Alfa Romeo 164 Pro-Car


bmer

Tire Trailblazer
An interesting article I wanted to share with my fellow GCFers. :t-cheers:


551b628f046a37b49a0d0b9abdbacca3.webp



Story and photography by Roberto Motta, archive photography by Automobilismo Storico Alfa Romeo Centro Documentazione

The history of the 164 Pro-Car has its origin in 1985, when Alfa Romeo decided to return to Formula 1 World Championship, and the management decided that they would build a new 3.5 liter engine, which would be installed in the French F1 Ligier.

At this time, Pino D’Agostino, one of the world’s most famous engineers, was convinced that it was possible to balance a 72 degree V10 engine. He reasoned that if 8 cylinders had been the best engine in the Formula 3000, a V10 would be the best engine for the new Formula 1. After receiving the necessary authorization, in November 1985 the V10 project officially began.

fef413000d21ed0b58bbb665ad0aa198.webp


Engineer D’Agostino was the head of this project and had a great team: Bodini, Bordoni, Flor, Giani, Mazzoleni, Rossetti, Teruzzi and Turina. In an amazingly short time, the Alfa Romeo V1035 (10 cylinders, 3.5 liters) engine became the first modern F1 V10 engine (Honda presented a model of the engine only one month after the introduction of the Italian V10 while Renault produced its V10 the following year).

On 1st July 1986, the V10 engine was started for the first time, and developed 583hp. Thanks to its technical parameters, which are still used in Formula 1 engines, the Alfa V10 became the reference point for other project managers.

16dedf55f2a080e3a68a97cae1718941.webp


Technically the 10 cylinders are formed by two banks of five with an opening of 72°, the block is in aluminum-silicon alloy. The connecting rods are titanium, moulded pistons with high density silicon, with two ring segments, and are cooled with oil jets. Initially, the heads featured four valves per cylinder but later the engine was equipped with five valves per cylinder. The valves are titanium, activated by spring in tappets, action is transmitted to the valves by four camshafts with phase variations, two for each head. A titanium flywheel was connected to the crankshaft. In its last version, the fantastic V10 Alfa Romeo engine produced 620hbp at 13300rpm, with a max torque of 39kgm at 9500rpm.

d1fe213ffd97bdc3d0e2ef18b331943a.webp


Unfortunately, some time later, Vittorio Ghidella (Fiat's General Manager) broke off the relationship with Ligier and the dream of returning to F1 with the Alfa Romeo engine vanished.

For some time the V10 remained abandoned in an corner of the workshop, then, some time later, the top management of the Fiat group decided to use the V10 for their new program, the Pro-Car project.

3f8f5caaf801fe4da5c96337fa9c2a27.webp


The Pro-Car (or Production Car) series was a formula for competition cars designed to look exactly like the version of the standard road car. But these were to be hot rods--perhaps more like Funny Cars, which could use the mechanics and technical solutions that derived from F1, thanks to the regulations which permitted a lot of freedom in the construction.

Among the few restrictions contemplated by the regulations; the car could had a weight no less that 750kg (1650 lbs) and the use of a 3500cc engine with no more than 12 cylinders (the last clause of the regulations was a way to involve the big car companies in the supply of engines destined to F1). It was expected that major companies would participate in the Pro Car series because of the high tech nature and obvious advertising opportunities, given that the series would have featured all-out racing cars, yet that had a bodywork exactly like the standard cars.

Alfa Romeo now had a fantastic V10 engine but would have had to develop a new, rigid and lightweight chassis. That problem was solved by giving Brabham the order to construct a chassis composed of a central cell with beehive structure, realized in Nomex aluminum and covered in carbon fiber panels. The choice of the Brabham factory made use of a synergy which had already existed since the mid-1970’s, when the Milanese company supplied “boxer” engines for the F1 BT45, and from the fact that the English factory had a great deal of experience in the field of composite materials.

ade311d775030010631a5489b9a0d46e.webp


After many technical meetings, fifteen engines and two cars were completed by September 1988. One these cars was given to Giorgio Francia for a test on the private track of Balocco. Francia tested the car about ten days before the Italian Grand Prix and was impressed by the speed and the acceleration of the car, which also demonstrated that it was well balanced. During the tests, the 164 Pro-Car reached a top speed of 340km/h, (211 mph) and was possible to drive a quarter of a mile in only 9.7 seconds, and to reach one kilometer from a stop took 17.5 seconds.

A few days later, 9th September 1988, during the weekend dedicated to the Italian Grand Prix, the 164 Pro-Car made its debut into society on the Monza track. It was an exceptional debut, just a few unforgettable laps, but which showed all the potential of a fantastic car. Driven by Brabham driver Riccardo Patrese, it reached a speed of 329 km/h, a speed much higher than that reached by the F1 cars entered in the Grand Prix! It was an impressive debut; in which the performance was easy reached, thanks to aerodynamics that had a CX value much less than that of a single seater.

079bde0ceba5fd6bef84bc6e741cc919.webp


Unfortunately this was the only ‘dance’ for the 164 Pro-Car, for aside from Alfa, there was no other company which was willing to take the risk and front the costs for developing a car for the championship. The Pro-Car series never got underway, and the 164 Pro-Car became a research laboratory. A championship similar to the Pro-Car series was held only years later, called World Touring Championship ITC. Alfa Romeo, Mercedes and GM-Opel developed cars which were so interesting that they almost overshadowed the F1 Championship, with the consequence that the FIA cancelled the very popular World Touring Car Championship.

Today, the fantastic Alfa 164 V10 can be see at Museo Alfa Romeo in Arese.
 
General specifications
Country of origin: Italy
Numbers built: 1
Produced in: 1988

Engine
Configuration: Alfa Corse 72º V 10
Location: Mid, longitudinally mounted
Displacement: 3.5 liter / 213.6 cu in
Valvetrain: 4 valves / cylinder, DOHC
Fuel feed: Bosch Fuel Injection
Aspiration: Naturally Aspirated

Drivetrain

Chassis/body: carbon fibre monocoque
Suspension (fr/r): double wishbones, coil springs, anti-roll bar
Steering: rack-and-pinion
Brakes: ventilated discs, all-round
Gearbox: Hewland 6 speed Manual
Drive: Rear wheel drive

Dimensions
Weight: 750 kilo / 1653.5 lbs
Length / Width / Height: 4555 mm (179.3 in) / N/A / N/A
Wheelbase / Track (fr/r): 2660 mm (104.7 in) / 1515 mm (59.6 in) / 1488 mm (58.6 in)

Performance figures
Power: 600 bhp / 448 KW @ 12000 rpm
BHP/Liter: 171 bhp / liter
Power to weight: 0.8 bhp / kg
Top Speed: 340 km/h / 211 mph
 
Such a sad thing that today Alfa is not what it could have been. Fortunately its name and appeal has always remained.
 
It's so sad to see what Fiat's imcompetent management have done to two heritage-rich brands like Alfa Romeo and Lancia. I mean, look where they are now, selling ugly, rebadged Fiats (in very little quantities to make it worse).

Just compare that to what VW did with a not particulary glamorous brand like Audi; nowadays 2nd biggest premium brand in the world.

What a shame from Fiat.
 
Tata could be a good owner. Look what they do with Jaguar and Land Rover. They just give them the fonds, and the work they do it on their own. Jaguars range is very good now with the XF, XJ, XK and the coming XE. I don't understand why Fiat does everything only for Ferrari and leaves Alfa an Maserati without anything much. The Maserati SUV was show for the first time in 2003 a and they left it there while BMW X5 and Porsche Cayenne sold. They did not give the Quattroporte any V12 to rival the Mercdes S 600, the BMW 760i and the Bentley Continental Flying Spur. The GranTursimo/Granbario are probably the most elegant 4 seater 2 door car you can find, but underpowered because they are so heavy and of bad interior finish, compared to Audi and the last Prosches. They are just too slow to respond to the market, the are very few new models. Simply the brands/names themselves have so much appeal, that any good product would be a huge sucsess. I can't understand why in FIAT GROUPE only Ferrari can build good car (except in terms of reliability) but Maserati and Alfa can't.

Somebody worthy has to buy all three brands, Ferrari, Maserati and Alfa Romeo. Or maybe the easier and better solution would be another CEO, and not Sergio Marchionne.
 
Well, another good example is the "Alfa coming back to the U.S. next year" which dates back to earlies 2000's :eusa_doh:
I completely agree with you about FIAT only giving proper founds and development to Ferrari. Maserati has great looking cars with uncompetitive engines and Alfa's are travesties.
Lancia.... do they still exist?

What a shame, so much tradition and heritage going down the drain...
 
Well, another good example is the "Alfa coming back to the U.S. next year" which dates back to earlies 2000's :eusa_doh:
I completely agree with you about FIAT only giving proper founds and development to Ferrari. Maserati has great looking cars with uncompetitive engines and Alfa's are travesties.
Lancia.... do they still exist?

What a shame, so much tradition and heritage going down the drain...

It is also thanks to Sergio's incompetence that the german car industry is so healthy and the prices go so high. The FIAT could rival every class of cars and every brand.

Fiat: VW, Seat, Skoda with cheap but reliable and enough good quality cars for all.
Abarth: Mégane RS, Focus RS and all other sporty but affordable cars.
Lancia: Mercedes with luxurious high quality and reliable cars in the premium market.
Alfa Romeo: BMW with sporty high quality and reliable cars in the premium market.
Maserati: Jaguar, Bentley, Aston Martin and Porsche luxurious cars with sporty touch in the luxury market.
Ferrari: Lamborghini and Prosche sport cars in the exotic sportscars market.

Looking at the list only Ferrari fulfills its role but reliablity is far from that of a Porsche. I think it is late for anything of the kind to be done. We would need 10 years, but in 10 years we don't know were the car industry will be with hybrids and electric, and at this point only Ferrari worked on a 599 Hybrid, no other brand of the FIAT group. FIAT lost its chance from 2000 to 2010. What was mainly needed was design and quality/reliablity. Their drivetrains and powertrains needed better tuning and that was all. But now we have to respond to emission laws, security laws, tech is so advanced, FIAT can't catch up anymore.

I really think this group will be deluted and sold, but with this all tradition and heritige may go completely lost. Very few are conscious about it.
 
Absoluletely. They have all the brand image, cachet and heritage to be up there with the best, bout obviously they manage to find the way to ruin it. After all, it's just Ferarri and Fiat trying to be competetive, Lancia and Alfa have been forgoten. What is even worse is the fact Fiat is trying to turn the fortunes around the solely 500. How much they think it will last? Once the hype starts to disappear, Fiat will be let with very little to compete.
Just look how the Panda is now suffering severe competition from the up/Citygo/Mii from VW and the ever improving korean cars.

Regards!
 
Glad there are some that understand this. Usually when I talk about the potential of tradition and heritage of italian cars most people are like "WTF are you talking about?"
 
How could they not have potential when you have a car named "Alfa Romeo". I mean, it's damm perfect! (only matched in coolness by Hispano Suiza)

Regards!
 
As a current AR owner this is really saddens me.:(

Also you own an AR? I own an Alfa 147.


How could they not have potential when you have a car named "Alfa Romeo". I mean, it's damm perfect! (only matched in coolness by Hispano Suiza)

Regards!


Yes, the proof is it works very well with girls, they really like the name "Alfa Romeo". Maybe because of "Romeo and Juliet". Whatever, sometimes for them it is the same thing as a BMW.
 

Alfa Romeo

Alfa Romeo Automobiles S.p.A. is an Italian luxury car manufacturer and a subsidiary of Stellantis Italy. It was founded on 24 June 1910 in Milan, Italy, as A.L.F.A., an acronym for Anonima Lombarda Fabbrica Automobili. The brand is known for sport-oriented vehicles and has been involved in car racing since 1911. As of 2023, it is a subsidiary of the multinational automotive manufacturing corporation Stellantis.
Official website: Alfa Romeo

Thread statistics

Created
bmer,
Last reply from
Tarek,
Replies
15
Views
10,237

Trending content


Back
Top