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In the last 2 to 3 years the car has aged, time doesn't stand still. Again you're just reaching for something negative here that really doesn't make any sense and/or is no different from any other aging model in a market crowded with newer entries.

M

if you can not even admit that the CLK is the perfect example of a failing startegy and one of the reasons why MB changed it's course, you're a bigger fanboy than I thought. Most MB fans can admit it is one of their weakest cars. And you do know that in those 2-3 years it also had a facelift right?

Why is it such a big failure and how did it change MB's coupé strategy? Last time I checked there was a new CLK coming in accordance with the life cycle.

You know I've come to realize that your posts about Mercedes-Benz are pretty much just hater's posts. No substance, just why Mercedes is always in the doghouse. Now tell me exactly why the CLK is such a failure? The car came out for 2003 and has aged like any other car would have. Sure it hasn't been the brightest star in the Mercedes-Benz stable, but a "failing strategy"? What the hell is that? Now either it is one of their weaker cars due to age or it is a outright failure which is it? You are in no position to call anyone a fanboy when you only dawn the robes to post here for 1 of two reasons, to trash Mercedes or to cheer BMW, anything BMW.

No I didn't know it had a facelift with the different interior, 3-slat grille, re-tuned suspension, new engines...gee slipped right past me.

Now please explain to me what what a "failing strategy" is concerning the CLK? Also, due tell about how Mercedes-Benz changed their "course" and what this has to do with the CLK?

M

1° I didn't say it was the sole reason
2° I never said anyting about coupé strategy

pure fanboy in distress talk.

- never mentionned BMW to glorify it in this topic
- if you know it had a facelift, you know that dropping figures for more than 3 years or so IS NOT normal
- I gave plenty of reasons, you chose to focus on this one, igonoring the other reasons and displaying the perfect fanboy in distress behaviour

The clk is the perfect example of latest generation MB: big, heavy, not sporty enough for it's segment and failing quality. I was at the launch of the CLK cabrio in a Mercedes centre in Belgium. During that 2 hour happening the roof failed and the glovecompartiment broke.

What has mercedes done with the newer generation? Try to make the cars sportier and improve quality. So I'd say the CLK would be a pretty darn good example, wouldn't you?

I didn't say you did, just saying what I've seen here before.


If you knew anything about the coupe market you'd know that they have a limited shelf life in the first place. Again, you act like the CLK is the only coupe that has ever had a sales drop towards the end of its production cycle.

Again, you're making something out of absolutely nothing. With a new Audi A5/S5 and 3-Series coupe on the market what do you expect for the CLK's sales to do? Increase?


You haven't said squat other than that CLK was a failure and that it was a "failing strategy", whatever the heck that meant.


I'm going to assume you mean the last generation MB, not the "latest", if not you're just plain lost. Do we really want to get into what goes on with cars at auto shows and debuts? That debut years ago must really give you some insight as to how the facelifted or all CLKs must be. To think the CLK has one of the highest resales values of any car sold in the U.S. Yeah that pretty much makes it a failure. The CLK is big and heavy? You do realize that the earth doesn't revolve around clipping apexes and track times? The CLK isn't trying to be the sportster in its segment. Big and heavy huh? Compared to what?

Again, nothing more than progress. I'm waiting for the reasons why Mercedes switch course due to the CLK and why the CLK was the car that caused them to do this? Everyone in the known world clearly knows the current S-Class was beginning of any real change at Mercedes-Benz.

Just say you don't like the CLK because nothing you've mentioned here is of any substance to support your claim that the CLK is a failure and/or a "failing strategy". Still waiting on a definition for what a "failing strategy" is.

The CLK is what I said at the beginning, an older Mercedes, in fact along with the E, the oldest of the MB's car lineup. It is very easy to single out the oldest of the bunch and label it a failure in the face of newer competition.

Pure (clueless) hater behavior.

M

well, I've said enough here and you chose to ignore it because you appear to have a star very far up your *** so that's that. I choose to ignore this topic and you for that matter.

LOL -- now come on boys ....play nicely

Nice intelligent post, this from one cheers any and everything BMW. Very rich.

You're so clueless and hell bent on making something out of nothing (a normal product cycle) to the point where you're beyond ridiculous. I've ignored you for ages until you say something particularly stupid as you have here.

M

This is not an example of a "failing strategy" at all. The CLK was always meant to be a cruiser. I don't think any serious person comparing a CLK to a 3-Series Coupe will expect the CLK to better the 3er in the "driving department".

Right now we don't know what the next-generation CLK will be all about. My best guest is that it will be even sportier than the current one, but as usual with a biased towards comfort. Mercedes' might adapt to the sports strategy employed by Audi or BMW in this segment, but they'll equally enforce their traditional values.

And please, Rik, no more "namecalling" or this thread will be locked.

About the CLK's interior quality, I really don't know what you're talking about. It came out at a time when MB interiors were improving. It's not a great interior overall when compared to the recent MB's, but it is not exactly a bad one either. Bottom line is that the material and build quality all appear to be decent.




Ok that was totally uncalled for. Thread locked.