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The "new M1" model from BMW or pure speculation from AutoZeitung?

Hopefully there'll be something like that...

Nice chop btw.

A BMW sports car, finally. Hope its true.

M

I hope it's just a dream by Autozeitung.

BMW supercar.
That would be a complete waste of resources.
I hope BMW are not jumping on the bandwagon.
I would rather see them to focus on more important products than a supercar.


Although .... BMW recently protected copyrights for original designs of M1, Isetta, BMW 328 & BMW 507. That - I guess - is a sign they are working on the successors of these cars, and the original designs will be used in marketing campaigns. They did the same with 1er coupe - before starting marketing activities, they had protected copyrights for 2002 design (which was later used in marketing campaign - in US market most noticeably).

So,

M1 ... BMW supercar
507 ... large roadster (Z8)
328 ... small roadster (Z2)
Isetta ... city car by BMW Group

More important products, like goofy hatchback sedans (what the hell is a progressive activity sedan?) and more SUVs? Right?

A BMW sports car isn't going to hurt anything.

M

Since BMW have cancelled M3 V8 CSL then they should at least give us another fast inspiring vechicle.

Who told you that?

I thought tii would take place of M1. Chop is unrealistic.

S.Pimp told us that in another thread. If its just temporary I dont know but it looks like we have to wait for a new CSL.

I know S'Pimp told us that, but i don't believe it.

Yeh, it's hard to believe they have ditched it since so many car mags mentioned BMW officials talking about the upcoming CSL version in their M3 reviews.

I don't care about the word super car. I just want to see BMW develop a car which can match the R8, GTR and GT3 in performance.

I hope BMW does something in that category instead of usless concept,hatshes and multiple SUVs.IMO it's a shame or sad that BMW doesn't have an uber sports car.

I agree. It can only be positive.

Sure, keep on dreaming that Luw.

But just FYI, the M3 DCT already matches the R8.

If BMW is going to make a new supercar, it'll be something like a new McLaren F1, which is precisely 7 leagues above the R8 and GT3

Offering such excessive model during the excessive cost-cutting program would be a bit ironic, and not well appreciated by the investors.


And I highly doubt BMW will offer a mid-engine car.

A super-sporty coupe as a spin-off from new Z8: yes. Mid-engined exotic supercar: no.


I'm sure in a few years BMW will offer a proper 2-seater large coupe - to fight some Ferrari models, SLR, new 928 from Porsche etc. Badged as eg. M9 or M10. But no mid-engined car like R8. That's affordable for Audi - since getting in-house know-how from Porsche. BMW would have to invest a waste amount of resources in such a project.

People arent asking for a mid-car (altough I would love to see it, easy way to improve handling) but they are asking for a sportcar, no matter where the engine is placed.
And now they cancelling M3 CSL, why are bmw giving me headache with their stupid decisions.

BMW has done mid-engine before so they can do it again. They're the only ones still using an I6 and they manage brilliantly. It would have been much cheaper to go the V6 route so its not like hey aren't used to doing things outside the norm. Applying advanced engineering to get things done differently from others is some of what German engineering is all about.

Still though a M9 or M10 would be nice I guess though they all still sound like GTs to me.

BMW must not turn into the German Toyota. Making money is nice, pleasing enthusiasts while making money is much more enviable. If Toyota can invest in a serious new sports car for Lexus, BMW can to.

M

But i thought BMW is doin really well now,and as far as i know the profits are the best ever.I know it's easier for Audi to make such a car coz of Lambo and stuff but BMW is no citroen or renault it's on of the best and as one it should always have high end products carrying the propellar badge.

Is this really true about the M3 CSL being cancelled or is this a rumor people have just decided to believe as true?

M

I dont know 100% for sure but S-pimp usually give is us good BMW info.

arrgh this again.. endless discussions about a bmw supercar..
i dont think they will make one anytime soon..they have other projects..like vans and shit going on..

IMO BMW has to defend its reputation as "the sportiest of the three".
Making money is excellent, selling 3-Series is excellent.

But if everybody has fabulous sportcars and BMW has only SAV and PAS, they slowly will become the weakest of the three. And therefore the less sporty.

Not doing this car, for BMW, is making a great gift to Audi and opening the door, telling them "go ahead and take our place! We think our reputation is not worth defending against you. Now BMW is specialized in sedans and SUVS, take the sporty throne!"

BMW's image has not been created with 320d and X5, it has been created by passion, racing, superb engineering and sporty vehicle.

Now that everybody has an M3 (even if a bit less sporty, people don't see the difference), including Lexus and Cadillac, it is not enough any more to stay on top. You need an R8, a 911, a SLR or whatever.

You need a bit passion!


And BMW needs a flagship that would weight a bit less than 2,5 tons, imo...

I totally agree with you here.. i think BMW is getting behind MB and Audi in this game..

Audi has the R8 and sorry i really dont think the M3 can compete with it... R8 is more as an Image car although its not powerful but it has the features of a super car.. The Look The Design The Engineering etc..


M9 M10 to compete with what? CL65 CL63 ?

We dont want a Bugatti veyron rival from BMW .. a Super Sexy sport mid engine exotic car that is backed with a high performance package would boost their image..And just in limited number 300 or 500 cars wont lead to bankruptcy...


I really like how VW group spent alot on the Bugatti Veyron project just for marketing and re-boost the brand name again in the market.. and the outcome is The fastet sport car in the world...

Yeah, don't need to build a Veyron or a Zonda.

Take the motor of the M5/M6, it is perfect for that, not even need to tune-it up, and put it in an attractive mid-engine car with an impressive, sporty shape, of course give it excellent engineering...but it won't be led to BMW's dead to develop that.

And it will boost their image, at a moment where Audi is getting sportier and sportier while Benz is getting back really fast and rebuilding its image. And of course, Lexus begin to create the F and a mid-engined car, so BMW can't lag behind its competitors on this terrain.

Trouble is, all these PAS and SAV and things need lots of R&D, and of course the next 7er is full testing, and the next 8er is a very important project...BMW can't do too much things and end-up with half-good cars.

The "supercar" should have a place in the calender imo.