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Old 11-07-2006, 03:02 PM   #1
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Driven M5 E60: manual 6-speed

from a member over at m5board.com
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/sho...187#post891187

Smoother than my E39, shifter all leather like my E34 M, this one had the brushed trim, not sure if you ordered the walnut if you would get a combo wood leather shifter like my E39. Nope you can't Turn off the DSC, so you have M dynamic mode, the " permissive stay up late nanny" or shall we say"Naughty Nanny". The ashtray is missing, actually didn't look to see if there was one , all I saw was what the pictures show..
She shifts well and pulls very well through all gears, must say I do like the feel of having my hands on the gear shift, I guess it's because of what I'm used to. The shift gate is no tighter, expect you still could add a short shift kit if so inclined>
You do wonder where the tranny is from???? E39 Upgrade??New design for E60??? Will it stay the course? >>> But those same questions are valid for the SMG also....It all depends what feels good at the time you make the decision...
So now I need to make my bed and sleep in it... SMG or 6 Speed....
Really enjoyed the ride...


Just remembered a couple of other things on the 6 speed during my drive..
1. On the HUD you can't see and gear numbers, not available with the 6speed, so you only see the speed and the RPM curve..
2. Think what they did was remove the cigarette lighter and put the MDC button there. and figured not lighter, then you don't need a lid..so we'll make it a whatever you wanna call it hold anything box...
3. Also says in the new brochure: "Steering wheel paddles(duh) and Drivelogic center center console DSC buttons are not available with the optional transmission.



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Re: Driven M5 E60: manual 6-speed

Interesting, i would have hoped you would have been able to turn the DSC off. Either way, the 6 speed 'box is my choice for the M5.
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Re: Driven M5 E60: manual 6-speed

for the track, SMG is the way to go
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Re: Driven M5 E60: manual 6-speed

Wait so you can't turn off DSC? So what happens in M mode then?
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Re: Driven M5 E60: manual 6-speed

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for the track, SMG is the way to go
For sure But i'm a manual man, i prefer the "old fashioned" way
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Re: Driven M5 E60: manual 6-speed

Sorry, SMG. The S85 and SMG III were made for one another, so no need to break them up.
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Re: Driven M5 E60: manual 6-speed

Me, too. I don't want to miss all the fan. Not to mention the control of the car...
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Re: Driven M5 E60: manual 6-speed

a owner and his manual M5 E60

http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=83917
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Re: Driven M5 E60: manual 6-speed

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Wait so you can't turn off DSC? So what happens in M mode then?
"The 6speed tranny feels the exact same as my E39 M5 and E46 M3 so I don't think its anything revolutionary! Nice and smooth like all BMW man. trans! Love it so far! Yes there is no sport button, you must do it all through the M button, which doesn't matter to me because its the first thing I hit everytime I drive it anyway! And yes DSC CANNOT be disabled completely, but it does have the DSC mode from the M3 competition package which allows the car to get a bit more "loose" before bringing it back. So from what my M3 Comp. friends have said you can still have some fun. I am hoping a tuner will come out with somthing for this issue though, wouldn't mind taking it off completely"
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Good news for the minority that wanted the 6 spd. E92 M3 please w/ DCT, if not then 6 spd.
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Re: Driven M5 E60: manual 6-speed

Is there going to be a six speed M6?
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Is there going to be a six speed M6?
That too for the U.S. only again.
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Re: Driven M5 E60: manual 6-speed

A manual version will definitely be more reliable than SMG.
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Re: Driven M5 E60: manual 6-speed

Totally, completely, utterly awesome.
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Re: Driven M5 E60: manual 6-speed

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Totally, completely, utterly awesome.
sick, you need new tires every week i guess!!!

ps: i bet jc will like it a lot!!!!!!!
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Re: Driven M5 E60: manual 6-speed

So the 6 spd. tranny won't be seen in the European M5?
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Re: Driven M5 E60: manual 6-speed

Hahaha, yes, you're right. We really would need new tyres every week if we were to have the 6-speed M5 Dyna....

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ps: i bet jc will like it a lot!!!!!!!
Yeah, he would totally love it indeed. Too bad it's for our American friends only.



BMer, sadly no. I find that very strange though. BMW should offer everything they have on it's home continent!
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BMer, sadly no. I find that very strange though. BMW should offer everything they have on it's home continent!
Very true, klier. I wonder what will be the transmission policy with the next M3...
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Re: Driven M5 E60: manual 6-speed

Here's hoping we can choose from the manual 6-speed and 7 speed SMG 3.5
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Re: Driven M5 E60: manual 6-speed

This is what you call a quick fix . the USA market went about requesting a manual transmission for the M5 BMW simply utilised the transmission which was already available for the 5er . BMW are not offering the transmission in europe because the marketing in europe is connected to BMW's F1 business with regards to the SMG III transmission - So by bringing out a manual could almost make SMG III and BMW's marketing redundant . And of course there has been no major demand for a manual gearbox in Europe - Besides the SMG III is quite an achievement.
The M3 will be offered with SMG and another transmission currently in development.
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So both SMG and DCT for the next M3? Now that's interesting...
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The M3 will be offered with SMG and another transmission currently in development.
The other transmssion could be a manual!
The german supplier LUK presented a new twin plate clutch for manual transmission and said that this system will be used in the M5 (!?); they could mean the M3 instead!?
http://www.luk.de/content.luk.de/de/....jsp?id=426964

Offering SMG and ZSG but no manual makes not to much sense.

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The other transmssion could be a manual!
The german supplier LUK presented a new twin plate clutch for manual transmission and said that this system will be used in the M5 (!?); they could mean the M3 instead!?
http://www.luk.de/content.luk.de/de/....jsp?id=426964

Offering SMG and ZSG but no manual makes not to much sense.

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the article were published in october and M5 is now offered with manual and probably with this new so called manual
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the article were published in october and M5 is now offered with manual and probably with this new so called manual
Initially i thought that too but then found out that the 6 speed manual in the US M5 E60 is the "old" manual transmission already used in the 550! So we have a new manual and no use for it according to BMW!?

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Re: Driven M5 E60: manual 6-speed

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Initially i thought that too but then found out that the 6 speed manual in the US M5 E60 is the "old" manual transmission already used in the 550! So we have a new manual and no use for it according to BMW!?

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Your source? Because I find it hard to believe that LuK would make a press release where they mention M5 and 507 hp if it's not even used in the car...
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