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Merc1 · 10-25-2006, 06:08 AM

This is just the car I'd want if I were in the lower sedan market. One thing though, it has to have more than 280hp, the U.S. V6 model already has 280hp. It should have a turbo version of the 3.6L V6 with 400hp.

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Imhotep Evil · 10-25-2006, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Merc1

This is just the car I'd want if I were in the lower sedan market. One thing though, it has to have more than 280hp, the U.S. V6 model already has 280hp. It should have a turbo version of the 3.6L V6 with 400hp.

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Arghhh... there are taxes across Europe on HP, displacement, cylinder numbers, CO2 emissions and so on.

Merc1 · 10-25-2006, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Imhotep Evil

Arghhh... there are taxes across Europe on HP, displacement, cylinder numbers, CO2 emissions and so on.

Doesn't the European Passat V6 have something like 252hp or something from the old 3.2L V6? The R36 would be completely and utterly pointless if the hp increase is going to be 30 or so hp.

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bln123 · 10-31-2006, 08:55 AM

The Passat R32 has got 250hp (everywhere, probably less in the US due to stronger exhaust laws).
The Passat R36 will have 280hp. The 30hp are not a lot, but they are increasing the displacement and power together with the a face lift I would think, so its not like anybody claims the 30hp more to be a great deal.

@turbo version: wasnt there a rumour that a R32 turbo (more likely twin turbo) for the TT is planned?

phaeton · 11-01-2006, 03:06 AM

Original rumors on Passat R36 had 300hp as original output.
I think VW should aim for 300hp

Yannis · 11-01-2006, 04:28 AM

I also think that R36 will have at least 300 hp. The 3.6 lt model in US already had 280 hp so R36 will have more than that.

bln123 · 11-02-2006, 06:57 AM

The VR 3.2l engine always had and always will have 184kW, the equivalent to 250hp! If there was a special edition I might be wrong, but I am 100% certain about the original one.

The new one, I think, will get 300hp in the highest powered version.

btw: sorry for the confusing "R36 will have 280hp" post...just ignore it

Imhotep Evil · 11-02-2006, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by phaeton

Original rumors on Passat R36 had 300hp as original output.
I think VW should aim for 300hp

Well the engine could have officially 280 HP, but in reality more. Just see the 335i tread.

Germans have a habit of undersating some figures due to severl reasons, taxes being one of them.

Yannis · 11-02-2006, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Imhotep Evil

Germans have a habit of undersating some figures due to severl reasons, taxes being one of them.

And the Japanese (mainly Toyota) have the habit of overstating figures. Mainly power and fuel economy ones.

I remember some years ago when a Greek car magazine put head to head Audi A4 (B6) 2.0 lt and Lexus IS200. Audi was supposed to have 130 hp but the dyno showed around 140 and the Lexus was supposed to have 155 hp but the dyno showed around 144. So in theory the two cars had 25 hp difference but in reality the difference was only 4 hp.

PS. No need to say that A4 had won the comparo.

dyna-niet · 11-05-2006, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Just_me

BMW

Yannis I had to

me too

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