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Old 03-08-2007, 04:41 AM   #1
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Profile: Sterling Moss (Mercedes Enthusiast)

A nice little article about this legendary driver. Enjoy.

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Old 03-08-2007, 09:15 AM   #2
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Re: Profile: Sterling Moss (Mercedes Enthusiast)

I saw him in the Mercedes Faithful video...
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Old 03-08-2007, 02:09 PM   #3
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Re: Profile: Sterling Moss (Mercedes Enthusiast)

I don't have time to read this, now, but I'll get to it later, for sure.
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Re: Profile: Sterling Moss (Mercedes Enthusiast)

Sir Stirling Moss was a gentleman and great, perhaps greatest, sport-car/endurance driver of his time but not a Formula 1 WDC.

He could beat, humiliate even, J.M. Fangio in sport cars racing, but couldn't beat him in the F1 championship.
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Re: Profile: Sterling Moss (Mercedes Enthusiast)

Thanks for checking it out guys.

When the name Sterling Moss is mentioned, you instantly think of Mercedes-Benz and the great racing cars of the 1950s and 1960s. The man is a legend and I recall seeing a video of him where he was interviewed, struck me as a real gentlemen. On the track (yet with a competitive spirit) as well as off the track.
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Thanks for checking it out guys.

When the name Sterling Moss is mentioned, you instantly think of Mercedes-Benz and the great racing cars of the 1950s and 1960s. The man is a legend and I recall seeing a video of him where he was interviewed, struck me as a real gentlemen. On the track (yet with a competitive spirit) as well as off the track.

Competitive, yes, unfortunately he always had a complex of inferiority to Fangio while driving in Formula 1.
Another unfortunate aspect is, that even having top cars, he was constantly beaten on points in the WDC, even if he could obtain just as many or even more victories than his oponent(s).
His atitude was win the race rather than the championship(s).
Fangio, Hawthorne and Brabham all understood to get the maximum of points
and that's how they defeated Moss.

Ofcourse on a sport cars, nobody could touch him.
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Competitive, yes, unfortunately he always had a complex of inferiority to Fangio while driving in Formula 1.
Another unfortunate aspect is, that even having top cars, he was constantly beaten on points in the WDC, even if he could obtain just as many or even more victories than his oponent(s).
His atitude was win the race rather than the championship(s).
Fangio, Hawthorne and Brabham all understood to get the maximum of points
and that's how they defeated Moss.

Ofcourse on a sport cars, nobody could touch him.
Kind of sad that Moss never won a championship. I believe he had a nickname that went something like "the greatest racing driver never to win a championship" (something along those lines).

But man, this guy sure drove some awesome cars during his time. I'd love to try a W196! I probably couldn't even drive it properly!
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Re: Profile: Sterling Moss (Mercedes Enthusiast)

Certainly one of the best drivers of all time. Thanks for the awesome article Wimmer.
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Kind of sad that Moss never won a championship. I believe he had a nickname that went something like "the greatest racing driver never to win a championship" (something along those lines).

Yes, after Fangio's departure he was the fastest driver on the field of F1 until his accident in 1962, unfortunatley he wasn't consistent and/or suffered from reliability, when he had top cars, and later didn't have top cars anymore.


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But man, this guy sure drove some awesome cars during his time. I'd love to try a W196! I probably couldn't even drive it properly!

Yes, both in Formula 1 and sport cars competition. The 300 SLR, W196, Maserati 250F, the 1959 mid engined Cooper Climax.
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Certainly one of the best drivers of all time. Thanks for the awesome article Wimmer.
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Yes, after Fangio's departure he was the fastest driver on the field of F1 until his accident in 1962, unfortunatley he wasn't consistent and/or suffered from reliability, when he had top cars, and later didn't have top cars anymore.
I think I also have an article on Fangio. Need to check. I also think I have Karl Kling.


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Yes, both in Formula 1 and sport cars competition. The 300 SLR, W196, Maserati 250F, the 1959 mid engined Cooper Climax.
Those names just make me think of the good old 1950s and 1960s, when the world still seemed ok (despite the threat of Communism! ) with none of this global warming stuff etc.
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I think I also have an article on Fangio. Need to check. I also think I have Karl Kling.

Post them, pleaseee...



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Those names just make me think of the good old 1950s and 1960s, when the world still seemed ok (despite the threat of Communism! ) with none of this global warming stuff etc.

Well the cars and tracks were murder, nuclear treat was in the air, and most of the CO2 and NOx emissions witch contributed to global warming were done then.
And sex was considered safe, racing dangerous.
And drivers were fat and tyres skiny.

And no, you wouldn't be able drive those cars.
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Moss could adapt the best to constantly changing tracks like the Mille Miglia.
Fangio could find the fastest line around a short track and run that line each lap.
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Post them, pleaseee...
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Well the cars and tracks were murder, nuclear treat was in the air, and most of the CO2 and NOx emissions witch contributed to global warming were done then.
And sex was considered safe, racing dangerous.
And drivers were fat and tyres skiny.

And no, you wouldn't be able drive those cars.
LOL

Yep, no AIDS around back then.
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Moss could adapt the best to constantly changing tracks like the Mille Miglia.
Fangio could find the fastest line around a short track and run that line each lap.

On sport car/endurance racing, Moss could beast to the point of humiliation the rest of the field.

Fangio wasn't about the fastest line, IMO, more like the fastest drifter, who could simultaniously be cool, carefull and push to the extreme is necesary.

Nurburgring 1957 was the race that showed his supremacy in F1, much like Mille Miglia showed Moss's supremacy in sport car/endurance racing.
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