Videos Awesome Aviation Videos!!!!

Bozzor

Bozzor

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Gentlemen, this is officially some of the most amazing stuff I have seen. Two links...

http://www.electronicaviation.com/downloads.php?cat=Video

All are great, but special mention must be made of:

*F4 Phantom atomizing against a concrete wall
*Guy sucked into an A6 intake
*Mig-29 with vectored thrust doing some mind blowing stunts
*F-18 takes out an A-4 by accident
*F-15 mid air collision from inside the cockpit

http://www.alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm

Hands underneath the chins because your jaws are going to hit the floor here. Some of the more stunning ones...

*A320 doing a climb that would make an F-15 proud...
*Some sick cross wind landings - please wear your nappies when watching
*Aerobatics championship in Japan (check out the babe in the Sukhoi :t-roses: )
*Wings tearing off a plane due to high G climb
*Guy KNOCKED out by a low flying plane wing!!! (he lived, so don't pass out when you see this)
*Hard landing causing a planes rear section to snap off...

...and much more!

ENJOY!!!
 
PanterroR

PanterroR

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Bozz, this is great! Thanks a million, mate! I'm really fan of planes, especially Fs and MIGs... Great site, mate, thanks once again!:bowdown: :usa7uh:

:t-cheers:
 
Michael

Michael

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TycoonGTR said:
Bozz, this is great! Thanks a million, mate! I'm really fan of planes, especially Fs and MIGs... Great site, mate, thanks once again!:bowdown: :usa7uh:

:t-cheers:
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I love the A320 departure, but I wonder what the pilot was thinking. With those fly by wire joysticks he may think that he is flying a fighter jet!

All in all it is not banking that hard as compared to what it could've done. The camera man zooms in giving you the illusion that it is worse than what it is because you can't compare it to the ground.

Bozz is that you in the avater?
 
Bozzor

Bozzor

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Ha, yes that is me in the Avatar: never know when Keira might stop buy and suddenly realise that I'm The One, so you gotta advertise the goods!:D

At worst, these videos are OK, and the best ones are mind blowing. There is a nice one that shows you what a birdstrike can do to a multi-million dollar trainer. And there is a scary one of a Sukhoi crashing right in front of spectators.

Here are some of my other favourites for various reasons...

http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/2006-3-28_JSFTakeOff.wmv

The one below is just terrifying...look at the first few seconds of this and just imagine what it was like for the spectators...

http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/2006-3-26_Su_27UBCrashinLviv.wmv
 
PanterroR

PanterroR

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Bozzor said:
Ha, yes that is me in the Avatar: never know when Keira might stop buy and suddenly realise that I'm The One, so you gotta advertise the goods!:D
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:ROFLMAO: Haha! I told ya it was him.:usa7uh:

Holy cr@p, man, that was disaster! :t-hair: Where was that video taken?

:t-cheers:
 
K

Khaled

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Great videos Boz! I wonder what your opinions are for which would win in a fight: The F-22 Raptor or the Su-37 Superflanker? How about the JSF, you think the Su-47 will stand a chance?
 
Bozzor

Bozzor

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TycoonGTR, are you talking about the SU-27 crash? That was in an airshow in Ukraine I think...

Hey Khaled, am I talking to a married man now :D ???!!! I really do not know which would win. I know the F-22 has had to compromise a little its agility for stealth, so close up (i.e. less than 2 km) the Su-37 could beat it in some cases, but if you had the two planes approaching from 200 km apart head on, the Raptor would kill the Su-37 before it even knew what was there. In just about every case, the Raptor would know about the Su-37 rather than the other way round, and that would be pretty much it for the Flanker.

The JSF, hmmm, well that is trickier: it is a smaller plane and less stealthy, with a smaller radar and thus lersser detection range. But the reality is that these days, the classic WW1 & 2 close in dogfight is going to be a rare event. American AWACS and some other ground based radar technology can detect aircraft from miles away, direct fighters in and tell them the optimal way/time/place to launch their missles. It will be rare for planes to have a knife fight...but man, they will be even more fun to watch!

MikeJ...go on, have a bit of a peek!:D

AlxAmg and NarutoRamen, keep checking these sites every few weeks, they have updates now and then.
 
bmwrules

bmwrules

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Here some more info about the F22 Raptor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-22_Raptor

Here's an interesting link comparing 21st century aircraft.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_21st_century_fighter_aircraft

One of the more interesting parts of the comparison is this.

Britain's Defence Evaluation and Research Agency (now split into QinetiQ and DSTL) did an evaluation (simulation based on the available data) comparing the Typhoon with some other modern fighters in how well they performed against an expected adversary aircraft, the Sukhoi Su-35. Due to the lack of information gathered on the 5th generation combat aircraft and the Su-35 during the time of this study it is not meant to be considered official.

The study used real pilots flying the JOUST system of networked simulators. Various western aircraft supposed data were put in simulated combat against the Su-35. The results were:
Aircraft Odds vs. Su-35
Lockheed Martin/Boeing F-22 Raptor 10.1:1
Eurofighter Typhoon 4.5:1
Sukhoi Su-35 'Flanker' 1.0:1
Dassault Rafale C 1.0:1
McDonnell Douglas F-15C Eagle 0.8:1
Boeing F/A-18+ 0.4:1
McDonnell Douglas F/A-18C 0.3:1
General Dynamics F-16C 0.3:1
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Bozzor

Bozzor

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I recall this discussion. It is hard to actually read much into this unless you know what you are doing: two aircraft flying head on...do they know somehting is out there? Or one aircraft high, one low? There are two many variables here to read too much into this data.

As to the link comparing planes, very interetsing comments. The old school of tight turning, fast climbing and raopidly accelerating plane is now negated by off boresight missiles: there is no longer a need to align a planes nose with the target. You simple turn yourhead to where the target is, the missiles seeker follows and lock on and away.

This is perhaps why the F-22 is so deadly. It can see you before you see it and kill you before you know what hit you. Even if Russian planes are more agile in a close in dog fight, they will never get the chance to use that edge.

Btw, here are some ideas of Russian answers to the F-22...

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Khaled

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Bozzor said:
TycoonGTR, are you talking about the SU-27 crash? That was in an airshow in Ukraine I think...

Hey Khaled, am I talking to a married man now :D ???!!! I really do not know which would win. I know the F-22 has had to compromise a little its agility for stealth, so close up (i.e. less than 2 km) the Su-37 could beat it in some cases, but if you had the two planes approaching from 200 km apart head on, the Raptor would kill the Su-37 before it even knew what was there. In just about every case, the Raptor would know about the Su-37 rather than the other way round, and that would be pretty much it for the Flanker.

The JSF, hmmm, well that is trickier: it is a smaller plane and less stealthy, with a smaller radar and thus lersser detection range. But the reality is that these days, the classic WW1 & 2 close in dogfight is going to be a rare event. American AWACS and some other ground based radar technology can detect aircraft from miles away, direct fighters in and tell them the optimal way/time/place to launch their missles. It will be rare for planes to have a knife fight...but man, they will be even more fun to watch!

MikeJ...go on, have a bit of a peek!:D

AlxAmg and NarutoRamen, keep checking these sites every few weeks, they have updates now and then.
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Yep, happily married for nealry two years now! How about you, any social life at the moment?;)

Interesting to see how different the approaches are. Seems that now the next step is Plasma stealth technology. Seems the Russians are further ahead in this researchm they could probably have prototypes already running. Also Russians are extansively working on anti-stealth radar technology. Remember that F-117A that was shot down in Serbia? Rumor has it these were Russians testing anti-stealth technology. But will any of this be enough to defend their interests? I think not.
 
Bozzor

Bozzor

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Hey good to hear!

Social life is pretty good this end but nothing long term. I think the kinder people here would call me a player, playboy or the like...but in actuality I am little more than a dirty little male slut...:t-rot:

I'll go on the record now and say this: plasma stealth for aircraft is most likely rubbish. It does not yet exist. This stuff was mentioned years ago by the Russians and there is not one bit of evidence that they have managed to get it working. It could work in theory, but creating such a ball of plasma at high speed consistently seems to be not possible yet. But having said that, the B-2 is supposed to do something similar to the leading edge of the aircraft, but this could be just talk...

That F-117A, there are a lot of rumours going around as to how it was shot down. It is known that low frequency radar (or maybe even cell phone transmission towers) can detect stealth aircraft, or perhaps the wake disturbance they make in the air. But the other rumours go that the plane's flight path was made known to the Serbs by someone in the Greek armed forces who was sympathetic to the Serbs. The Serbs then trained their radars on that path and managed to detect it and shoot it down. Stealth only goes so far...

I am sure the Americans have lots of even more amazing planes behind the scenes, guess we will see them if the (probably) inevitable happens with Iran...
 
Michael

Michael

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Something I want to point out is Russian design for airplanes. Whether it be commercial or military they have some very interesting design. They don't pay much attention to whether the airplanes design is nice rather they care more about its function. I am sure it stems from the ideological beliefs that had throughout the cold war. Function is what is important not beauty.

Now take a look at American planes. They are sexy aren't! This is obviously subjective but for the most part I would like to believe that this is true.

It also seems like they have copied a lot of american designs. Here is one example.

American Boeing 727
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Russian Yakovlev Yak-42D
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Michael

Michael

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Here are some examples of the "function" design from Russia. Thanks to airliners.net I have been able to supplement these photos to you.

Verry interesting to say the least
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They are not pretty girls but they serve a purpose, or at least that is what the Russian designer thought.
 

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