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Autobild: 1M vs RS3 vs Focus RS500

Discussion in 'Internal Combustion' started by Just_me, Apr 14, 2011.

  1. Just_me

    Just_me Well-Known Member

    Coming next issue. South promised a translation and DeDe will probably post the scans. Not much info for now.

    0–100 km/h 4,6 s 4,9 s 5,6 s
    0–200 km/h 17,5 s 17,3 s k.A.

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  2. donkeykong

    donkeykong Well-Known Member

    should be good can't wait
  3. Centurion

    Centurion Well-Known Member Premium Member Contributing Member

    Those are the hottest hatches in the world. Interestingly the R32 didn't make the comparison, but results should be insightful and glorious.
  4. PanterroR

    PanterroR Well-Known Member

    1M owns them in looks department big time! :usa7uh:

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  5. DeDe

    DeDe Well-Known Member Contributing Member

    It is just a first drive comparison, so no measured data or tracktime... :t-hands:

    I will scan the article tonight.
  6. Just_me

    Just_me Well-Known Member

    I know but full story coming next issue AB Sportcar they say.....
  7. DeDe

    DeDe Well-Known Member Contributing Member

    It's already out. I got that issue, it's a 10-page driving impression...
    (AutoBild Sportscars 05/2011)
  8. martinbo

    martinbo Global Moderator / Editor Staff Member

    We're missing one: the WRX STI Spec C.

    R32 - As in VW Golf R32? Surely you mean Golf R? Nah, it got walloped by Evo X and WRX STI a few issues back in EVO. Suffers from a distinct lack of rear-end mobility - something that afflicts the RS3 too, in spite of Audi putting narrower tyres on the rear axle than the front.

    The RS500 I hear is an absolute blast. Pity they don't make 'em no more.

    In the end, the star of this show has to be the 1M - with its silky straight six, manual box and slippy rear M-diff, the 1M is without doubt the most appealing drivers car here.
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  9. conneem

    conneem Active Member

    Was that what they concluded to in the article?
  10. martinbo

    martinbo Global Moderator / Editor Staff Member

    Nope, those are solely my opinions on the matter. :)
  11. FC123

    FC123 Well-Known Member

    How very nice, that a manual 6-speed proves faster to 200 than a DSG-equipped car of comparable power.
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  12. Beemer B773ER

    Beemer B773ER Well-Known Member

    Does it ever! Everything about it, front, side, rear...visually fantastic! :bowdown:

    What could be a possible reason/s for this?

    Is it Audi being lazy with their gearing, much like they were with the RS5's (lazy as in, not the optimal gearing) ?
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  13. FC123

    FC123 Well-Known Member

    Perhaps, it may be geared for 0-160, and then more for economy at higher speeds. It may be just a difference in gearing, meaning the Audi is quicker to 220. Honestly, at such a little difference everything could play into it.

    Won't stop us debating the crap out of it. ;)

    Is the 1M lighter?
  14. Beemer B773ER

    Beemer B773ER Well-Known Member

    One thing I just noticed after doing a quick search. The 100 and 200km/h acceleration figures for the 1M are both identical to its quoted times.

    Considering Just_Me stated this at the moment this is simply a 'driving impressions' test, I'm guessing they haven't put any of these cars head to head for a race to the line.
  15. Beemer B773ER

    Beemer B773ER Well-Known Member

    BMW 1M: 1,495 kg (3,296 lbs.) Source
    Audi RS3: 1,575 kg (3,473 lbs.) Source
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  16. conneem

    conneem Active Member

    Along with it's extra weight, drag could also effect the RS3 at higher speeds, it has a pretty high coeff. of 0.362 and a frontal area of 2.16m^2.
  17. DeDe

    DeDe Well-Known Member Contributing Member

    [scans] AutoBild Sportscars - RS3 vs. 1M & Focus RS500 (driving impressions)

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  18. conneem

    conneem Active Member

    Can anyone translate the conclusion please :)

    Something about, the RS3 takes an advantage with it's traction. Nevertheless the duel of the year is completely open. Come the curves the BMW revels.

    That's about as far as my German stretches.
  19. FC123

    FC123 Well-Known Member

    That would explain it, I do think the times given in these tests, are not actually ones measured by the magazine.
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  20. Human

    Human You. The Road. Nothing else. Premium Member


    Without a doubt!:usa7uh:

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