it, feeling both more direct and offering more accurate damping to deliver comfort without losing mid-corner poise.

This drive, a two-hour exercise on the well-pounded roads around Affalterbach, is officially AMG inviting us to be part of its late validation program. Unofficially, it’s a confident AMG simply showing off ahead of the car’s US debut in New York on March 27.

This is AMG’s way of showing that the CLA 45 is fully prepped for a battle years in the making. By the time it arrives, the CLA 45 will deliver the same 265kW of power as the A 45 hatch, the same 4.6-second sprint to 100km/h and the same hefty 450Nm of torque in the same all-wheel drive package.

What’s more, the small, fast sedan will cost less than $100,000 making it a key part of AMG’s efforts to sell 30,000 cars a year.

It will be AMG’s first series production four-cylinder car, its first transverse-engine car and it will give AMG a serious player in this segment. Actually, it will give AMG two serious players here, because the A 45 will be a slightly firmer version of this in a five-door body.

Beneath its sedan skin, the CLA 45 is the same car as the A 45 AMG hatch, right down to its wheelbase and track widths. Even the spring and damper rates on the Sports suspension version are identical, though AMG has made the standard set-up slightly softer on the sedan.

To justify that kind of money, AMG has worked hard on four main areas: the CLA’s suspension system, the engine, the all-wheel drive and, of course, the exhaust.

Using 1.8 bar of turbo pressure to push 140 bar of peak pressure inside the 2.0-litre engine forced AMG to mass produce parts from the low-volume world of racing. The CLA 45 boasts a sand-cast engine block, forged steel crankshafts, sand-cast aluminium crankcases and spray-guided direct fuel-injection.

It uses piezo fuel-injectors in the centre of the combustion chamber that allow for multiple injections per stroke and backs that up with multi-spark plugs, too.

Despite its outrageous power output that delivers 133kW per litre, the CLA 45 also boasts an NEDC fuel economy rating of 6.9L/100km.

On the roads around AMG’s head office, that engine feels tremendously strong and sounds rich. There have been strong turbo fours before, most notably in Mitsubishi Evo Lancer and Subaru WRX STi bodies, but the CLA 45 has them comfortably covered in performance as well as sophistication and, critically in AMG’s view, sound quality.

While it has crushing strength from below 2500rpm, there is a slight softness below 1500rpm but it never complains or stutters when it’s left to labor at 1000rpm in fifth or sixth gear.

From around 1800rpm, the engine just builds inexorably until the tacho needle arrives at around 2300rpm and then the CLA 45 erupts.

Its strength from 2300rpm onward verges on brutal and it’s hard to imagine another four-cylinder that will run with its in-gear acceleration. There’s the faintest trace of a turbo whistle in the background as the exhaust deepens through the engine’s work.

There is barely an unwanted tremor or vibration through the body and all the occupants hear and feel is the aggression AMG wants you to hear and feel. By 5000rpm the CLA 45 is in the meat of its abilities and is both responsive to the throttle and terrifically fast.

AMG says it reaches its peak power at 6000rpm but the CLA 45 engine whips through to its limiter at 6700rpm without much thought, though the tone changes from deeply muscular in the mid-range to something more athletic at higher revs.

Even as quick as it is, the highlights (especially with the louder Sports exhaust fitted and the Sport mode on) are the pops and crackles at every shift from the seven-speed dual-clutch transmission and the woofly burbles on every over-run or lift off.

That’s why we ran the CLA 45 in its Sports mode most of the time – the car’s behavior with its exhaust flaps closed in the default setting is very civilised and makes the car almost subtle.

The seven-speed transmission is fast and smooth and those crackles and pops just encourage you to change gear even when it’s not strictly necessary. Or even remotely necessary.

The transmission is flange-mounted onto the engine block and delivers a Race Start function for maximum getaway speed, fast shifts, double-declutch downshifts and three different driving modes.

Nestled inside the transmission are the lead-in parts of the Haldex all-wheel drive system. It means the CLA 45 is designed to run as a front-wheel drive most of the time, but it can send 50 per cent of its drive to the rear when it’s needed.

“You vary the torque split with the ESP button. It’s normally front-wheel drive with the AWD as a traction support system, but in Sport it moves more torque to the back,” Moers said.

Almost the entire suspension has been replaced from the standard Mercedes-Benz CLA, with a couple of exceptions that AMG forced onto Benz’s main layout when the A-Class was under development.

For example, the steering knuckle is the same one that Benz asked AMG to develop for the A250, but with a few more tweaks, and the rear sub-frame and the all-wheel drive clutches are the same, too.

“These are over engineered for the A-Class, at our insistence, because that’s what we needed in this car and it’s better this way around” Mr Moers revealed.


Body: Four-door sedan
Layout: Transverse front-mounted engine
Drive: All-wheel
Engine: 2.0-litre four-cylinder
Bore x stroke: 83mm x 92mm
Capacity: 1991cc
Turbocharging: Twin-scroll, 1.8 bar maximum pressure
Max power: 265kW (360hp) @ 6000rpm
Max torque: 450Nm @ 2250 – 5000rpm
Max revs: 6700rpm
Transmission: Seven-speed dual-clutch
Drive system: Multi-plate clutch pack
Weight: 1530kg (approximately)
Brakes: 350mm x 32mm ventilated discs, four-piston calipers (front), 330mm x 22mm discs, two-piston calipers (rear)
Tyres: 235/40 R18
0-100km/h acceleration: 4.6 seconds
Top speed: 250km/h (limited)
Fuel consumption: 6.9L/100km
CO2 emissions: 161g/km
 
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^ tosspot journo - Car magazine's Ben Barry - doesn't realise - on page 4 of above - the C250 petrol doesn't have the same engine as the CLA250, and therefore ponders why the CLA250 has more torque than "the same engine" in the C250.

The C250(W204) has the old, about to be replaced in the C-class, 1.8 litre 'M271 EVO' engine, whereas the newer CLA has the new 'M270(/274)' engine, with 2.0 litre capacity, in the CLA250. Why do people pay four quid? for these rubbish experts' musings?

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_M271
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_M_270
 
I drive a C250 and I would describe it as anything but dull. Although I agree that MB has failed to find a nice balance in the Eco and Sport modes on the tranny. One is too lax to get going, and the sport almost takes it too far. Would be nice to find some balance.
 
Can someone translate 1-7 in this pic? Pic 6 is ridiculous. An E36 3er which is physically significantly smaller than this car will seat 3 adults in the rear more comfortably than that. Form just didn't not follow function with this one, it kicked it on the balls. Apologies for hating on this car so much, but more I see of this car, more I am convinced it is a POS.



Also can someone translate the 5 star ratings - besides the obvious Komfort.
TIA.

 
Sunny in all fairness to the poor car, one of those guys is a fatso.


M
 
^Sure Marcus, but looking at the pic, it wouldn't have been much better even if the guy was a normal guy. I just took five (including me) normal sized adults in my car for lunch from work the other day - no one looked this cramped or uncomfortable and an E36 is way smaller externally than a CLA.
 
I'm sure, but the car is luring, entry-level, vanity piece, not a load lugger per say, they couldn't encroach on the C too much.

M
 
Can someone translate 1-7 in this pic?

1. Formally weighted: A car like Pinocchio - with a scary long nose. Okay - FWD is to blame, but it doesn't really look elegant.

2. Oppressive headrest: The seats of the CLA must look sporty. Comfort-wise they have only drawbacks, like the too wide towards the front inclined headrests - they press/ squeeze the back of the head.

3. C-Pillar disrupts the view: Because we are not children in a cellar, we want to look out, at the back of the car. It's not possible though, as the wide C-Pillar blocks the sight.

4. Giant Gaps: Were they measured? We don't know. The door panel is too small and allows the naked, painted sheet-metal of the CLA to be seen through.

5. Little overview: Also the rear seats are inspired from Porsche. Outcome: The part of the view/sight left by the C-Pillar and the small rear window is blocked by the rear headrests.

6. Very narrow rear seats: Men, we stand off very wide (take our space). The faces say it very clearly: not in the CLA. There's only hassle instead of ample space.

7. Way too hard ride: A very bone-dry Type: What brings fun in the tight bends of a highway, is a torture in everyday traffic - the sport chassis is tuned too hard.

:)
 
Had a drive in one of these today! It was a CLA 200 with the AMG package (with that fab bling grille), automatic.

I'm in a hurry now, so I'll just share two things for now:

1. There is no way to fit adults in the rear.
2. The handling and chassis is actually really good.
 
Piss poor showing considering how good Mercedes are in other classes. Hard to believe the same people who give us the S-class gave us this.
 
Piss poor showing considering how good Mercedes are in other classes. Hard to believe the same people who give us the S-class gave us this.

- a few things to maybe consider:

Auto Bild(Springer Verlag) is to VW group as Autocar in the UK is to Jaguar Land Rover, i.e., Auto Bild is a massive homer for VW group products and correspondingly a downer on non VW group products.

- the MFA, Mercedes Front-wheel drive Architecture, is fundamentally sound, as shown by the technical and sales success of the B- and A-Class already. The CLA is one of only 4 maybe 5 models to be spun off the MFA, so not do or die for the whole MFA Mercedes front-wheel drive thing.

- there is a problem with the exaggerated front overhang of the CLA - almost a metre long - which due to the booted sedan shape looks worse than on the A- and B-Class. VW's MQB technology has made the situation worse, as they have managed through huge investment and engineering excellence to overcome much of the inherent overhang associated with FWD platforms, as shown by the new Golf and A3.

- the CLA will be a sales success regardless of AutoBild's panning, as its key market is the US, and there, in this segment, price and image is king, and pitching a Benz at <$30k ensures it will be a huge hit.

- the killer product for the whole already much maligned by Auto Bild and some others MFA family will not be the CLA, or even the A-Class, but the GLA. That product hides its huge front overhang much better, due to the stubby rear end and raised height.

All that said, I agree that Mercedes-Benz cannot hide that their core skill still lies in RWD and large sedans, and that due to their much longer track record and huge investment, dwarfing even Daimler's in the MFA, VW's Golf and its clones, A3, Octavia and so on, is imperious when it comes to FWD excellence.

PS I've just checked and noticed that Auto Bild's claim in the point number one above of the 'Pinocchio nose'-like overhang being 965 mm, contradicts Mercedes' own official measurement of 915mm - see: http://www.mercedes-benz.de/content...ass/c117/facts_/technicaldata/dimensions.html

I wonder if Auto Bild, like their Pinocchio, is telling lies, to make Mercedes look worse?

PPS Just noticed that Auto Bild measured the 0-100 km/h acceleration of the 220 CDI test car at 7.8s, which is 0.4s better than Mercedes' own claim of 8.2s, and that the test fuel consumption of 5.4l/100km is pretty damn good too - so not all bad!
 
Mercedes has never been good as small, never. I've said this for years. Look how look it took them to get the C-Class right. From the 190E to the current C and their smallest car (until now) just because a fully grown, sorted vehicle. Now the C-Class is on fire, especially in the U.S. outselling the 3-Series now. Now as they push it up market with the next model, sedan, coupe, convertible and wagon, they'll produce something that is close to the old W123 or W124 E-Class in size and it be a well sorted vehicle. That leave the CLA, seemingly with a misjudged ride/handling tradeoff and a goofy gearbox. I just don't think Mercedes tries as hard with their small cars. The safety and engineering is there, but the details like the engine note, gearbox and ride are not finessed enough compared to say an E or even C-Class. Maybe come facelift time they will get the CLA almost right. I can live with the looks even the interior, but it should drive better. The Audi A3 is going to smoke it in the driving part. I pray they got the CLA45 right. They could sell a shiteload of those at that 47K price. That is like 3.5K $$ less than an E350 in the U.S!

M
 

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