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Old 10-29-2007, 11:15 AM   #76
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Re: Car & Driver: RS4 vs C63 vs M3

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I agree the 4-door M3 would be a more appropriate competitor to these two. The points it would lose in performance would probably be made up in points gained for better rear-seat/trunk space. And granted, this is only one result of many more to come.




I agree! Car&Driver is known to exaggerate a good deal and thay did so with the weight factor of the M3 compared with the C63 not considering the fact that the M3 tested here is a coupe. Naturally a 4-door is going to be heavier, (goofballs) The M3 4-door should have been tested here.

I also hate the way thay drag test the 0-60 times with the brake-torque method, it doesn`t allow the engine to build it`s power naturally. With the big torque of the C63 you know it`s going to win.

Congrats to the M3 coupe for the victory but I still say this wasn`t a defeat
for the C63. It was complamented as being the most rewarding experience overall (not only for straight line blasts) It got 1 place for driver position and ergonomics which is critical.
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Old 10-29-2007, 12:21 PM   #77
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Re: Car & Driver: RS4 vs C63 vs M3

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When did I say that I (or anybody) was "unbeatable"? I just said that the C63 will likely beat the M3 on everyday roads. And I bet the next RS4 will likely beat the C63 in a few years time.
I havent said you said it. it was me who said it
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Old 10-31-2007, 01:57 PM   #78
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Re: Car & Driver: RS4 vs C63 vs M3

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In one test they say that if the M3 driver isnt on top of his heel and toe game..he wouldnt even know wich way the C63 went..

I guess that summs it up...
That quote was from Autocar and Chris Harris made it. CH is a well respected driver and has many event wins to his name ( the boy can drive.....very well)

another quote from the same article

"I cant think i ever imagined a time when i would state, unequivocally, that a fact c class would have better steering than an M3, but that time has come. The M3s rack has been the subject of much debate since its launch. I dont have a problem with its apparent lack of 'feel' as some because you can stillplace it accuratly through any turn, but the weighting and steering feel of the C63 are both superior. Turn the wheels 15 degrees either side of centre ( as yoy do many times on the on the road to Frankfurt) and your hands and shoulders are met with more resistance than they are in the M3. Thers somthing to push against, in the M3 its just lighter, there isnt as much information to help you judge the amount of lock required. Small point Big difference.

and btw CH has bought an M3.
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