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Alpina B5 S 0 0%
BMW M5 25 31.25%
Audi RS6 Sedan 13 16.25%
Mercedes Benz E63 AMG 34 42.50%
Cadillac CTS-V 4 5.00%
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Old 04-16-2009, 10:12 PM   #1
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Lamborghini, Ferrari & Porsche. Who cares when you have these!


Wheels Available forged 19-inch AMG light-alloy wheels
Tires Front 255/35 R 19
Tires Rear 285/30 R 19
Suspension AMG RIDE CONTROL sports suspension with steel-spring front struts, rear air AMG air suspension
Drivetrain
Layout Front Engine, RWD
Transmission AMG SPEEDSHIFT MCT 7-speed sports transmission
Differential Electronic locking LSD with ESP selectable suspension characteristics
Engine
Type: Handbuilt AMG V8 introduced on SL63 AMG Roadster
Displacement 6.2 liters
Induction Naturally aspirated
Horsepower 525 bhp
Torque 465 lb-ft. (630 Nm)
Performance
Acceleration (0-100 km/h) 4.4 seconds (est)
Quarter Mile: 12.6 sec @ 115 mph (est)
Top Speed 155 mph (250 km/h) (electronically limited)
Base Price: $80,000

Layout Front Engine, Quattro AWD
Transmission Paddle-Shifted 6 Speed Tiptronic
Front Brakes Eight Piston Ceramic Calipers, 420 mm Disk
Rear Brakes Six Piston Ceramic Calipers, 365 mm Disk
Engine
Engine Type Direct Injection Twin Turbo V10
Displacement 4,991 cc
Horsepower 580 hp @ 6250 rpm
Torque 479.42 lb-ft. @ 1500 rpm
Exterior
Wheels 9.5J x 20-inch
Performance
0-100 km/h (0-62 mph) 4.1 seconds
Quarter Mile: 12.2 sec @ 118 mph
Top Speed 174 mph (279 km/h)
Base Price: $138,853 (price in Germany converted to USD, since Audi RS6 Sedan, price is not available for North American Market, if were even getting the sedan version at all)

Brakes F/R: ABS, vented disc/vented disc
Tires F-R: 255/40 ZR19 - 285/35 ZR19
Driveline: Rear Wheel Drive
Engine
Type: V10
Displacement cu in (cc): 301 (4941)
Power bhp (kW) at RPM: 500(373) / 7750
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: 383(520) / 6100
Redline at RPM: 8250
Exterior
Length × Width × Height in: 191.1 × 72.7 × 75.8
Weight lb (kg): 4012 (1821)
Performance
0-100 km/h (0-62 mph) 4.7 seconds
Quarter Mile: 12.8 sec @ 115 mph
Top Speed mph (km/h): 155 (250 km/h) (electronically limited)
Base Price: $82,500

Brakes F/R: ABS, vented disc/vented disc
Tires F-R: 255/40 R19 - 285/35 R19
Driveline: Rear Wheel Drive
Engine
Type: Supercharged V8
Displacement cu in (cc): 376 (6162)
Power bhp (kW) at RPM: 550(410) / 6200
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: 550(745) / 6200
Redline at RPM: n.a.
Exterior
Length × Width × Height in: 191.6 × 72.5 × 58
Weight lb (kg): 4200 (1905)
Performance
0-100 km/h (0-62 mph) 4.3 seconds
Quarter Mile: 12.4 sec @ 115 mph
Top Speed mph (km/h): 191 mph (307 km/h)
Base Price: $58,575

Wheels 20-inch Nevis Alloy
Suspension Computer Dynamic Adjusting Suspension
Drivetrain
Layout Front Engine, RWD
Transmission Automatic w/ Manual Shift
Differential Active Rear Differential
Engine & Transmission
Displacement cu in (cc): 5.0 liters
Power bhp (kW) at RPM: 510 bhp
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: 461 lb-ft. (625 Nm)
Type: AJ-V8 Gen III Supercharged
Performance
0-100 km/h (0-62 mph) 4.6 seconds (est)
Quarter Mile: 12.7 sec @ 115 mph (est)
Top Speed 155 mph (250 km/h) (electronically limited)
Base Price: $70,000

engine V8
position Front Longitudinal
aspiration Nautilus-type Supercharger w/Air to Ait Intercooler
valvetrain 4 Valves per Cyl /Valvetrronic Variable Timing
displacement 4398 cc / 268.4 cu in
bore 92 mm / 3.62 in
stroke 82.7 mm / 3.26 in
power 395.5 kw / 530 bhp @ 5500 rpm
specific output 120.51 bhp per litre
torque 725 nm / 534.7 ft lbs @ 4250 rpm
driven wheels RWD
front tires 245/40 ZR 19 Michelin Pilot Sport 2
rear tires 275/35 ZR 19 Michelin Pilot Sport 2
front brakes Discs w/Teve Twin-Piston Calipers
f brake size 374 mm / 14.7 in
rear brakes Discs w/Teve Twin-Piston Calipers
r brake size 370 mm / 14.6 in
transmission ZF 6-Speed Auto w/Switch-Tronic Control
0-100 km/h (0-62 mph) 4.7 seconds
Quarter Mile: 12.5 sec @ 117 mph
Top Speed: 200 mph (322 km/h)
Base Price: $125,651 (price in Germany converted to USD, since Alpina is not available for North American Market)
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M5 what else
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I agree as old as it is, it still most likely has the best driving dynamics and you can get it with a proper 6 Speed manual.

I drove one and got wheel spin in 3rd gear.
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ANd it has the best engine by a mile.
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The orgasm is still playing in my ears. Also I maxing it out on this local highway in my town was also fun and efortless.

For all those of you that care about public safety, this highway had a maximum of 80 km/h, I got it to 260 km/h, it was around 1 am not a single car in sight and it was summer, been driving for over 5 years, over 100,000 km of experience, no speeding tickets or accidents
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I can't wait until someone puts all of these together in a massive comparo test.

For me it is the E63, XF-R, RS6, CTS-V and then M5 in that order. We don't get the RS6 here in the U.S. so the real order would be E63, XFR, CTS-V and M5.


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Went with the M5, been one of my favs for awhile.
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It's amazing how well the M5 holds it's fanboy status after so many years now, almost 4 years.
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Now it'S going to be difficult!! But first of all, thanks for creating this poll (including Alpina and Jag)!!

But DAMN, no I have to decide between these two…B5 S or XFR…

…absolutely love both!!

But in the end I decided to go for the new Jag XFR!! Is much more modern, looks fabulous and the sound of the V8 is stunning! Also love the interior…right followed by Alpina B5 S (Audi RS6, BMW M5, Cadillac and AMG)! Yep, I would rather like to get a Cadillac then the new W212!
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E63 for me,in terms of looks it's in a league of it's own
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^ Pwned!

E63 for me I'm obsessed with is, such a elegant, beautiful and sleek car
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RS6. None of the others can hit 200 km/h faster than the Audi (13,2 s).
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Does the M5 ever age or look dated?
With the E39 it's been 11 years now.
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The E39 is definitely one of the best looking BMWs ever build!! Just look at it - looks still fresh and modern…but also extremely elegant etc!! And the interior is just stunning, with that middle console…
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All the other can compete with eachother, but the M5 is in a league of it's own.

Caddy and Jag??? PLEASE give me a Porsche of Ferrari instead. The Caddy is a joke, and the Jag really is too.
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The Caddy is a joke, and the Jag really is too.

We still don`t know what the Jag is capable of but the Cadillac CTS-V still holds the record and is believed to be the fastest Nurburg 4-door runner @ 7:59.32. The current M5 is no longer in a league of it`s own, that is until the next one comes out.
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We still don`t know what the Jag is capable of but the Cadillac CTS-V still holds the record and is believed to be the fastest Nurburg 4-door runner @ 7:59.32. The current M5 is no longer in a league of it`s own, that is until the next one comes out.
It still is, it has never been about performance but about unrivaled driving pleasure.
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Don't u just love the E39 M5
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Old 04-18-2009, 01:01 PM   #22
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Don't u just love the E39 M5
Didn't you vote for the E63?
Last minute confessions you wanna make for your sins?
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Didn't you vote for the E63?
Last minute confessions you wanna make for your sins?
Didn't know that voting for a car stops ur appreciation for another!
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Usually on more immature sites, in polls you vote for one, defend the choice you made, and find best ways to bash the others.
The environment is much more mature, controlled and friendly here.
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The E60 is being replaced next year, but it seems BMWs are like wine - the get better with time My God that M5 looks hot, and the Alpina is just marvelous

As I said, gets better with time, so the E39 is just heaven on earth


M5 - there is no substitude
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