You know this thread was coming - LF-A vs GTR

[Just_me]

We have now two monsters from Japan. If money isnt stopping you which one do you prefer?

[martinbo]

The LFA is the more special car - without question. However, a person in my middle-class situation isn't really in a position to objectively vote for the LFA - it is very expensive. I could have 4 GTRs for that amount of money - one of them a SpecV for trackwork...

I'd prefer to drive the much more special LFA, but the GTR is still too good, in so many respects, to pass over.

[Tarek]

I just love the GT-R and i respect it so much but i just couldn't pass on the new Lexus..it's too special and magnificent.

[Merc1]

Lexus, Lexus, Lexus, Lexus.........no contest.

M

[HighestOfHigh]

The GT-R is an amazing car. For only $70k plus this little monster can hang with Porsche, Ferrari and Lambo at a fraction of the price. What's even more amazing is that it's a 6 cylinder putting out V8 performance. It really is a little wonder and no one can doubt it's performance and extraordinary engineering ability.

The Lexus LFA is $375k, which is more then sportscars like the 458, McLaren, SLS and even a few of Lambo's cars. The front of the LFA looks cheap IMO for the price tag. It has that over dress look without the Elegance of Ferrari and the Brutality of Lamborghini.

For some reason it's appearence reminds me of ...



The interior even though it has a few goodies seems as though it's a bad aftermarket job along with the horrible and unprofessional steering wheel. The only thing it really has going for it is the Engine sound. If they put a Toyota badge on it, it would have made much better sense because that is what it looks like.


For $375k I might as well buy the GT-R and SLS (Assuming that it will be $250k when it comes out).

My Choice: Nissan GT-R




The little V6 that could!

[Monster]

Everyone is knocking the front end styling of the LFA, Lexus changed it for aerodynamic reasons so the car can reach 200 mph.


Right now, I am leaning towards the GTR, but I will have to read some reviews and comparisons before making my final decision.

[MikeJ]

Out of these two, I'd have the hideously expensive new Supra.

[The Artist]

GTR beacuse the Lexus is to expensive

[ateekt]

I'd say exactly same, as I did a couple of days ago on the Lp-670-Sv vs Gt-R thread! If money is not a worry, sure the Lf-A!

[///K]

It fully says "If money isnt stopping you which one do you prefer?"

The LF-A.

[CarGuy]

GT-R because in my view it looks just as exotic as the LF-A, the same Japanese look and place of origin. Also the difference of 300k between them meaning you can buy 4 more GT-R's for that, not including the one you already have.

[batosai]

This kind of thread is childish and worthless in any perspective.

If money is no object one will always get the most expensive one and if they don't like it they can always sell it and get the other and keep the change.

In this case even if I prefer the GT-R I would choose the LF-A, sell it and get a house with a GT-R in the garage.

[CarGuy]

^ So really your vote should be and count as a GT-R.

[Just_me]

Originally Posted by batosai

This kind of thread is childish and worthless in any perspective.

If money is no object one will always get the most expensive one and if they don't like it they can always sell it and get the other and keep the change.

Then they missed the point with the thread. Vote with your heart and choose the car you would like to be driving and playing around with. If you choose because one of them are cheaper or expensive you missed the point with the thread.

My vote has nothing to do with price. I voted for LF-A because of design / 9000 rpm redline and engine sound, imo one of the best engine sounds ever produced, up there with Carrera GT. I surely cant be the only carenthusiast on this board who votes with my heart and sees beyond money.

[hoffmeister_fan]

LFA is a pure RWD monster. That V10 is glorious and the interior is special, especially those pedals. I love it. It's TMC's middle finger to those who said they can't make something like this.

Realistically, well as realistic in the realm of this hypotetical situation, the GTR is powerful enough, practical with its go-anywhere AWD, and just priced absurdly right for what you get. It's Nissan's, and in a way, Japan's middle finger to the established marques.

And, honestly, we all love a big F and U, don't we? Something to keep the others pushing the limit of what's sane and what's not.

[Guibo]

I'm leaning towards the LFA. It looks like a much more special car and it is a much more special car in its construction. I prefer the long front, short rear deck proportion of a true 2-seater front-engined sports car, but have to admit the GT-R's rear seats are a huge bonus. Though it's not really a part of this discussion, the price of the LFA can be rationalized.
Will be quite interesting to read a head-to-head comparo. Many of the initial drive impressions so far are contradictory in regards to the steering feel and brakes; some think the LFA delivers strongly in these areas, while others, driving what should be identically prepared cars on the very same roads and track, think it feels distant.
All pretty much agree that the engine is a masterpiece, with amazing revvability; but they almost all agree that the single-clutch transmission that helps make this possible takes a back seat to modern DCT's. This, for me, is another area where the LFA can't quite make the knock-out blow to the GT-R. From what I can tell, the LFA should be the better track car (and will probably last longer under sustained lapping), the GT-R the more competent road car.

[Sunny]

Like Martin so eloquently put it in the GTR vs SV thread, given 80 grand, I would definitely get the GTR, given $350,000, I doubt it is the LFA, I will be spending it on.

The Lexus is indeed more special, but I would have preferred it if it cost around 100 or even 120 grand, wore a Toyota logo and wore a more than 500 would exist, even if it meant no CF body and it ended weighing 200lbs more.

[Steve]

Ive earned a few quid in my time and the more i make the more i value the money i have. I would not throw it away.

i want bargains now, and have the buying power to barter my price.

The LFA is a joke in the UK its £336K.

The GTR is a better allround car IMO so id buy the GTR.

However if i was desperate to spend £336k then id spend it like this:

1. 997 GT3 RS gen2
2. 458 Italia
3. 2nd Hand quattroporte

Im sorry if i didnt do as you requested but LEXUS have gone utterly mad. I understand the V10 engine is racecar derived etc etc but

[Giannis]

My vote goes straight to the GT-R, not only because it's so much car, for so little money, but because it's an engineering masterpiece.

The 9.000rpm redline is not enough to make me choose the LF-A. The GT-R is an fantastic sportscar from almost every point of view!

[Centurion]

Too bad there's no option for "neither". Honestly I don't find any of them to be physically appealing in anyway, the styling is a bit over-the-top, too masculine and a bit grotesque. There are so many other cars I would have over both the GT-R and the LF-A. Like the 997CS over the GT-R and a bunch of others over the insanely expensive Lexus.

[lambornima]

I hate it when people bring money into the discussion. the LF-A is too expensive? so I take it you can afford a GTR? if both are too expensive, then please for the love of god stop using their price tags as arguments for or against them. both cars are FAR too expensive for the average person.

which one do I like more? the LFA. it looks better, it sounds better and its gonna be faster (though not by much im guessing). it is also very rare.

[Centurion]

Originally Posted by lambornima

I hate it when people bring money into the discussion. the LF-A is too expensive? so I take it you can afford a GTR? if both are too expensive, then please for the love of god stop using their price tags as arguments for or against them.

Who said anything about money, we're talking about value -- not the same thing. The Lexus is getting beaten down on price because it is close to twice as expensive as the R8 V10 or four times the price of a GT-R.

[lambornima]

Originally Posted by Centurion

Who said anything about money, we're talking about value -- not the same thing. The Lexus is getting beaten down on price because it is close to twice as expensive as the R8 V10 or four times the price of a GT-R.

okay lets talk value. there will be only 100 more LF-As than there are Enzos. How many R8s have been produced? how many GTRs? heck, how many Carrera GTs? SLRs? LP640s?

as for my money comment, its not applying just to this thread, but to anyone who says "ill take car X over car Y because car Y costs too much". just say the following and stop lying to everyone: "ill take car X over car Y because I like it more"

stop trying to put quantitative reasoning on a qualitative judgment call. if all the car prices were the same, do you actually think the Z06 or GTR fans would say "ya now I would take the LP640 or 458 over it"? no! they'll then pick another quantitative reason (ie an Nring time) to justify their preference. they're feel the need to do this because they are forced to. afterall, who would take a Chevy over a Ferrari?

Its sad really. people can no longer just prefer something because its what they like more. if they do, they're considered "fanboys" or whatnot. everyone thinks their choices have to be objective. the GTR and Z06 fans talk about money because if they dont than they think people will think they're dumb, since there isnt an objective reason for their preference. the Z06 fans have a soft spot for Vettes, the GTR fans love the fact that their favourite car bitch slapped Porsche. Forget quantitative reasoning. It shouldnt apply to cars and supercars. If we were to think about supercars with our heads rather than our hearts, and consider only the objective, we wouldnt even have supercars because they are completely useless!

Alas, these cars are about soul and passion, not what makes sense. They are about what car enthusiasts love, and not about whats more logical to perfer.

If you like the GTR more, just say you like it more. There is nothing wrong with the fact that you would prefer to walk into your garage and see a GTR there then a LF-A.

[siko]

GT-R Power!

[Laurent T]

If money is no question, then GT-R Spec-V would get my vote. Anyway, doesn't like design on the rear of the LFA.