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Re: Daimler-Benz Again?

wow this is gr8 news..
i think MB should take the initiall hit..and sell the damn thing..
sell all of it..and just keep MB.. Maybach .. AMG and Mclaren
get rid of smart also
 
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Great. Divorce on Valentine's day:) . But seriously MB shouldn't engadged in Chrylser from begining.
 
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34 billion to completely seperate, I doubt they have that kind of money...
 
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The Artist said:
wow this is gr8 news..
i think MB should take the initiall hit..and sell the damn thing..
sell all of it..and just keep MB.. Maybach .. AMG and Mclaren
get rid of smart also
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MB can't necessarily just take the initial hit and be done with it. A prudent buyer would want to leave legacy costs (pensions and health care) behind which add something like $2,000 per Chrysler sold (about 2.7 million vehicles last year). If they have to absorb the legacy costs, that would add $6,000 (spread the same cost over 1 million MBs) to each MB. If MB were saddled with that kind of fixed cost, it would kill their competitive position.

Unrelated (in my mind at least) is why GM would consider buying Chrysler? It would potentially cripple them. The additional debt and legacy costs (the UAW would push for GM to take them on and MB would gladly unload them) would make their situation worse not better.
 
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Matt530i said:
MB can't necessarily just take the initial hit and be done with it. A prudent buyer would want to leave legacy costs (pensions and health care) behind which add something like $2,000 per Chrysler sold (about 2.7 million vehicles last year). If they have to absorb the legacy costs, that would add $6,000 (spread the same cost over 1 million MBs) to each MB. If MB were saddled with that kind of fixed cost, it would kill their competitive position.

Unrelated (in my mind at least) is why GM would consider buying Chrysler? It would potentially cripple them. The additional debt and legacy costs (the UAW would push for GM to take them on and MB would gladly unload them) would make their situation worse not better.
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Who knows what GM are thinking. :t-hands: I would have thought Renault-Nissan would have been a more likely candidate to buy Chyrsler.

Regardless of the strategic option they chose, I pray one outcome is achieved either way. That Mercedes does not move to sharing more parts with Chrysler and keeps vehicle development completely independent.
 
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Mr. Mercedes said:
Regardless of the strategic option they chose, I pray one outcome is achieved either way. That Mercedes does not move to sharing more parts with Chrysler and keeps vehicle development completely independent.
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If the divorce doesn't happen quickly and Mercedes and Chrysler move to integrate operations (development, parts sharing) then it will become increasingly difficult to separate the two.
 
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Matt530i said:
If the divorce doesn't happen quickly and Mercedes and Chrysler move to integrate operations (development, parts sharing) then it will become increasingly difficult to separate the two.
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Yes, thats exactly what I don't want to see. I'm very afraid that in making components that fit Chrysler's price points (engines, chassis etc. as indicated by Zetsche last year) Mercedes engineering prowess would once again be compromised. Could an engine that has been developed for both MB and Chrysler possibly be as good as a BMW one given the price point constraints Chrysler would have? :eusa_thin

It's a sad marriage in that Chrysler has everything to gain and Mercedes everything to lose if things go even slightly wrong.
 
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:t-hands: Huh? what do they mean they will sell Chrysler ....it was a merger with Chrysler not an acquisition by Daimler-Benz ......or are they finally telling it like it really is?
 
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Rob said:
:t-hands: Huh? what do they mean they will sell Chrysler ....it was a merger with Chrysler not an acquisition by Daimler-Benz ......or are they finally telling it like it really is?
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LOL c'mon Rob, everyone knows it was a takeover sold as a Merger of equals... but it's Mercedes that ended up getting bitten in the bum :t-rot:
 
GM in talks to buy Chrysler?

DaimlerChrysler is rumored to be talking with General Motors about a possible sale of the Chrysler group, according to the Detroit News. Citing company sources, the article alleged that talks were currently in full swing but are still at an early stage.

The report came the same day that Chrysler announced its massive restructuring and recovery plan that it hopes will turnaround the $1.47 billion loss it suffered last year. The three-year initiative will see a reduction of its workforce and closing its Newark Assembly Plant. The measures will effect up to 13,000 personnel over the next three years.

DaimlerChrysler AG has also been reported as stating it was open to all options for the Chrysler group, however, executives are remaining tight-lipped about the talks with GM. The Detroit News is reporting that the Chrysler group has hired investment bank JPMorgan Chase & Co., so a possible merger could be on the table.
 
Re: GM in talks to buy Chrysler?

please do..and go to hell both of you..:D
 
Re: GM in talks to buy Chrysler?

Can anyone explain to me why would GM even think of buying Chrysler? I just don't think it will ever work out, in what ways will this benefit GM and Chrysler?
 
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More important question: who is willing to buy troubled Chrysler? :cwm1:

What is a good price for a troubled car maker? Will it be sold for a few bucks only (like BMW did with Rover)?

Some who have good insights in automotive industry say DCX is in a big crisis. MB part of a company have no intention to finance troubled Chrysler again - like they did in the past, and sacrificed their own needs (eg. also resulting in quality drop in MB cars).


My solution:
Perhaps Chrysler should sell MB branch, and finance its own reconstruction. :usa7uh: Then merge Chrysler, GM & Ford (when PAG is sold). :D
So there will be only one troubled American car maker instead 3 of them. :happy001:
 
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The first solution (Chrysler selling MB) is a good idea, to raise funds for their reconstruction Eni. :t-cheers:
 
If they sell Chrysler that could mean problems for MB in the NA market just like the boycots etc. in UK when BMW sold Rover only in much bigger scale. :eusa_thin
 
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EnI said:
More important question: who is willing to buy troubled Chrysler? :cwm1:

What is a good price for a troubled car maker? Will it be sold for a few bucks only (like BMW did with Rover)?

Some who have good insights in automotive industry say DCX is in a big crisis. MB part of a company have no intention to finance troubled Chrysler again - like they did in the past, and sacrificed their own needs (eg. also resulting in quality drop in MB cars).


My solution:
Perhaps Chrysler should sell MB branch, and finance its own reconstruction. :usa7uh: Then merge Chrysler, GM & Ford (when PAG is sold). :D
So there will be only one troubled American car maker instead 3 of them. :happy001:
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LMAO :t-rot:

Problem is Chyrsler can't sell what they don't own.

Who knows what GM is thinking? But they seem desperate to do somthing drastic, no matter how stupid it may seem.
 

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