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[klier]

I’ve also noticed that a ICE CLA 220 is more expensive than a C300 . Crazy times. It’s overall more expensive than C-Class in every occasion.

Pretty much equal to an iX3, LMAO.

Absolutely ridiculous, this is a 30k car. Boggles my mind why anyone would buy an FWD econobox over a less expensive proper RWD Benz? What am I missing?

 

[Uygar]

Pretty much equal to an iX3, LMAO.

Absolutely ridiculous, this is a 30k car. Boggles my mind why anyone would buy an FWD econobox over a less expensive proper RWD Benz? What am I missing?

Crazy times. Cars are getting so expensive.

 

[SKY]

Crazy times. Cars are getting so expensive.

Not all cars are getting as expensive. We are paying for the mistakes of the EU. Germany has higher employee costs, higher energy costs, the union representatives sit on the board of the companies... This obviously is different in countries that operate under a dictatorship model.

Not an expert in Germany, so probably some of our German members can correct me or complement what I just said, but I feel German cars have increased prices the most during the past 5 years.

 

[Design FIRST]

Not all cars are getting as expensive. We are paying for the mistakes of the EU. Germany has higher employee costs, higher energy costs, the union representatives sit on the board of the companies... This obviously is different in countries that operate under a dictatorship model.

Not an expert in Germany, so probably some of our German members can correct me or complement what I just said, but I feel German cars have increased prices the most during the past 5 years.

Price gouging is quite rampant in Germany, especially since the COVID pandemic and the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Not only have auto manufacturers been guilty of this. Currently, there is on ongoing contraversy regarding, for example, the prices of many essential foodstuffs and housing/rental costs. Price inflation that involves blatant cash grabbing. Certainly, thoughtless sprawling regulation also plays a role. A plague that so many Germans recognize-and yet, nothing palpable seems to be ever initiated in order to rein it in. Our bureaucracies can be likened to an all you can eat buffet party in which it is the host as well as the guest, feeding itself into morbid obesity. Probably not only a "German Thing", I suppose.

At least we can get good quality,relatively inexpensive Chinese electronic devices over Amazon. This will carry over to automobiles, I suspect.

 

[wagnechris]

Price gouging is quite rampant in Germany, especially since the COVID pandemic and the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Not only have auto manufacturers been guilty of this. Currently, there is on ongoing contraversy regarding, for example, the prices of many essential foodstuffs and housing/rental costs. Price inflation that involves blatant cash grabbing. Certainly, thoughtless sprawling regulation also plays a role. A plague that so many Germans recognize-and yet, nothing palpable seems to be ever initiated in order to rein it in. Our bureaucracies can be likened to an all you can eat buffet party in which it is the host as well as the guest, feeding itself into morbid obesity. Probably not only a "German Thing", I suppose.

At least we can get good quality,relatively inexpensive Chinese electronic devices over Amazon. This will carry over to automobiles, I suspect.

Exactly, those that were partly produced in exploitative and inhumane conditions and are, for the most part, simply dangerous and substandard.
I'd rather pay a little more for occupational safety and humanity. Live and let live!

 

[leylandi]

 

[TATE]

Tim Woolmer 3e et +
CTO at YASA Motors

3 h.

Sometimes the only way to achieve the impossible is to target the ridiculous.At YASA, the challenge we set ourselves was - on paper at least - simple: create the world’s first sports car in-wheel motor with 𝐳𝐞𝐫𝐨 𝐮𝐧𝐬𝐩𝐫𝐮𝐧𝐠-𝐦𝐚𝐬𝐬 𝐚𝐝𝐝𝐢𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧. Our customers loved the idea, but the brief was absolute: don’t add a single gram to the wheel.🏋To make that happen, we needed two big mindset shifts:1) Rear motors had to handle not only traction but the full force of braking – around 𝟲𝟱𝟬𝗸𝗪 𝗽𝗲𝗿 𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗿 𝘄𝗵𝗲𝗲𝗹 in a high-performance sports EV.2) Carbon-ceramic discs are incredibly light. At just 𝟭𝟯.𝟵𝗸𝗴 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝟰𝟳𝗸𝗪/𝗸𝗴, the motor had to surpass the state-of-the-art (~23kW/kg at project start) to get close to mass neutrality.Two years later, I’m excited to introduce YASA's in-wheel concept! 𝗔 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝘁𝗼𝘁𝘆𝗽𝗲 𝗺𝗮𝘀𝘀-𝗻𝗲𝘂𝘁𝗿𝗮𝗹** 𝗶𝗻-𝘄𝗵𝗲𝗲𝗹 𝗺𝗼𝘁𝗼𝗿 that combines our 59kW/kg motor, upright, wheel bearing, and transmission into a 750kW (1000hp), 4,000Nm magnetic beast .𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗶𝗺𝗽𝗮𝗰𝘁: over 200kg of hardware removed (rear EDU, driveshafts, CVs, cradle, and even the carbon-ceramic brakes). And if you design the EV around it - taking advantage of mass de-compounding, a smaller battery, and higher regen capability - that 200 kg saving can more than double. It’s still early days, and the system remains very much in the testing and development phase, but it shows how in-wheel architectures could redefine what an electric sports car can be: 𝗹𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝗲𝗿, 𝗳𝗮𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗿 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗺𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝗲𝗳𝗳𝗶𝗰𝗶𝗲𝗻𝘁. Interested to hear what you think - add your questions or comments below.#AxialFlux #InWheelMotor #EVPerformance #ElectricDrive #PowerDensity #DeepTech #EVEngineering #Prototype**Mass neutrality assumes 13.9kg brake removed, ½ a driveshaft (4kg), 12.7kg motor & 5.5kg transmission added. Wheel bearing & upright & rim all optimised for application. A lightweight emergency brake available within the package if functional safety requires it.

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