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Which One?




Mercedes-Benz McLaren SLR 722 GT
Front-engine, 90 Degree AMG V8 with Dry Sump - 5439cc
Power: 671 bhp @ 6500 rpm
Torque: 830 Nm (612 lb-ft)
Weight: 1390 kg - 3065 lbs
5-Speed Auto with Speedshift System
Rear wheel drive
Wheels: 18-Inch Light-Alloy Center Lock
Power-to-weight ratio: 483bhp/ton
0-62mph: 3.3sec
Top speed: 196mph - 315km/h
Basic price: £775,000
21 built



Ferrari FXX
Mid-engine, V12 aluminum - 6262cc
Power: 860 bhp @ 8500 rpm
Torque: 690 Nm (509 lb-ft)
Weight: 1155 kg - 2546 lbs
Six-speed automated sequential
Rear wheel drive
Wheels: 19in front, 19in rear
Power-to-weight ratio: 692bhp/ton
0-62mph: 2.8sec
Top speed: 217mph - 349km/h
Basic price: £1,250,000
29 built



Pagani Zonda R
Mid-engine, V12 AMG - 5987cc
Power: 739bhp @ 7500rpm
Torque: 710 Nm (524 lb-ft)
Weight: 1070kg - 2358lbs
Six-speed automated sequential
Rear wheel drive
Wheels: 19in front, 20in rear
Power-to-weight ratio: 702bhp/ton
0-62mph: 3.0sec (claimed)
Top Speed: 233mph (claimed) - 374km/h
Basic price: £1,423,000
15 to be built + 1 for the company



Maserati MC12 Corsa
Rear mid-engine, V12 - 5998cc
Power: 755 bhp @ 8000rpm
Torque: 710 Nm (524lb-ft)
Weight: 1150kg - 2535lbs
Six speed automated sequential
Rear wheel drive
Wheels: 19in front, 20in rear
Power-to-weight ratio: 656bhp/ton
0-62mph: 3.0 sec
Top speed: 202mph - 326km/h
Basic price: £895,000
12 built

Easy choice

Ah... now this is a fine match-up.

Imagine you're bonkers wealthy and you're looking for a bit track-capable excess to supplement the on-road thrills you're getting with your Veyron. Tough choice but I'd do my utmost to get onto Horacio's order book! That Zonda R is just extraordinary in every sense of the word and in every element of its exquisite detail. Just the instrument panel and steering wheel instrumentation alone is like something out of pure fantasy.

Zonda R. It's too special.

I might be skewing the votes, by the way that I worded the thread, it's all psychological

I guess I am the only one who thinks the SLR actually looks the most bonkers even more than the Zonda. The Ferrari is probably faster, but it looks like a clown. But you have to respect the Maser most for being the only real 'race car' here, one that actually is build to rules and races against competition not just among each other.

BTW the figures for Ferrari is wrong, it makes 860HP not 790HP.

I hope someone from the factory reads this forum

I picked Zonda, but I think it looks kind of unfinished/awkward.

Zonda all the way!!

This car, the Zonda R, is just incredible!! Love every bit of it, it's amazing...

Second would be the FXX, then the Maser.

The SLR is not at his place with such incredible machines imo. Clearly sub-par here, in every aspect.

The Pagani is one of the most exciting car ever released. For me, the only cars that can keep up with it are the McLaren F1 (#2 in my supercar book) and the Porsche Carrera GT (#1 in my supercar book). The Zonda comes in # 3.

The rest is very, very far away from these 3.

^Change the places of CGT and McLaren and i agree!

The easiest poll ever at Gcz, the Zonda gets my vote among many other! She is like no other!

Zondaaa

I'd take the 722. I know its the slowest car in this lineup but the engine sound of this car is just so insane. Sounds more like a Spitfire than like a race car

What do you mean by that?
My guess would be satisfaction with Zonda's epic domination!

Well, this is darned confusing for me. I'm an over-the-top-if-I-could-only-have-one Zonda fan. Horatio is a genius and his cars reflect a level of talent and craftsmanship unlike any other.
OTOH, this one, or perhaps because it's adapted purely for the track, just doesn't work for me. I'm shocked that there's any Zonda that I don't love, but this is it.
The Merc is just out of this league. Big car with an automatic transmission. There is no way around it. Out of the running. And, race bred or not, the same is true for the Maser. Simply too big and bulky. Enzo derived or not, that car is simply huge.
That leaves the Enzo++. I've never been overwhelmed with the car, until I saw this one. It's a beautiful piece. Light and lithe. Just what I'd want in a sports car.
But the reality is that all of these (well, maybe not the Merc) are just too precious pieces of art to be taken out on the track and beaten on by someone with money burning holes in his/her pockets. These are works of art. The first time they get scuffed or crunched, it would be a crime. And if they stay pristine, you're really not tracking them hard enough.

I can see where your coming from with that. The rear looks very busy and disturbed. Nonetheless I thought this comparison would be a lot more closely matched, especially with the beauty and soul of the MC12, and since this is the only proper race car actually used in championship races from these choices.

The torque of the FXX is disappointing,i expected 700nm+ at least

Zonda R only needs better looking exhaust, this one seems weak for such car...

I think the current one is perfect for the purpose and status of the car,it only accentuates the raw nature of that devil

I think the internal diameter should be bigger, just a little bit.

Weight reduction protocol..

What are you, Zonda engineer?

I meant just the end of the exhaust, not the whole system.

I wish


I know what u meant i was just guessing and messing

Messing rather...

Well u know me..a fan of fun