M3/M4 Your predictions on the upcoming M3 V8 CSL
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Let's see who have the best guess
My predictions:
440hp/420nm
70 kg less than a standard M3
R-tires and DCT standard
Hmm, I can't see how BMW will squeeze out another 20hp out of that engine without increasing the displacement.
Zafiro
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PanterroR
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Centurion
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The old one E46 didn't have increased displacement, yet it had 17hp more...
I guess that's possible now when I have done some research. Apparently the E92 M3 engine isn't any more stressed than the E46 M3 engine was, only 3hp more per liter. So I guess it is possible to squeeze out more power with some exceptional engineering.
Other than that I have high expectations and hopefully BMW will be able to strip down the weight at least 50-100kg.
PanterroR
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Exactly! Imo, weight reducing would help more than those 20 hp or so... 100kilos less? Bring it on!
Mr Robert
Kraftwagen König
434 Hp, 420 Nm.
M-DCT - for sure.
R-tires will be neccessary - just look at how different other cars that are available with both R-tires and standard tires perform.
The weight loss will be no more than 50-60 kg.
Question is if theese stats will do in competing with the E46 CSL?
M-DCT - for sure.
R-tires will be neccessary - just look at how different other cars that are available with both R-tires and standard tires perform.
The weight loss will be no more than 50-60 kg.
Question is if theese stats will do in competing with the E46 CSL?
Centurion
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Yeah, that weight loss seem to be reasonable. The car already has a CF roof, so there isn't a whole lot to of unnecessary weight to loose. Unpainted CF bonnet maybe?
vedjo01
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Quite possible,I would say.And that increase in rpm would give extra 15-20 HP minimum po power figure,atleast.I wouldn´t be suprised if CSL will have over 450 HP,just look new Ferrari 430 Scuderia V-8 for example(510 HP from 4,3 litre,if I´m correct)
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NarutoRamen
Kraftwagen König
My take 450hp and revs increase to 8600rpm
About 150-300lbs shaved off.
About 150-300lbs shaved off.
Mr. Chigga_Chan
Quattro Commander
Atleast 440-450. Weight savings...couple hundred pounds. Its not really the power gain, its the weight savings that will make this car even more of a monster!
This thing is going to slay tracks like nothing
This thing is going to slay tracks like nothing
Mr Robert
Kraftwagen König
I say hardly over 450... I'd question even those numbers...440 seems more realistic... But my fellow Croat vedjo01 has the point: think what Ferrari done with F430 Scuderia...Everything's possible...
That would be so sick! With the same power output that would give 472 Hp - i think that is not going to happen. Maybe my prediction of 434 Hp was a bit conservative but I think it will be much closer to the truth than 472 Hp.
Mr Robert
Kraftwagen König
Ferrari managed to pull those numbers without increasing displacement too; Standard F430 - 4308cm3 and Scuderia also 4308 cm3... Revs to 8500...
BMW can do that too, but that car would slaughter both M5 & M6 (till CSL version comes) in every possible way...
They managed it allright! Question is at what service cycle? At what life expectancy for the engine... 200,000 kilometers or 60,000? I do not know how long the M-division calculates that their engine will run but a figure closer to 470 Hp on such a large engine should cripple the life expectancy.
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