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eni i disagree this car is usable the person who buys this car can use it in which way he wants i have seen people driving amgs or m series bmws and they barely driving 100 km.h but its the car they chose they drive it how they want..

respect to mb for making such a great car i think this is a masterpiece off a car looks mindblowing this is for shure my dream car yes i can only dream for now..................

Yes, very usable car indeed ... It can be only driven in dry & sunny conditions, at max. 40mph - otherwise it's life threating. Unless driver & passenger wear helmet ... and use an umbrella.

To me an useless car is not even a real car. It's an item. A piece of (engineering) art, yes. An automobile, no.

It's more like cloning exhibition Concepts, and offer them for sale. IMO that's exactly what's done here.

Thats your view and i disagree with you totally.Before we no the 75 will be sold and the owners will love it and i love it i suppose eni for you it has the wrong badge lol......

You remember this?



A supercar does not need to have no windshield to be useless. No ground clearance, no boot, giantic turning circle, no comfort, super-noisy, often unreliable.

On track it's hyper-expensive, extremely dangerous if not driven by Michaël Schumacher or Walter Röhrl, and not necessarily faster than a more "regular" sportcar (F430 Scuderia faster than Enzo, GT2 faster than CGT)...

But who said dreams have to be everyday-friendly? Sure this Moss is not practical. Sure it needs sunny day. Sure it must be slightly uncomfortable without helmet above 300km/h. Sure the golfbag can't fit. Sure the grandma can't fit. Sure it has a small glovebox.

But does it matter? Is it really what it is about? Do you think the owner of an SLR plus this needs to take the Moss everyday when he needs to drive somewhere?

I'm sorry, the cars that we admired, the car that are in the books, are often the least practical of all.

But if we always were reasonable, mankind would still live in a grave and fight elefants by throwing stones (and not even shoes) at them. Man is powered by his passions. And it is the passion who makes life interesting.

This car's excessiveness is all it needs to justify its existence.

Eni stop being ridiculous. Its a totally stripped down track car. So what if it doesnt have a roof. You wear a helmet and drive as fast as you want. But hold on... lets just cancel F1 as well right?? I dunno where it says in the press release that it's a car for dashing to Walmart.
The car is a statement, a technological and engineering tour de force. Hell, they'll make ONLY 75, for EXTREMELY wealthy clients and people here are moaning like MB have said this is the new mode of transport for the middle class.
Anyone questioning the point of this car really should question their own reasoning not MB's. IF it makes you happy, the car has no point, that's the point, if you get my point. Seriously though, cars like this have no 'sane' point.
But lemme guess, i'm sure some here LUVED that 'pointless' concept from BMW that 'changes color or shape' that'll never see production right??

I like this car for it's outrageous looks, but if it is a 'stripped out track car', it better have more than that.

It's not a proper track car; Caterhams, GT3 RS's, Exiges and X-Bows are track cars. Heck even the SL65AMG BS is more of a track car than this.

I think you'll like Stirling Toss rocking up at a track day with this barge.

Really?! I thought i read that it's numbers are right up there with the best of them. Also, isnt it 'stripped out' so it can 'bleed' every ounce of performance? I guess not then, maybe its just a 'stripped out' GT, with no roof...

Even More!

It surely is very very fast. It is stripped out and I think it's weight-to-power ratio must be prodigious. Some other cars are however even more impressive from that PoV, like the Catheram Levante (1000hp per ton, 0-100 under 3sec).

The Moss is not even made for that.

It's more a sculpture on wheels, a driveable piece of art, a rolling dream. Like it or not, it's down to everybody's taste.
But it's one of the most spectacular Unidentified Driving Object of modern times.

Questionning it's purpose is like asking what a paint is there for. Hell, they're not even useable as tables and too small to properly cover a wall...

One has to love MB for daring such things. They obviously make cars because they love making cars, not only to win money. Unlike the Schrempp-era Mercedes-Benz.

Press Release


Mercedes-Benz and McLaren are adding the crowning glory to the model family of their highly successful SLR super sports car with a new, uncompromisingly spectacular car. There is neither a roof nor a windscreen to separate the driver and passenger from the outside world; they enjoy unadulterated high-speed excitement with all the attributes of a speedster.
The new SLR Stirling Moss is also characterised by the most sophisticated technology and a breathtaking design which reinterprets the SLR legend. With 478 kW/650 hp the SLR Stirling Moss accelerates its V8 supercharged engine from standstill to 100 km/h in less than 3.5 seconds, and has a top speed of 350 km/h – no other series-production car is at the same time so open and so fast. This extreme concept makes the new high-performance sports car a legitimate bearer of the name of the British motor racing legend and Mille Miglia record-holder Stirling Moss, who drove the legendary Mercedes-Benz SLR racing cars from victory to victory during the 1950s.
The exclusive SLR Stirling Moss rounds off the current SLR family and is limited to 75 units. It is priced at 750,000 euros. The SLR Roadster will cease to be manufactured at the end of May 2009 as planned, and production of the SLR Stirling Moss will commence in June 2009.
Three letters are all it takes to make car fans’ hearts beat faster: SLR. In the 1950s the Mercedes-Benz SLR 300 celebrated victory after victory. It won the Mille Miglia and the Targa Florio as well as the Tourist Trophy. It was driven by the stars of the time: Juan Manual Fangio and Karl Kling – and, first and foremost, by the British racing driver Stirling Moss. At ten hours, seven minutes and 48 seconds he still holds the Mille Miglia record.
This is why the modern-day version of the legendary SLR carries the additional words “Stirling Moss” in its name. As the new SLR Stirling Moss unites the character of the current SLR models with the fascination of the SLR of 1955. The core values of both the historical and the present-day SLR models include an exciting new design, innovative technology, high-class materials displaying perfect craftsmanship, and, above all: a unique driving experience for all the senses.
Whilst the 300 SLR earned its spurs on racing circuits the world over, the new member of the SLR family is not designed for the racetrack. Although it sets new standards in terms of technology, performance and excitement – just like its forebears – it is aimed at individuals who have exquisite requirements and nurture very special dreams.
Highly puristic concept without a roof or a windscreen
Remaining totally true to the specifications of the 300 SLR, the new Silver Arrow’s equipment is extremely sophisticated and yet at the same time decidedly spartan, doing without both a roof and side windows. There are just two wind deflectors a couple of centimetres in height to protect the driver and passenger from the airflow. Two air scoops integrated into the bodywork serve as roll-over bars. With this extreme concept the new SLR Stirling Moss is visually very different from all the other vehicles which belong to the elite sports car class.
Just like the legendary racing vehicles of yesteryear, the SLR Stirling Moss dazzles with its superlative performance. Accelerating from zero to 100 km/h in less than 3.5 seconds and with a top speed of 350 km/h this puristic high-performance sports car denotes completely new dimensions in open-top driving. And not just because of the impressive performance figures; every time drivers take to the wheel of the SLR Stirling Moss their senses are addressed with a previously unheard of intensity, conveying a driving experience in its purest and most sensual form. This automotive thoroughbred thus facilitates the kind of open-air feeling that is utterly unique for a road-going vehicle.
Exciting design reminiscent of the SLR racing cars
The SLR Stirling Moss, its entire bodywork made of fine lightweight carbon fibre, represents a stand-alone design concept. Whilst the Mercedes-Benz designers were working on the body of the new SLR Stirling Moss, they were fully aware every single moment that they were creating a vehicle with a top speed of 350 km/h. At the same time this supreme athlete is highly reminiscent of the SLR racing cars from the 1950s, whose design idiom still never fails to impress to this day.
The SLR Stirling Moss sports an exciting, pronounced arrow-shaped form and is characterised by an elongated bonnet and a compact, muscular rear. As there is no windscreen, the exterior and interior flow smoothly into one. The bonnet also stretches from its striking tip right down into the interior, giving the vehicle body a distinctly sleek air. Even when standing still, the sports car radiates such dynamism that the observer immediately falls under its spell.
Further eye-catching features include two air scoops behind the driver and passenger. They carry additional roll-over bars, also uniting the traditional and the modern. The wings are powerfully contoured. Black-painted ventilation “gills” sitting facet-like on the sides and on the bonnet also cite the legend. A thrilling interplay of light and shadow ensues through the expressive lines, underlining the dynamic overall impression.
Exactly as they were on the shining historical example, the side skirts on the new SLR Stirling Moss are also very high. This prompted the designers’ decision in favour of folding swing-wing doors which open forwards.
The vehicle can be closed by two tonneau covers which are carried in the boot. When both tonneau covers and the doors are closed the SLR Stirling Moss resembles a sculpture.
In keeping with the puristic exterior of the vehicle, the interior is also reduced to the bare essentials. Surfaces penetrating each other in the instrument panel and doors make for an exciting atmosphere and resonate perfectionism. A mixture of high-class authentic materials such as carbon fibre, aluminium and fine-quality leather sets the style here. An aluminium plate carries the engraved signature of Stirling Moss and covers the area around the shift lever.
Innovative technology and polished aerodynamic concept
Developers working on the Stirling Moss were able to fall back on a wealth of experience gathered when producing the SLR Coupé and Roadster, in particular where the technical base was concerned, with its extravagant carbon-fibre design, high-performance suspension and throaty V8 engine. The common denominator uniting the Stirling Moss with the other members of the SLR family is the aerodynamic concept with a closed underbody and a diffuser in the rear bumper for maximum possible downforce at the rear axle – with one difference: the diffuser here is considerably larger than that on the coupé and roadster.
Thanks to the high-precision work carried out in the wind tunnel, the SLR Stirling Moss always generates sufficient downforce for extremely safe handling. But the driver can also manually operate the AIRBRAKE in order to increase the contact pressure further, during particularly sporty driving, for example. The AIRBRAKE is also raised during powerful braking at speeds above 120 km/h, so as to stabilise the vehicle even more in such situations, thus facilitating maximum possible deceleration.
Limited to 75 units – the SLR models’ crowning glory
The new SLR Stirling Moss is the kind of high-calibre speedster coveted by the sporting gentry and enthusiasts alike. At the same time it is a collector’s item which marks the pinnacle of an era and, for the foreseeable future, at least, the final curtain for the SLR. In May 2009 production of the SLR models will cease; only a total of 75 units of the Stirling Moss will be manufactured between June and December 2009, bearing chassis numbers from 1 to 75. Not only does this exclusive vehicle represent the conclusion of the current SLR family; it also serves as a very special thank you to the most loyal of SLR customers, for they are the only ones able to acquire a Stirling Moss.

Stunning automobile. Still can't get over the extensive changes made for this last run.


M

Looks good... not as fluid overall as the original SLR, but pretty cool nonetheless.

Frankly, this looks a lot more of a preview on the gullwing than a review on the SLR.

What a nice bunch of comments to read...

Well done, guys, keep 'em coming. I need just a little bit more trash to start cleaning... Give it to me!

Lets do it. This is just another MB vs BMW thread and mostly its a BMW fan vs MB fan thread right now. Not very respectful to any of our members. The three first pages are good in this thread, the rest are not. In this thread we discuss cars, not members.

Go and do it, Andreas. i'm leaving my office right now and i'm free 'till 12.01.2009.

I don't want this beautiful day of mine to be ruined and therefore i'm leaving.

PS: Anthony, if it wasn't for mod hyper activity, this place would look like junkyard, remember that.

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Hopefully next year will be much better than this was for what concern everything; our private lives, health, business, car industry and of course, the friendly atmosphere at GCZ.

Enjoy yourself, guys and be good to each other.

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to this whole great community, the best one out there.

I'm out, peace!

Have a Merry Christmas and new year Tycoon and we shall talk next year

As for the SLR it's very rather cool, will be absolutely amazing to drive with that compressor v8 producing 650bhp in a striped out light weight SLR

The Artist was right! The aviation skull cap!




Hmmm, aviation skull cap, supercharged engine thats sounds like a Messerschmitt BF-109; I don't feel comfortable with this theme.... Just need a few swastikas here and there...



Let's also not forget...

Damm it does look awesome!

The guy from "Death Race 2000" is driving in the action shot

The Past:


The Present:


This is why I love MB.

Well done MB & Mclaren and farwell to my favorite supercar, the Mercedes SLR McLaren.

All I can say is wow!

This is absolutely stunning work.

I was very critical of Mercedes for trying to milk the SLR, but after seeing this beauty I am sold. This car is a work of art. And that is what it will be for the 75 who shell out the cash for this car. Garage furniture.

They should have spent the money retooling a complete new body for the CLC rather then serving up the abomination they have. Would have been much better for them in terms of profit and respectability at the lower end.

This is pretty much a waste of money to me.

It doesent have to do with one brand vs the other?
Not for you maybe

Ohh and if you read my posts before they where Deleted..
You could see that im not irritated by the fact that ppl dont like it..or its design.. Which seems to be your cause..

I just outright hate ppl who come up with stupid excuses like its not practical..and that it doesent fit in times like these..

Like i said before its a limited run SUPERCAR.. who the heck gives a flying ****?

And your entitled to your opinion no matter what it is..
I wish it was the same for me..but i got mine Deleted..

Ohh well