911 (997) 997.2 gt2 rs

There are some rumors about a 997.2 GT2 RS. The current EVO issue (140) says:

"News
If a Porsche GT2 or a Ferrari 599 HGTE is just a bit too softly-softly for your liking, then you’ll be pleased to hear that Porsche is making a GT2 RS, while Ferrari is taking the stickers off a 599XX and calling it the 599 GTO (probably)"

From #35 of the 2010 Porsche Driving School brochure:

Super Sport
Designed to meet the challenges of motorsport, some vehicles are simply made for the track – these include models like the Porsche Carrera GT and road-legal racecars such as the 911 GT3, GT3 RS, GT2, GT2 RS and GT2 CS. If you own one of these vehicles, this special training course is the one for you.

Some pictures of a possible GT2 RS - equipped with GT3s center lock wheels:



Rumors also say 550 or 600+ bhp and PDK.

RS? Wouldn't say to. It's a facelifted 997 GT2. Expect a 20hp increase or so. It should be the final bow for the 997 until the 998 hit the showroom floors in the second half of next year.

A 'normal' GT2 (.2) oder GT2 CS mule won't have widened fenders.

Back in 2008 my Porsche dealership told me about an upcoming (very limited) GT2 RS variant. 580hp, 80kg less. And the official Porsche Driving School brochure also speaks about the RS. Time will tell...

Holy crap, that would be epic

If it indeed does get a PDK and the uprated version of the 3.8l DI unit in the Turbo, it will be a monster. This vs Italia vs LFA will be epic.

But the car will not have AWD, so it will be interesting to see how much grip it will have in the initial 0-100 km/h sprint....Faster than the AWD Turbo mark 2 (3.2 seconds) will be hard....

0-100 km/h 3.1 seconds
0-160 km/h 6.8 seconds
0-200 km/h 10.4 seconds
0-300 km/h 41.9 seconds not the best conditions
Quarter mile 11.19 @ 128mph (two people in the car)

315 km/h top speed

tested all from euro magazines.


my prediction for a 580hp gt2 rs would be

0-100 km/h 3.2 seconds
0-160 km/h 6.5 seconds
0-200 km/h 9.7 seconds
0-300 km/h 28.3 seconds
Quarter mile 10.7 @ 136 mph
337 km/h top speed

Looking forward to the next issue of evo, should be here tuesday.

klier said:

But the car will not have AWD, so it will be interesting to see how much grip it will have in the initial 0-100 km/h sprint....Faster than the AWD Turbo mark 2 (3.2 seconds) will be hard....

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Yea probably not match the 0-60 of the AWD turbo, but it will be much faster after at higher speeds. And who cares if 0-60 is 3.2 or 3.5?

Sunny said:

Yea probably not match the 0-60 of the AWD turbo, but it will be much faster after at higher speeds. And who cares if 0-60 is 3.2 or 3.5?

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if the gt2 rs 1st gear redline is at ~101km/h the turbo wouldn't stand a chance in 0 a 0-62 comparison! especaily when chosen a much lighter manual gear box + a good driver such as Walter Röhrl.

even a zr1 with out launch control did the 62mph in a 3.2s! it all depend on the driver!

Sunny said:

Yea probably not match the 0-60 of the AWD turbo, but it will be much faster after at higher speeds. And who cares if 0-60 is 3.2 or 3.5?

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Yeah, it better be much faster at higher speeds, because that's the 911's Achilles' heel right now.
And I care about 0-100 km/h times

I say bring it on!!!

Ok, that grey/blue one is seriously good looking.

hilalpro said:

if the gt2 rs 1st gear redline is at ~101km/h the turbo wouldn't stand a chance in 0 a 0-62 comparison! especaily when chosen a much lighter manual gear box + a good driver such as Walter Röhrl.

even a zr1 with out launch control did the 62mph in a 3.2s! it all depend on the driver!

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I wouldn't be so sure about that. PDK virtually eliminates shift times, and traction with 4 wheels is two times as much in a Turbo compared to a GT2

It will have an engine producing 550+ bhp and the PDK kit, which is Porsche’s automatic double-clutch gearbox. The supercar will be a track-biased vehicle with better handling characteristics as its little sister the GT2 and center-locking wheels. Weight-saving acrylic glass will be used for the rear window. The complete set of modifications result in a 14% weight reduction, or about 200kg.

Rumours: 2011 Porsche GT2 RS - GTSPIRIT.COM

klier said:

I wouldn't be so sure about that. PDK virtually eliminates shift times, and traction with 4 wheels is two times as much in a Turbo compared to a GT2

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not in the case of a rear mounted engine car and a gt2 can be 150 kg lighter and traction is not "two times as much".. with a good driver or a optimized launch control the turbo wouldn't stand a chance. a gt2 rs with 580 hp and 1400 kg has a serious power to weight.

look at the tires!

2010 gt3 rs
fr: 245/35 ZR 19 (semi slicks)
rr: 325/30 ZR 19 (semi slicks)

2010 turbo
fr: 235/35 ZR 19
rr: 305/30 ZR 19

The mark II Turbo does 0-100 km/h in 3.2 seconds.... show me a RWD car, any car, supercar or whatever (streetlegal/production car) with a time of 3.1s 0-100 km/h or faster. They don't exist as far as I know. Not even cars like the Ferrari Enzo can do that, with better specs than this potential GT2 RS, since it has more power and less weight. For a RWD car, 3.3s is pushing it already...

0-200 km/h is what becomes important
And don't get me wrong.....a GT2 RS is still a wet dream....

klier said:

The mark II Turbo does 0-100 km/h in 3.2 seconds.... show me a RWD car, any car, supercar or whatever (streetlegal/production car) with a time of 3.1s 0-100 km/h or faster. They don't exist as far as I know. Not even cars like the Ferrari Enzo can do that, with better specs than this potential GT2 RS, since it has more power and less weight. For a RWD car, 3.3s is pushing it already...

0-200 km/h is what becomes important
And don't get me wrong.....a GT2 RS is still a wet dream....

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the 911 turbo did at best in 3.1 not just 3.2 but sure... check bikes for an instant and you will know whey power to weight is important for 0 to 62 times...

1. Bugatti Veyron Fbg par HermĆØs 2.46 s
2. Bugatti Veyron Sang Noir 2.46 s
3. Bugatti EB 16.4 Veyron 2.5 s
4. Caparo T1 2.5 s
5. Bugatti Veyron Pur Sang 2.5 s
6. Bugatti Veyron Grand Sport 2.5 s
7. SSC Ultimate Aero EV 2.5 s
8. Ultima GTR 720 2.6 s
9. Dauer Porsche 962 LeMans 2.6 s
10. Orca SC7 2.6 s
11. Iconic GTR Roadster 2.6 s
12. Ariel Atom 3 (300 hp) 2.7 s
13. Ultima GTR 640 2.7 s
14. SSC Ultimate Aero TT 2.78 s
15. Ariel Atom 2.8 s
16. Ascari A10 2.8 s
17. Caterham R500 2.8 s
18. IFR Aspid Super Sport 2.8 s
19. Koenigsegg CCXR Special Edition 2.9 s
20. SSC Aero SC/8T 2.9 s
21. Leblanc Mirabeau 2.9 s
22. McLaren F1 LM 2.9 s
23. Orca C113 2.9 s
24. 9ff GT9-R 2.9 s
25. Koenigsegg CCXR Trevita 2.9 s
26. Porsche DP 962 LM 2.9 s
27. Gumpert Apollo 3.0 s
28. Gumpert Apollo R (Race) 3.0 s
29. Gumpert Apollo Sport 3.0 s
30. Pagani Zonda Cinque 3.0 s
31. Mosler MT900 GTR 3.0 s
32. Monteverdi Hai 650 F1 3.0 s
33. Caterham Super Seven RST V8-Levante 3.0 s
34. Factory Five Racing GTM LS7 3.0 s
35. RoadRazor Sportscar 3.0 s
36. GTA Spano 3 s
37. Elfin MS8 Streamliner 50th Anniversary 3.0 s
38. Lamborghini Murciélago LP 670-4 SuperVeloce 3.0 s
39. RMC Scorpion 3,5 s
40. Ford RS200 Evolution 3.075 s
41. Radical SR3 3.1 s
42. Koenigsegg CCXR 3.1 s
43. Callaway C7-R 3.1 s
44. Gumpert Apollo Speed 3.1 s
45. Porsche 997 Turbo facelift 3.1 s
46. McLaren F1 3.2 s
47. Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 3.2 s
48. Wrightspeed X1 Prototype 3.2 s
49. Porsche GT1 (993) 3.2 s
50. Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 3.2 s
51. RUF CTR3 3.2 s
52. Pagani Zonda C12-F Clubsport Roadster 3.2 s
53. Veritas RS 3 3.2 s
54. Brooke Double R 320 3.2 s
55. Mosler MT900SC 3.2 s
56. Callaway C16 Speedster 3.2 s
57. Aston Martin One-77 3.2 s
58. Zenvo ST1 3.2 s
59. Nissan GT-R Spec-V 3.2 s
60. Radical SR3 SS 1500 3.2 s
61. Porsche 997 Turbo Cabriolet facelift 3.2 s
62. Noble M600 3.2 s

an 2010 911 turbo with pdk has a power to weight ratio of 314.33 hp/tonne
but a gt2 rs with 580 ps and 1400kg has an establishing 408.62 hp/tonne

but the 580 ps is just a rumor it probably wouldn't pass 560 ps. but weight 40 kg seems easy to save and they can save more.

klier said:

And don't get me wrong.....a GT2 RS is still a wet dream....

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I have had many wet dreams come true and I guess the GT2 RS will not be the last