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Old 09-02-2009, 08:56 AM   #126
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Old 09-02-2009, 09:02 AM   #127
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We were doing last minute work on the Concept before trucking it to Frankfurt. We had already completed interior work within the confines of the Welt and we doing exteriors.

Regarding M.Michalsky. If you subscribe to our BMW TV.De channel you will find his work very prominent in some of the programmes.
At the IAA The Vision Efficient Dynamics will be located in a special area surround by a track which will have the cars on a to say it accurately a treadmill .

He has designed the outfits for this area which will be worn by the host and hostess'es, in a futuristic white pure clinical Sci-Fi look that will be complimented by the Alpine White "Efficient Dynamics" cars.

@ Geneva next year we will show a Concept advanced diesel Active Hybrid 5er alongside the actual production car , and another concept that will give a preview of our intentions regarding our Mega City Vehicle.
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advanced diesel Active Hybrid 5er...sounds lot more logical than the gasoline V8 hybrid
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We were doing last minute work on the Concept before trucking it to Frankfurt. We had already completed interior work within the confines of the Welt and we doing exteriors.

Regarding M.Michalsky. If you subscribe to our BMW TV.De channel you will find his work very prominent in some of the programmes.
At the IAA The Vision Efficient Dynamics will be located in a special area surround by a track which will have the cars on a to say it accurately a treadmill .

He has designed the outfits for this area which will be worn by the host and hostess'es, in a futuristic white pure clinical Sci-Fi look that will be complimented by the Alpine White "Efficient Dynamics" cars.

@ Geneva next year we will show a Concept advanced diesel Active Hybrid 5er alongside the actual production car , and another concept that will give a preview of our intentions regarding our Mega City Vehicle.
Great! I really look forward to seeing the car there!

So it's confirmed, new 5 to unveil at Geneva?
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So it's confirmed, new 5 to unveil at Geneva?
The big question must be who will get to see it...
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The big question must be who will get to see it...
True. I also heard of a private view at Frankfurt, but I'm sure T or G know more about this.

What I would like to see at IAA are some X1 test drives.
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Regarding the powertrain of future sport cars BMW intends to give a foresight by equipping the "Vision EfficientDynamics" concept car with a three-cylinder turbocharged diesel engine and two electric motors (cf.: Future of Sporty Driving - BMW Presents Concept of Three-Cylinder Plug-In Hybrid). Besides the Plug-in hybrid concept the engineers used a new layering technology for the body design, aiming to improve aerodynamics and to reduce weight. By layering one surface on top of the other smooth seams and joints are created that should reduce the number of components and the weight of the car. According to BMW this technology makes it possible to meet the planed aerodynamic requirements without using additional body elements, through the structure of the surfaces optimised for a better flow of air.

Some details in the design of the body are based on technologies gained in Formula 1. A number of body elements serving as air deflectors and guide vanes. Designed as ducts, for example, the A-pillars destined to serve to channel the flow of air in the same way as the rear lights with their wing profile. The underfloor of the car is fully covered from front to rear and from one side to the other, thus maintaining a smooth surface intended to avoid air swirl liable. Slender openings around the front air dam guide the air flowing into two closed ducts leading inside the front air dam to the wheel arches where the air comes out again through a very slim aperture at high speed, flowing just next to the outer wheel flanks.

The chassis and suspension of the concept car are made of aluminium, and the roof as well as the outer skin on the large doors are made almost completely of a polycarbonate glass automatically darkening as a function of the light shining on the car. The Vision EfficientDynamics comes with tyres and rims of quite unusual size on a sports car aiming to reduce weight and fuel consumption, BMW states. The tyres measure 195/55 in their width-to-height ratio, while 21-inch rims provide a contact surface on the road otherwise offered by a wider tyre.

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Mr. Fisker, a former BMW designer, said he’s not worried. “It is good to see BMW is following a new American car company and not the other way around,” he said in an e-mail message.
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Old 09-03-2009, 08:21 PM   #133
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Old 09-03-2009, 08:47 PM   #134
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Interesting to see Joji Nagashima there alongside Adrian ... It looks he indeed has got some managerial position in design department after all. Being AvH's right hand - kind of an informal BMW Automobile design chief?

Sure he is one of the most prominent, productive & successful BMW designers (penned E36 3er, E36/7 Z3, E39 5er, E90 3er), so I would not be surprised.

Since all the other prominent BMW designers all got managerial positions: AvH (E65 7er, E63/4 6er, Z9 Concept) first being DesignWorks president, then Bmw Automobile design chief, now BMW Group chief of design; Anders Warming (GiINA, Z4, Mille Miglia Concpet) being head of exterior design BMW Automobile; Marc Michael Markefka (E92/3 3er coupe & cabrio, E82/8 1er coupe & cabrio) being chief of exterior design RR; Chris Chapman (E87/1 1er hatch; E53 X5) is chief of automobile deign Designworks.

So only Nagashima is without any prominent position. At least official one. Although I won't be surprised if he is named chief of design BMW Automobile anytime soon. Or perhaps he lacks communicational skills - since today design chiefs & designers are often used for promo / PR stuff as well.
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Old 09-03-2009, 11:35 PM   #135
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Interesting to see Joji Nagashima there alongside Adrian ... It looks he indeed has got some managerial position in design department after all. Being AvH's right hand - kind of an informal BMW Automobile design chief?

Sure he is one of the most prominent, productive & successful BMW designers (penned E36 3er, E36/7 Z3, E39 5er, E90 3er), so I would not be surprised.

Since all the other prominent BMW designers all got managerial positions: AvH (E65 7er, E63/4 6er, Z9 Concept) first being DesignWorks president, then Bmw Automobile design chief, now BMW Group chief of design; Anders Warming (GiINA, Z4, Mille Miglia Concpet) being head of exterior design BMW Automobile; Marc Michael Markefka (E92/3 3er coupe & cabrio, E82/8 1er coupe & cabrio) being chief of exterior design RR; Chris Chapman (E87/1 1er hatch; E53 X5) is chief of automobile deign Designworks.

So only Nagashima is without any prominent position. At least official one. Although I won't be surprised if he is named chief of design BMW Automobile anytime soon. Or perhaps he lacks communicational skills - since today design chiefs & designers are often used for promo / PR stuff as well.
I don't think so Eni. If Joji was to be promoted, it would have happend a long time ago. Out of the current BMW designers, i would say he would be the most distinguished. Maybe he's content being a designer competing in proposals?

Interesting thing for me is that BMW has a new Senior Vice President of Body and Trim- no longer Dr Markus Braunsperger. This is by far one of the most important engineering positions within R&D. The head of Body development usually becomes the future development chief. Current development chief, Dr Klaus Draeger use to run body development, so to former R&D chief Dr Wolfgang Ziebart.
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Old 09-04-2009, 12:22 AM   #136
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I don't think so Eni. If Joji was to be promoted, it would have happend a long time ago. Out of the current BMW designers, i would say he would be the most distinguished. Maybe he's content being a designer competing in proposals?

Yes, I've heard before Joji was given a managerial position several times in the past but declined it every time. So I guess he still works as a design team leader / senior designer, or something similar.


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Interesting thing for me is that BMW has a new Senior Vice President of Body and Trim- no longer Dr Markus Braunsperger. This is by far one of the most important engineering positions within R&D. The head of Body development usually becomes the future development chief. Current development chief, Dr Klaus Draeger use to run body development, so to former R&D chief Dr Wolfgang Ziebart.
I don't know what happened to dr. Braunsperger, but the new head is Dr. Ing. Peter Wolf - an excellent engineer. Before taking this position he was Director of BMW plant in Eisenach (BMW Fahrzeugtechnick GmbH): a BMW facility specialized for R&D + production of automotive body (parts). They also design & produce tooling for other BMW body-parts facilities (eg. pressing plants). So, all BMWs get at least one part for this plant - being developed & produced there. Lately they are focused on cost effective lightweight materials for body parts (aluminum, magnesium, CF, etc) - and they also make some of those parts there: eg CF roof for M3 ... or complete body frame & panels for Vision ED. BMW Oracle sailing boats are also made there. So, Eisenach facility is BMW's leading plant for body developments (tooling, new materials etc) & production.

So, be sure Mr Wolf is a very competent guy - knowing a lot what's going on on the material & tooling levels ... what is possible & what not.

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I have come to the conclusion that the grille on the Vision Efficient Dynamics is the most stunning twin kidney BMW has ever produced. I love that element the most of the whole car!
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I have come to the conclusion that the grille on the Vision Efficient Dynamics is the most stunning twin kidney BMW has ever produced. I love that element the most of the whole car!

You will love the next 6er then.
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You will love the next 6er then.
Blue LED grille illumination NOT included!

But I guess some after-market solutions can be bought via eBay etc. Not sure about the moving flips though - check eBay in a year or two.
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Thank God... that was one of the worst things comming from BMW in a long time.
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Thank God... that was one of the worst things comming from BMW in a long time.

C'mon it's one of those tacky design feature typical for Concept cars ... Eg. X6 ActiveHybrid Concept had that tacky movable exhaust pipe cover, and blue LED illumination of side sills & rear bumper - all to indicate the car can also operate in full-electric mode only.

Such features are a reward to designers: giving them "a toy" - letting them to express the kid inside.

Wouldn't you be excited as well when had a chance to design a BMW Concept car? The real one - not one of those pre-production ones. Sure it feels good when you're allowed to let your fantasy go - and being allowed to use some tacky design feature.
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I agree, they were bound to do some of that Christmas style design features to make the car a true concept. I guess I would have gone aswell...
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I thought it looked pretty cool...






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I thought it looked pretty cool...






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It looks fresh and like a concept should, I love the headlights and the rear lights as well.
The whole profile of the car 'screams' SPORT!
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It looks fresh and like a concept should, I love the headlights and the rear lights as well.
The whole profile of the car 'screams' SPORT!
No body said anything about the headlight and the tail lights. We were just talking about the lights inside the grill that remind most people of Fast and the Furious tuner cars. LOL

Though, I still think in this it looked cool.
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BMW Efficient Dynamics Concept Officially Unveiled at Frankfurt Preview Event














BMW hosted a preview event to the IAA in Frankfurt where its Vision EfficientDynamics hybrid super car concept was officially unveiled. Company chairman and CEO Dr. Norbert Reithofer spoke and said something very interesting regarding his company's preferred future powertrain solution.

"The car needs to evolve through innovation," said Reithofer . "We are the engine more efficient and make the total of vehicle technology more optimally. In addition, Hybrid is also for us a temporary solution. And especially for large metropolitan areas, a car is needed for electric base. We will continue our research work which hydrogen regard."

So it seems that although the Vision EfficientDynamics is extremely advanced in engine and body construction technology, it is not the final solution for the foreseeable, sustainable future.

To recap the 2+2 seater is powered by a 1.5-litre 3-cylinder turbo diesel hybrid with a total system output of 262kW (356 hp) and maximum torque 800Nm (590 lb-ft). It goes to all four wheels via two electric motors located on both the front and rear axles. The 0 - 100km/h sprint time is 4.8 seconds and peak velocity is electronically limited to 250km/h.

The car's acceleration and top speed performance are stunning considering it has an average fuel consumption figure of 3.76 litres/100 km (75.1 mpg imp) and CO2 emissions of 99 g/km.

BMW Vision Efficient Dynamics Concept Officially Unveiled at Frankfurt Preview Event
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sorry but this concept does not move me one bit .. neither the car or the techonology is production ready .. so what make it different than other Japaneese futuristic concepts we saw the last couple of decades ? The fact that it will be produced within 5-7 years ? by then most advanced manufacturers (lead by toyota) would have such solutions ... if being implemented in a sports car that is different, Tesla exists today and by cooperating with Mercedes it will advance even further, not to mention Fisker automotive which made a great progress also ..

so to summ up: I am not impressed, Sorry BMW.
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i beg to differ sayyaf about the technology, if anything, the tech inside this car is more relevant than all the "green" concepts at the IAA. the 3 pots are coming in the next 2 years with the introduction of the new 1er then 3er. the hybrid tech will follown in the next 2-3 years at most (IMO) again with the 2er 3er and then 5er. this thing is greener than all the lexuses mercedes and what have you hybrid jumbo cars, (active hybrid 7 included) and more relevant to you and me than all the above.
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i beg to differ sayyaf about the technology, if anything, the tech inside this car is more relevant than all the "green" concepts at the IAA. the 3 pots are coming in the next 2 years with the introduction of the new 1er then 3er. the hybrid tech will follown in the next 2-3 years at most (IMO) again with the 2er 3er and then 5er. this thing is greener than all the lexuses mercedes and what have you hybrid jumbo cars, (active hybrid 7 included) and more relevant to you and me than all the above.
Time will tell dear. I learned that BMW talk talk talk .. and others are either on par or few months behind .. not that far as CM trying to convince us.

We will wait and see ..
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They should just put body panels on it and sell it. Lovely.
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