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Old 03-30-2006, 08:53 AM   #1
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BMW fans wont be happy - M6 vs SL55

The facelifted SL55 with the new engine (517p) has beaten one of best BMW handing cars in a germancarmag.

Auto Zeitung sees the advantage of the M6 in the lower acquisition costs (24.500,-- € ceaper), the larger trunk, the 195 kg higher load capacity, and the existing back seats but SL55 offer better comfort and better brakes. SL55 is faster around their test track (1.5 sec faster than the M6). The M6 suffers from understeering and power-oversteering.

0-100 km/h M6=4,5s : SL55=4,5s
0-200 km/h M6=13,2 s : SL55=13,0s

I always knew the Sl55 was a great handling car but Im shocked and happy for MB fans that the facelifted SL55 did so well. Now I hope Sportauto test the car one day around their tracks.
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Re: BMW fans wont be happy - M6 vs SL55

WHAT?? i cant belive this.. i can not belive that its faster around the track..
amazing.. happy days....lol
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Old 03-30-2006, 08:55 AM   #3
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Re: BMW fans wont be happy - M6 vs SL55

I am amazed by that result!

I'll give the typical fanboy reply, wait until the M6 CSL comes.
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Old 03-30-2006, 08:56 AM   #4
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Re: BMW fans wont be happy - M6 vs SL55

with the new engine SL55 and M6 are similar in acceleration
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Re: BMW fans wont be happy - M6 vs SL55

cool.. just an OT question..ive seen many dyno test of M engine especially the M6/5 engine.. i dont think its 507hp.. its more like 512.-517 what do you guys think.. i belive BMW underestimated the engine
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Old 03-30-2006, 09:01 AM   #6
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Re: BMW fans wont be happy - M6 vs SL55

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cool.. just an OT question..ive seen many dyno test of M engine especially the M6/5 engine.. i dont think its 507hp.. its more like 512.-517 what do you guys think.. i belive BMW underestimated the engine
I think most brands does this.
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Re: BMW fans wont be happy - M6 vs SL55

What I suprise, I have all ways seen the SL55 as a cruise car. Kudos to MB for improvign the SL.
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Re: BMW fans wont be happy - M6 vs SL55

yeah sure they do.. i agree.. but its more powerfull than 507 no doubt abt that..

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Re: BMW fans wont be happy - M6 vs SL55

I've heard that most brands overestimate their figures, but that Porsche on the other hand are known to really underestimate.

I am really happy about this result as well, but that bit about the M6 being more fun to drive worries me. Driving pleasure is the most important thing in a car imo. But I'm pretty sure a propper gearbox would take car of that in the SL. I still prefer the SL over the M6 though
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Re: BMW fans wont be happy - M6 vs SL55

autozeitung is SHIT.
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Re: BMW fans wont be happy - M6 vs SL55

I know this shows my lack of knowledge, but was that an M6 Cabrio...or is there even an M6 Cabrio out yet?

Yea the SL55 could definitely benefit from a Nice Manual and some lighter weight, its still a pig car to drive compared to any M car...
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Re: BMW fans wont be happy - M6 vs SL55

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that's a great new!! I was hoping for a big improvement like that!

one of the greatest loooking car in the world is now a great handler!

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Re: BMW fans wont be happy - M6 vs SL55

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yeah sure they do.. i agree.. but its more powerfull than 507 no doubt abt that..

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Nothing thats says that MB dont do such things Anyway over at m5board.com people have dynoed their car, some of them stronger than expected but some of them weaker than expected so the horses obviously change from car to car.
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Re: BMW fans wont be happy - M6 vs SL55

Rember this is one test and I dont think M6 and SL55 will be compared very often, the fight will be between CLS63 and M6 now BMW need to bring us a Roadster (ala Z8) to compete with the SL. The Roadster Enilab posted.
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yeah man im sure mb does it..i didnt mean it like a bad thing.. i was just saying..that it might have more power..

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After this im very optimistic..that the CLS63 might be able to smoke the M6 around the track
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yeah man im sure mb does it..i didnt mean it like a bad thing.. i was just saying..that it might have more power..

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After this im very optimistic..that the CLS63 might be able to smoke the M6 around the track

Lets wait and see what sportauto says
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Very impressive.... Not surprised, but the ABCII is some piece of work. Kudo's MB.
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I have to ask, didnt you boys expect the SL55 to accelerate faster than 13 sec to 200km/h?
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yeah it is supposed to be on th new S65 to.. plus the S class allready is reported to be a good handler.. cant wait see tests of that beast

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The facelifted SL55 with the new engine (517p) has beaten one of best BMW handing cars in a germancarmag.

Auto Zeitung sees the advantage of the M6 in the lower acquisition costs (24.500,-- € ceaper), the larger trunk, the 195 kg higher load capacity, and the existing back seats but SL55 offer better comfort and better brakes. SL55 is faster around their test track (1.5 sec faster than the M6). The M6 suffers from understeering and power-oversteering.

0-100 km/h M6=4,5s : SL55=4,5s
0-200 km/h M6=13,2 s : SL55=13,0s

I always knew the Sl55 was a great handling car but Im shocked and happy for MB fans that the facelifted SL55 did so well. Now I hope Sportauto test the car one day around their tracks.


W0W! that is amazing news! We MB fans should praise the gods of the automotive race for gifting the SL55 with new track talants!!. I told you guys when MB does a face-lift thay do more than just add a new engine when that time comes along. The new SL has recieved a new faster steering rack, faster reacting brakes and an enhanced ABCII suspension! the new formula has worked against the enemy
dispite the SL`s weight. 1.5 seconds faster! thats really impressive!!

OT: I hope this formula works for the face-lifted E-Class as well as the new E63 and the other 63 models!!
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Re: BMW fans wont be happy - M6 vs SL55

the problem is that the E and CLs class don't have ABC suspension system...

but we can dream without too
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doesent the AMG versions have ABC??
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Re: BMW fans wont be happy - M6 vs SL55

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I've heard that most brands overestimate their figures, but that Porsche on the other hand are known to really underestimate.

I am really happy about this result as well, but that bit about the M6 being more fun to drive worries me. Driving pleasure is the most important thing in a car imo. But I'm pretty sure a propper gearbox would take car of that in the SL. I still prefer the SL over the M6 though
The best thing about this result is the psychological effect. I hope it will help alleviate the somewhat negative trend with MB's image that had been developing for various reasons. Of course one positive thing won't turn around a persistent trend but at least it's a step to the right direction.
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Old 03-30-2006, 02:51 PM   #24
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Re: BMW fans wont be happy - M6 vs SL55

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doesent the AMG versions have ABC??


No, thay sure don`t. However the CLS55 has an improved version of Airmatic.
The CLS55 has much better body control than it`s brother the E55.

ABC is very effective but is also heavier and more expensive than Airmatic.

When the E63 comes along expect much better performance with a faster
reacting (AirmaticII) suspension and quicker steering bits with better brakes!
The CLS63 will be just as stunning.

AMG is now officially on the Performance Roll!
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Re: BMW fans wont be happy - M6 vs SL55

yeah man i noticed..i was just confused..
anyways like you say performance roll.. lets wait and see for the rest of the new AMG´s
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