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Deutsch · 01-06-2006, 09:20 PM

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Mercedes-Benz S-Class Saloon 500 4dr
Test Date 02/01/2006 09:00:00
Price when new £69,770

As good as it gets

The new S500, unquestionably the best car in the class, and arguably the most complete road car in history, is the perfect riposte to the bleak news that has hounded Daimler Chrysler throughout 2005. Forget pension deficits, healthcare burdens and errant CEOs names after small crustacia, this is Mercedes showing us what it does best. Building big saloon cars to a standard that will leave rival manufacturers contemplating whether they shall ever catch-up. They have been trying –and consistently failing- for thirty years now. This new model, priced at £69,770 perpetuates the situation.

With the S500, the horseless carriage is finally reaching the point at which little further silence can be expected within the confines of piston-power and radial round rubber. Mercedes has paid obsessive attention to the noble art of tranquility and the result is a driving experience like no other. Never has a driver felt so remote from the outside world, and yet remained connected to the car to such a helpful degree.

This is not a beautiful car. It lacks the grace of its predecessor, but it has enough presence to justify the badge -the flared arches and quasi-Maybach bottom improve with familiarisation. The cabin is a revolution for Mercedes and should raise a few smirks at BMW because the basic architecture is very 7-Seies.

But before Munich chuckles too loudly, it should closely scrutinise what Benz has achieved with this interior. It has managed to make a complicated environment far more approachable than ever before. There is a rotary control for just about every aspect of the cars entertainment, navigation and heating systems, but there is also a bank of one-touch switches for the most commonly selected functions, plus a separate keypad for the telephone. This is intuitive multi-function control design.

Meets considerable shove. The 5461cc V8 now produces 388bhp at 6000rpm, and with seven forward gears Mercedes has managed to trim the 0-62mph time back to just 5.6sec. Being so silent the performance doesn’t seem that strong, but watch the speedo needle at work and you’ll be both impressed and alarmed at the rate at which the numbers build. Up-shifts are felt with the faintest shimmer, but the gearbox can be slow to respond to a kick-down demand and occasionally thumps an awkward change. You get the distinct feeling that the only reason you can hear the engine is because Mercedes felt that occupants might enjoy some background V8-grumble. This has been judged to perfection.

At 1940kg, it would be reasonable to expect the S500 to flatten the surface beneath it, but sadly it still has to contend with the vagaries of the British highway. Comfort is the primary reason for the existence of the luxury saloon because the class below is now so competent and spacious. Drive an S500 on the optional Airmatic suspension with ABC body control and (inhale) optional dynamic multi-contour front seats with massage function, then jump into an E320 CDi and it will feel, sound and irritate like a ratty Ford Cortina. The S500’s chassis is so well adjusted to its role as the filter between occupant’s bodies and road surface that it makes very competent exec saloons seem harsh. Virtually every aspect sets new standards: body control, medium and high-speed ride, head-toss, overall fatigue. You drive an S500 and you relax. You passenger an S500 and you doze.

Only in low-speed ride is this not the finest car made. So much of the pillowy levitation that characterised the best Jaguar XJ saloons of old was bound up in a fleshy sidewall. The S500’s optional 18in Pirelli P-Zero Rossos have a 45 profile that no manner of air-sphere trickery can compensate for. They do however allow this two-tonne lummox to scamper where it should loaf: no owner will drive their S500 in this way, but between jobs their driver will find great sport annoying 330is. I truly enjoyed flinging this car about, in the main because it has a brilliant traction control system that allows a degree of slip and the most subtle intervention imaginable.

Now is not the time to expand on the technology in the S500: we haven’t the space. Sifting standard gear from options isn’t easy, naturally some of the trickiest toys are costly add-ons. But I have never before driven a car with night-vision (£1,200), and can only say that it is staggering. Nor have I experience of a car stereo half as majestic as the Harmon Kardon unit fitted here (£820), or of a digital telly (£820) with a better picture and more channels then the unit I have in my sitting room. I have used a car with a reversing camera before, but not one that integrates the radar function to outline how best to complete a three-pointer. And Brake Assist Plus (£1840) – a function that practically does all the middle-pedal work for you when the creek gets choppy and one’s paddle is missing- is currently more than I can deal with. Hopefully it is something I won’t need to use during my brief time with this immense expression of what the motor car has become. To look at, let alone purchase any other car in this sector would be lunacy. Talking of which, the outcome of next week’s group test is a closely guarded secret.

Chris Harris

link to article.

Even though I was very disapointed upon second meeting, w/ all the hype, I still want to drive this car.

Merc1 · 01-07-2006, 12:55 AM

I posted this most awesome review in the S-Class picture/info thread.

M

yomomwhat · 01-07-2006, 02:06 PM

"But I have never before driven a car with night-vision (£1,200), and can only say that it is staggering. "

oh yea!!!!!!!!!!! fifth gear are dumb asses, they didnt reply when i kindly pointed out to them they didnt know how to use night vision lol! but now every other review says its great!

georgl · 01-08-2006, 06:17 AM

"Drive an S500 on the optional Airmatic suspension with ABC body control"

OPTIONAL Airmatic WITH ABC... interesting...

Who is working on these magazines? They are stupid all around the world, German, Swiss or US-American - it doesn't seem to matter.
I hope these magazines don't influence potential customers to much - when this happens, the cars become even worse, because the customer wants it this way...

yomomwhat · 01-08-2006, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by georgl

"Drive an S500 on the optional Airmatic suspension with ABC body control"

OPTIONAL Airmatic WITH ABC... interesting...

Who is working on these magazines? They are stupid all around the world, German, Swiss or US-American - it doesn't seem to matter.
I hope these magazines don't influence potential customers to much - when this happens, the cars become even worse, because the customer wants it this way...

ha yea i noticed that.....its like they havent even tested the car or dont know what they were really using....lol, like they just looked on a forum and copied down what some 7 year old was saying lol

jrlcarrera · 01-08-2006, 12:30 PM

Even though I was very disapointed upon second meeting, w/ all the hype, I still want to drive this car.[/QUOTE]

Once again I have to caveat my oppinion since the car I drove was a "stripped down" black on black s550. The car does look great on the road(even in black which I dislike...). Those buttons btw are made of aluminum,my appologies for the previous complaint.
-The interior is huge and the seats are big and comfortable...I will have to wait for a real car with the 16 way adjustable seats to compare it to BMW,I see no reason to believe they won't be as good'
-The BMW and the Merc are vcery simmilar, the Merc is a minimalist approach and the BMW gives you sensory overload...I guess I preffer the BMW.gIVEN THAT THEY ARE BOTH VERY CLASSY AND BEAUTIFULL.
-The ride was dissapointing, enough power but not tight.It reminds me of the old Jaguar ride...or the new Lexus feel , you are on a cloud. Very quiet , fast and responsive but you don't feel the car and the road. In that sense if you preffer sporty then go BMW if you want tyat old BIG car lux ride then this is your car.Maybe the amg models will be better in this sense.

I guess I like the car a lot , it is distinctive looking and special

. Dollar for dollaqr I would probably buy it over a 750...not sure about a 760 vs the MB600. It seems that the MB 600 will price at about $150,000. or higher in which case I would deffinitely get the BMW 760 at about $115,000. FULLY LOADED.
They will have pricing and options available next month and I will be able to make my decission then...I'll be taking European delivery in June so I'm cutting it tight, either way BMW or Merc I dont see how I loose

jrlcarrera · 01-08-2006, 12:34 PM

Even though I was very disapointed upon second meeting, w/ all the hype, I still want to drive this car.[/QUOTE]

Once again I have to caveat my oppinion since the car I drove was a "stripped down" black on black s550. The car does look great on the road(even in black which I dislike...). Those buttons btw are made of aluminum,my appologies for the previous complaint.
-The interior is huge and the seats are big and comfortable...I will have to wait for a real car with the 16 way adjustable seats to compare it to BMW,I see no reason to believe they won't be as good.
-The BMW and the Merc are very simmilar, the Merc is a minimalist approach and the BMW gives you sensory overload...I guess I preffer the BMW.given that THEY ARE BOTH VERY CLASSY AND BEAUTIFULL.
-The ride was dissapointing, enough power but not tight.It reminds me of the old Jaguar ride...or the new Lexus feel , you are on a cloud. Very quiet , fast and responsive but you don't feel the car and the road. In that sense if you prefer a sporty ride then go BMW if you want that old BIG car luxury ride then this is your car.(Maybe the amg models will be better in this sense).

I guess I like the car a lot , it is distinctive looking and special

. Dollar for dollar I would probably buy it over a 750...not sure about a 760 vs the MB600. It seems that the MB 600 will price at about $150,000. or higher in which case I would deffinitely get the BMW 760 at about $115,000. FULLY LOADED.
They will have pricing and options available next month and I will be able to make my decission then...I'll be taking European delivery in June so I'm cutting it tight, either way BMW or Merc I dont see how I loose

Centurion · 01-08-2006, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrlcarrera

Even though I was very disapointed upon second meeting, w/ all the hype, I still want to drive this car.

Once again I have to caveat my oppinion since the car I drove was a "stripped down" black on black s550. The car does look great on the road(even in black which I dislike...). Those buttons btw are made of aluminum,my appologies for the previous complaint.
-The interior is huge and the seats are big and comfortable...I will have to wait for a real car with the 16 way adjustable seats to compare it to BMW,I see no reason to believe they won't be as good'
-The BMW and the Merc are vcery simmilar, the Merc is a minimalist approach and the BMW gives you sensory overload...I guess I preffer the BMW.gIVEN THAT THEY ARE BOTH VERY CLASSY AND BEAUTIFULL.
-The ride was dissapointing, enough power but not tight.It reminds me of the old Jaguar ride...or the new Lexus feel , you are on a cloud. Very quiet , fast and responsive but you don't feel the car and the road. In that sense if you preffer sporty then go BMW if you want tyat old BIG car lux ride then this is your car.Maybe the amg models will be better in this sense.

I guess I like the car a lot , it is distinctive looking and special

. Dollar for dollaqr I would probably buy it over a 750...not sure about a 760 vs the MB600. It seems that the MB 600 will price at about $150,000. or higher in which case I would deffinitely get the BMW 760 at about $115,000. FULLY LOADED.
They will have pricing and options available next month and I will be able to make my decission then...I'll be taking European delivery in June so I'm cutting it tight, either way BMW or Merc I dont see how I loose

[/QUOTE]

I'm not suprised that you felt that the ride was cloudy. The S is an ultimate luxury car and is meant to be as comfortable as possible, hence the cloudy feeling. Although the car might feel too comfortable the suspension can be set to sport if the car is equiped with the ABS suspension system.

The Artist · 01-08-2006, 12:57 PM

lol what did i tell you guys about the buttons they are aluminum.. and it has lumbar.. next time take my word for it

georgl · 01-08-2006, 01:03 PM

The light switch and the comand controller is aluminium, the silver air vents are galvanized (maybe in similar way chrome is attached onto plastic) and the other silver switches are painted silver.

Mr. Mercedes · 01-19-2006, 04:26 PM

Anyone have the Autocar XJ and A8 comparison article?

01-07-2006, 12:55 AM	#2
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01-07-2006, 02:06 PM	#3
yomomwhat Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 292 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: S500 road test by Autocar "But I have never before driven a car with night-vision (£1,200), and can only say that it is staggering. " oh yea!!!!!!!!!!! fifth gear are dumb asses, they didnt reply when i kindly pointed out to them they didnt know how to use night vision lol! but now every other review says its great!

01-08-2006, 06:17 AM	#4
georgl Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: S500 road test by Autocar "Drive an S500 on the optional Airmatic suspension with ABC body control" OPTIONAL Airmatic WITH ABC... interesting... Who is working on these magazines? They are stupid all around the world, German, Swiss or US-American - it doesn't seem to matter. I hope these magazines don't influence potential customers to much - when this happens, the cars become even worse, because the customer wants it this way...

01-08-2006, 12:30 PM	#6
jrlcarrera Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Palm Beach,Fl Posts: 34 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: S500 road test by Autocar-I drove it yesterday Even though I was very disapointed upon second meeting, w/ all the hype, I still want to drive this car.[/QUOTE] Once again I have to caveat my oppinion since the car I drove was a "stripped down" black on black s550. The car does look great on the road(even in black which I dislike...). Those buttons btw are made of aluminum,my appologies for the previous complaint. -The interior is huge and the seats are big and comfortable...I will have to wait for a real car with the 16 way adjustable seats to compare it to BMW,I see no reason to believe they won't be as good' -The BMW and the Merc are vcery simmilar, the Merc is a minimalist approach and the BMW gives you sensory overload...I guess I preffer the BMW.gIVEN THAT THEY ARE BOTH VERY CLASSY AND BEAUTIFULL. -The ride was dissapointing, enough power but not tight.It reminds me of the old Jaguar ride...or the new Lexus feel , you are on a cloud. Very quiet , fast and responsive but you don't feel the car and the road. In that sense if you preffer sporty then go BMW if you want tyat old BIG car lux ride then this is your car.Maybe the amg models will be better in this sense. I guess I like the car a lot , it is distinctive looking and special . Dollar for dollaqr I would probably buy it over a 750...not sure about a 760 vs the MB600. It seems that the MB 600 will price at about $150,000. or higher in which case I would deffinitely get the BMW 760 at about $115,000. FULLY LOADED. They will have pricing and options available next month and I will be able to make my decission then...I'll be taking European delivery in June so I'm cutting it tight, either way BMW or Merc I dont see how I loose

01-08-2006, 12:34 PM	#7
jrlcarrera Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Palm Beach,Fl Posts: 34 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: S500 road test by Autocar-I drove it yesterday Even though I was very disapointed upon second meeting, w/ all the hype, I still want to drive this car.[/QUOTE] Once again I have to caveat my oppinion since the car I drove was a "stripped down" black on black s550. The car does look great on the road(even in black which I dislike...). Those buttons btw are made of aluminum,my appologies for the previous complaint. -The interior is huge and the seats are big and comfortable...I will have to wait for a real car with the 16 way adjustable seats to compare it to BMW,I see no reason to believe they won't be as good. -The BMW and the Merc are very simmilar, the Merc is a minimalist approach and the BMW gives you sensory overload...I guess I preffer the BMW.given that THEY ARE BOTH VERY CLASSY AND BEAUTIFULL. -The ride was dissapointing, enough power but not tight.It reminds me of the old Jaguar ride...or the new Lexus feel , you are on a cloud. Very quiet , fast and responsive but you don't feel the car and the road. In that sense if you prefer a sporty ride then go BMW if you want that old BIG car luxury ride then this is your car.(Maybe the amg models will be better in this sense). I guess I like the car a lot , it is distinctive looking and special . Dollar for dollar I would probably buy it over a 750...not sure about a 760 vs the MB600. It seems that the MB 600 will price at about $150,000. or higher in which case I would deffinitely get the BMW 760 at about $115,000. FULLY LOADED. They will have pricing and options available next month and I will be able to make my decission then...I'll be taking European delivery in June so I'm cutting it tight, either way BMW or Merc I dont see how I loose

01-08-2006, 12:57 PM	#9
The Artist Executive Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sweden Gothenburg Posts: 19,047 Thanks: 607 Thanked 4,308 Times in 2,022 Posts	Re: S500 road test by Autocar-I drove it yesterday lol what did i tell you guys about the buttons they are aluminum.. and it has lumbar.. next time take my word for it __________________ When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return. Leonardo Da Vinci

01-08-2006, 01:03 PM	#10
georgl Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: S500 road test by Autocar The light switch and the comand controller is aluminium, the silver air vents are galvanized (maybe in similar way chrome is attached onto plastic) and the other silver switches are painted silver.

01-19-2006, 04:26 PM	#11
Mr. Mercedes Devotee Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 2,752 Thanks: 697 Thanked 687 Times in 341 Posts	Re: S500 road test by Autocar Anyone have the Autocar XJ and A8 comparison article?

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