Presentation of the Audi R10 “Live” on the Internet


In terms of diesels in motorsport, the Germans are a leader at it and I absolutely love it. Not only is the R10 very powerful, but it will be more economical than the others, meaning it will dominate the LeMans I think (as long as it is reliable).

If I remember correctly, didn't a 320d win in it's category the 24h Nurburgring?

Diesels are so cool :cool:
 
I hope AUdi continues to dominate and maybe that might shift the North American mentality when it comes to Diesels.
 
Snake Vargas said:
I thought that it's not that diesels were inherently heavy, though high compression ratios would probably require a slightly heavier/stronger block and heads than the equivalent petrol spark ignition engine. Wouldn't the main cause be that most diesels so far are cast iron blocks?

Hasn't BMW or someone now got an alloy-block diesel?
Right, both Audis (4.2L) and Mercedes (4.0L) V8s weigh around 260kg I believe. They are aluminum blocks with iron cylinder linings.

Anyways, some of the engine figures are a bit dissapointing namely the torque figure for a turbo diesel is rather low. The Mercedes lowtech 5.5L V12 will make this much power and more torque with a simple ecu tweak. :confused:
 
Audiholic said:
Some questions:

*What do you think the R10 does 0-100km/h in?
*What is the NM of a F1 car?

i think it will do 0-100 km/h in ~3's, 0 100 MPH in about 5.2 seconds. a F1 car has only about 300 lb-ft.....that not much at all and it is a fact.....crazy. :confused:
 
YESSS!!! With that much torque and hp while being light-wieght...this car will kick a**....im suprised its lighter than the R8.....the R8 was 911kg
 
The engine is all-aluminium but the engineers are still working to get the weight down to the minimum of 925kg. oh well
 
Are traction control systems allowed in GT competition racing? That thing might have problems with 1100Nm and only 900kg.
 
Is it FSI

The announcement says that the R10 uses a 'common rail' injection technology. Does that mean it doesn't use FSI?

On a related note, do Audi's TDI engines use similar direct injection as the petrol FSI engines? :confused:
 
Re: Is it FSI

This is an article you might find useful:

VW says goodbye to TDI, hello to common-rail

VW will be dumping its line of TDI diesels by 2007 and switching to a common-rail design for all of its oil-burners, with annual production of the new engines totaling over 2 million units. This announcement can probably be taken as evidence that mechanical diesel injection has reached its practical limits, despite the relatively high level of refinement that VW has achieved using the technology. Indeed, there will probably be a number of faithful TDI owners who see no reason to give up the system that has brought respectable power and refinement to passenger-car diesels.

Current TDI products sold here in the states uses a four-port radial injection pump, driven off the timing belt, to achieve the 20,000 PSI or so needed for directly injecting fuel into the cylinder, while VW diesel engines sold elsewhere are available with an innovative system that uses one pump assembly per cylinder. Both systems rely on complex electromechanical and electrohydraulic means to control the volume and timing of fuel delivery. It’s expensive, somewhat finicky (a diesel mechanic in a good mood is indeed quite rare), and doesn’t offer the exacting control over the injection sequence that’s required to meet upcoming emissions targets and customer expectations.

Common-rail injection systems operate much like standard gasoline port injection systems, with a single pump pressuring one or more fuel rails (depending on the physical layout of the engine, there’s usually one rail per cylinder bank), and electrically-actuated injectors providing precise control over fuel delivery. The main difference is the pressures involved - 20,000 PSI and beyond, compared to 40-55 PSI for a typical port injection system. Obviously, it takes one heck of an electromechanical injector to open and close at such pressures, but the technology has come a long ways in recent years, and such systems are quickly obsolescing mechanical injection pumps just as EFI replaced carburetors two decades ago. This system is far less complex from a mechanical standpoint, and things such as multi-pulse fuel delivery become easy to implement.

http://www.autoblog.com/entry/1234000287064152/
 
Re: Is it FSI

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Audi V12 TDI: a quantum leap in diesel technology

The heart of the Audi R10 is a completely new V12 TDI engine with a cubic capacity of 5.5 litres – the maximum permitted at Le Mans. Audi ventures into previously unexplored diesel-engine terrain with power exceeding 650 hp and torque of more than 1100 Newton metres from the V12 power plant. “This engine is the specifically most powerful diesel there is in the world and, up until now, the biggest challenge that Audi Sport has ever faced in its long history,” explains Ulrich Baretzky, Head of Engine Technology at Audi Sport. “There has never been anything remotely comparable. We started development with a clean sheet of paper.”

The V12 TDI used in the R10 is the first Audi diesel engine with an aluminium crank case. The cylinder-bank angle is 90 degrees. The V12 TDI has, like Audi production car engines, four valves per cylinder and twin overhead camshafts. The fuel induction is made by a modern “Common Rail System”. The injection pressure easily exceeds the 1600 bar achieved in production cars. The ignition pressures also reach values never previously seen in any Audi engine.

The turbo pressure produced by the two Garrett turbochargers is limited by the regulations to 2.94 bars absolute, the diameter of both engine air intake restrictors, stipulated by the regulations, is 2 x 39.9 millimetres. The engine management is controlled by the latest generation of Bosch Motronic (MS14).

The engine’s power and the high torque are available to the driver practically from idling speed – a speciality of diesel technology, to which the Audi drivers must now become accustomed. The usable power band lies between 3000 and 5000 revs per minute.

Unfamiliar to the driver at this early stage, is the low noise level and, unique for a racing engine, the smooth running V12 TDI power unit. At high speeds the powerful 650 hp engine can not be heard from the Audi R10 prototype’s “open” cockpit while there is also hardly any vibration. On the outside, the modern twelve-cylinder produces a faint, but sonorous sound that quite possibly nobody would identify as a diesel power unit at first. The new R10 can only be recognised acoustically as a diesel-powered sportscar during the warming-up process or in the pit lane.

There are no visual signs that a diesel power unit is at work in the back of the R10. It goes without saying that the V12 TDI is equipped with a pair of diesel particle filters for the 24 Hours of Le Mans. Flashes of flame from the exhaust, which are created by unburned petrol in spark-ignition engines, are not seen coming from the R10.

One of the diesel engine’s biggest advantages is the low fuel consumption, especially at part-throttle and overrun. However, when compared to more classic circuits which demand a higher ratio of part throttle, the lower specific consumption will hardly be noticeable at Le Mans because the quota of full-throttle is almost 75 percent.

The enormous torque of over 1,100 Newton metres not only posed previously unforeseen demands in the development of the R10 drive train. Even the latest generation of engine dynamometers at Audi Sport had to be reequipped with special gearboxes capable of withstanding the unusual forces.

Inside the V12 TDI, the extremely high pressures in particular create forces never seen before in a racing engine. However, the main target of the Audi technicians is to reach the reliability level of the R8, which never recorded a single engine failure in the 77 races it has contested to date.

Source: www.autoblog.com
 
Audi4Life said:
it is the R8's successor...thats why
I still don't get it. Then why not R9? Are we moving in increments of two? Haha, I just don't understand the significance.
 
Re: Is it FSI

Sickening! :bowdown: Btw, does anyone know what will be the V-max of that car? I'd really like to know that... I predict that for the 1st time ever we'll see a diesel going over 300 kmh... :t-drive: :usa7uh:

:t-cheers:
 
And wow, nice boost of 42.64 psi. I don't know much about boost on race cars, but that is obviously a lot compared to any production car.
 
Carbon said:
And wow, nice boost of 42.64 psi. I don't know much about boost on race cars, but that is obviously a lot compared to any production car.
Around 3 to 4 times, if not more...that's compared to a tuned car. That is a huge amount of boost
 

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