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2020 Mercedes-AMG Hypercar

Discussion in 'The Mercedes-Benz Lounge' started by JHF, Feb 25, 2015.

  1. Matski

    Matski Member

    Moers said they were using the F1 powertrain "as it was", so technically the 1600cc V6 AND electric motor (via the crank) will power the rear wheels, with the MGU-K an MGU-H providing a supply of electricity which could then in turn be used to power a totally separate front mounted motor (as well as powering the engine and the turbo). If the total output of the F1 system is 1000hp (according to Toto), and now they're adding an e-motor, but still only claiming 1000hp total output, I'd guess they've detuned the V6 (plus MGU-K) by about 200-300hp to help reliability.
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    • rs271

      rs271 Well-Known Member Contributing Member

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      Mercedes-AMG hypercar will debut in Frankfurt
      Deliveries will begin sometime in 2019.

      If you’re like us, you’re on the edge of your seat for the debut of the Mercedes-AMG hypercar, said to be named Project One. After speaking to Mercedes-AMG boss Tobias Moers at the Detroit Auto Show this week, we can confirm that the car will make its public debut at the Frankfurt Motor Show in September, and it’s going to be really, really special.

      Moers smiles as he talks about the new hypercar, which will bring a host of Formula One technology to the road. The powertrain will be mostly carryover from the company’s championship-winning W07 Hybrid racer – yes, the 1.6-liter engine, electric motors, and split-turbo systems will all remain largely intact. The only change, Moers says, will be bringing the engine idle down from 4,000 rpm to something more civilized. Of course, in the opposite direction, Moers says the engine will still rev to somewhere north of 10,000 rpm in the production car.

      When the hypercar debuts in Frankfurt, the total allocation will already be pre-sold, with deliveries expected to begin in 2019. But as for rumors there will be a followup or second version, Moers says we can expect “just one” variant.

      With an estimated 1,000 horsepower (735 kilowatts) on hand, Mercedes-AMG says this will be “probably the most fascinating two seater that will ever hit the road.” Game on. We can’t wait for September.

      Source: motor1
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      • kingjr9000

        kingjr9000 Member

        So its not like the Veyron, then. Odd.
      • kingjr9000

        kingjr9000 Member

        2018 Mercedes-AMG Project One hypercar to be unveiled at Frankfurt motor show
        1000bhp four-wheel-drive hypercar is expected to sell out ahead of its reveal; it will have a 25km electric-only range


        The Mercedes-AMG hypercar, codenamed Project One, will be revealed at the Frankfurt motor show this autumn ahead of its launch in 2018, according to AMG boss Tobias Moers.

        At the recent Detroit motor show, Moers confirmed that the upcoming model will get 1000bhp, which is similar to the power generated by the Mercedes Formula 1 car from which the powertrain is derived. That makes it competitive with the likes of the Ferrari LaFerrari, McLaren P1, Porsche 918 Spyder and the Aston Martin and Red Bull-developed AM-RB 001.

        He also confirmed that the hypercar would have an all-wheel-drive system with an electrically driven front axle. This will enable the front wheels to be driven individually so torque can be distributed selectively – a technology already seen in the SLS AMG Electric Drive. Called AMG Torque Dynamics, it is essentially extreme active torque vectoring.

        Moers said less than 300 versions of the model would be made, costing around €2m, and expects all units to be sold before its reveal at Frankfurt. Buyers' first drives will take place in mid-2018.

        The car will have an electric range of 25km (15.5 miles) and will be one of the "most fascinating two-seaters to ever hit the road”, said Moers.

        Mercedes boss Dr Dieter Zetsche added: "Our aim is for [the Project One] to be the first street legal car with an F1 engine," he said. "Secondly, that it is perceived as the ultimate sports car. We have relatively good indications that this is possible."

        The only official visual of the model is a sketch, shown at Las Vegas's Consumer Electronics Show (CES) earlier this month, with the strapline ‘Creating benchmark driving pleasure’. The image shows a large roof scoop and louvre vents on the rear upper panel, confirming that it will be mid-engined.

        The car's body is styled around a carbonfibre monocoque similar to that used in F1.

        Formula 1 engine and tech

        The Project One will use the 1.6-litre turbocharged petrol engine found in the W07 Formula 1 race car, tuned down for the road.

        Talking about the F1-derived powertrain, Moers told Autocar: "We have to change something for sure. 3500-4000 revs is not that great for the road." He added: "The red line is over 10,000 even in the street legal car."

        Moers has previously talked about using the F1 powertrain: "Our F1 engine is far more durable than many people expect, and if you look at the load it must take in an F1 race compared to how it’s likely to be used in a street-legal machine, you can see it’s going to have a lot less work to do."

        Like the F1 engines, the road car's unit will be engineered at Mercedes-AMG High Performance Powertrains in Brixworth, Northamptonshire.

        The hypercar is also set to use both forms of energy recovery system found in modern F1 cars: the MGU-K that converts mechanical and heat energy into electrical energy that can be stored for later deployment, and the MGU-H system that takes heat from the exhaust and uses it to create electrical energy.

        It is as yet unknown how the engine will be made emissions-compliant or what kind of gearbox the car will use, as an F1 transmission would need to be heavily adapted to suit a roadgoing application.

        Development timetable

        Mercedes will begin running prototypes in October this year, and Moers has previously confirmed that Lewis Hamilton will join the team of development drivers, "when the time is right".

        Mercedes board member Ola Källenius has said the powertrain should be "unique" in the market. At the time, he emphasised that despite its hardcore nature, the car will be able to be driven on the road and will not be a track-only special edition.

        Moers said the design target for the hypercar was to create "the most efficient hypercar with an outstanding driving dynamic capability, not necessarily the most powerful". When asked what he meant by ‘efficient’, Moers simply replied: "In every respect", which indicates an unprecedented combination of power, light weight and low fuel consumption.

        The Mercedes-AMG hypercar's main rival, the AM-RB 001, was revealed in July 2016. It will also use an all-carbonfibre construction, with an F1-style carbonfibre monocoque and F1-derived performance technology. A total of between 99 and 150 cars will be built, with each costing between £2 million and £3 million each. The first owners are scheduled to receive their cars in 2018.

        Mercedes-AMG confirmation

        The Mercedes-AMG hypercar was originally confirmed by the company's head of research and development, Thomas Weber on the eve of the Paris motor show in late September 2016.

        "I am very excited to officially confirm: our next big thing at AMG is already in the pipeline," said Weber. "We are going to create an AMG performance hybrid featuring our Formula 1 drivetrain technology. Under the lead of AMG, our performance companies will join forces and create the most efficient and, at the same time, the best-performing and most spectacular AMG of all time; some might even call it a hypercar.

        "But no matter what you call it, it will definitely show how we will take our performance brand into the future with extremely efficient and intelligent drivetrain technology. Of course, there will be no compromises in terms of the emotional appeal of this car."

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        • sako97

          sako97 Well-Known Member

          MB Advanced Design Studio a few days ago:

          The three men are actually Linkin Park bandmembers doing a promo shoot with Gorden Wagener.
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          • Wolfgang

            Wolfgang Well-Known Member GCF Guru Contributing Member

            ^ Yes, great. From their "Hybrid Theory" album. :)

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            • kingjr9000

              kingjr9000 Member

              rumor from RT: minimum 1200 hp...apparently Mercedes wants to deliver a car with 1 kg per 1 horsepower weight to power ratio
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              • DjordjeC63

                DjordjeC63 Active Member

                And what is RT? Russia Today? :D
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                • hannaz

                  hannaz Well-Known Member

                  Came across this latest rendering by Jan Piesert.

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                  • kingjr9000

                    kingjr9000 Member

                    I wish! That would be a great place to get some info from(y)

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