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2 Italians & 1 GermanThis is a discussion on 2 Italians & 1 German within the Internal Combustion forums, part of the Website Forums category; Vehicle Type 2 passenger, 2 door coupe…........Mercedes SLR 2 passenger, 2 door coupe…........Ferrari 599 GTB 2 passenger, 2 door coupe…........Lamborghini ... |
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| Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 |     | 23 | 34.85% |
| Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano |    | 31 | 46.97% |
| Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren |    | 12 | 18.18% |
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10-19-2007, 11:43 PM
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  | 2 Italians & 1 German    Vehicle Type 2 passenger, 2 door coupe…........Mercedes SLR 2 passenger, 2 door coupe…........Ferrari 599 GTB 2 passenger, 2 door coupe…........Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 Engine 6496cc DOHC 48Valve V12.…………………..............Lamborghini Mucielago LP640 5999cc DOHC 48Valve V12.…………………..............Ferrari 599 GTB 5439cc Supercharged SOHC 24Valve V8……........Mercedes SLR Horsepower @ Rpm 640 @ 8000.…….Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 620 @ 7600.…….Ferrari 599 GTB 617 @ 6500.…….Mercedes SLR Torque @ rpm (lb-ft) 575 @ 3250.……Mercedes SLR 487 @ 6000.……Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 448 @ 5600.……Ferrari 599 GTB Redline @ RPM 8500.……….Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 8400.……….Ferrari 599 GTB 7000.……….Mercedes SLR Driveline AWD……Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 RWD……Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano RWD……Mercedes SLR Engine Location Middle…….Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 Front………Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano Front………Mercedes SLR Transmission 6-speed manual with automatic shifting and clutch.............Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 6-speed paddle-shift manual……………………………..................Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano 5-speed paddle-shift automatic…………………………................Mercedes SLR Nurburgring 20.6Km(12.8Miles) Lamborghini Murciélago LP640 --------------7.47 min Ferrari 599 GTB ---------------------------7.47 min Mercedes SLR ----------------------------7.52 min Hockenheim 2.6Km(1.62Miles) Lamborghini Murciélago LP640 ------------------1.11,8 min Ferrari 599 GTB -------------------------------1.12,0 min Mercedes SLR --------------------------------1.13,5 min Top Gear Test Track Murcielago LP640 ------------------------1.19,8 Mercedes SLR ---------------------------1.20,9 Wet Handling Course 1.78km(1.11Miles) Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 ------------------1.29,2 Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano------------------------1.31,8 60 Foot Slalom (Mph) 42.7 - Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 42.3 - Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano 41.9 - Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren 120 Foot Slalom (Mph) 83.3 - Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 82.6 - Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano 80.2 - Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren 360 Foot Evasive (Mph) 95.1 - Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 94.4 - Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren 90.1 - Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano Cornering G's 1.30 - Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 1.25 – Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren 1.20 - Ferarri 599 GTB Fiorano 700 Foot Slalom (mph) 66.5 - Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 69.6 - Mercedes SLR 71.2 - Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano Weight Distribution F/R 50.0/50.0 - Mercedes SLR 48.0/52.0 - 599 GTB Fiorano 42.0/58.0 - Murcielago LP640 Curb Weight (lbs) 3848 - Mercedes SLR 3861 – Ferarri 599 GTB 3976 – Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 Fuel Consumption Average (mpg) 11.0 – Ferrari 599 GTB 11.0 – Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 10.8 – Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren 0-50km/h (0-31mph) 1.4 - Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 1.5 - Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano 1.7 - Mercedes SLR 0-100km/h (0-62mph) 3.5 - Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 3.7 - Ferarri 599 GTB 3.8 - Mercedes SLR 0-161km/h (0-100mph) 7.0 - Ferrari 599 GTB 7.5 - Mercedes SLR 7.7 - Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 0-200km/h (0-124mph) 10.8 - Ferrari 599 GTB 11.2 - Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 11.3 - Mercedes SLR 0-200km/h-0 15.8 - Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren 15.9 - Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano 16.1 - Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 200km/h-0 (feet) 431.8 – Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren 445.2 - Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 460.6 - Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano 200km/h-0 (sec) 4.5 - Mercedes SLR 4.9 - Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 5.1 - Ferrari 599 GTB 0-250km/h (0-155mph) 16.6 - Ferrari 599 GTB 17.7 - Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 18.1 - Mercedes SLR 0-300km/h (0-186mph) 29.9 - Ferrari 599 GTB 30.6 - Mercedes SLR 31.8 - Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 Flexibility 80-120km/h (50-75mph) in 4th Gear 3.7 - Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano F1 4.1 - Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren 4.3 - Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 Flexibility 80-180km/h (50-112mph) in 4/5/6 gear 8.1/10.2/13.3 ---------Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano 10.5/13.4/NA ---------Mercedes SLR 11.3/13.7/16.4 ------ Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 402 m (1/4mile) sec @ mph 11.2 @ 129.3 -------------- Ferrari 599 GTB 11.5 @ 127.5 ---------------Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 11.5 @ 126.1 ---------------Mercedes SLR Top Speed Figures (Mph) 211.3 - Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 208.2 - Ferrari 599 GTB 207.5 - Mercedes SLR Base Price (in USA) $278,345.……..Ferrari 599 GTB $384,724.......Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 $450,000.…….Mercedes SLR
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10-20-2007, 01:54 AM
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| Re: 2 Italians & 1 German Terrific stats CarGuy, what's their source?
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| Re: 2 Italians & 1 German five hundred ninety nine GTB for me please.. 
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| Re: 2 Italians & 1 German I'll go with the Lambo.. The SLR comes second. Don't like the Ferrari at all, don't like its look. |
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10-20-2007, 08:19 AM
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| Re: 2 Italians & 1 German Lambo all the way. Plus, I think the Ferrari is ugly.
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10-21-2007, 04:23 AM
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| Re: 2 Italians & 1 German All three are epic cars. Only one manages to make use of the pinnacle of modern automotive technology and be the whole that is more than the sum of its parts. The incomparably complete and multi-talented 599 GTB.
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10-21-2007, 04:57 AM
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| Re: 2 Italians & 1 German Nice compilation stats there. What is surprising is that LP640 has a higher redline yet makes lower HP/liter compared to the F599. LP640 is tempting for its epic looks, F599 gets my vote for being 'imho' better car. |
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| Re: 2 Italians & 1 German Quote:
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| Re: 2 Italians & 1 German The Ferrari please, black or yellow. Very classic look.
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| Re: 2 Italians & 1 German Quote:
and it's awsome preformance! 
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| Re: 2 Italians & 1 German Id just like to add that in a striaght line, according to those who either own or have driven both the SLR is the fastest. the LP640 and 599 should be slightly faster from a roll, and LP640 from a dig. the SLR with traction control on = no wheelspin traps 128 mph cosistantly and according to an owner, 60-80 km/h on a cool night and floor it...you will get TONS of wheelspin. my choice is the LP640. id modify it as such: -new exhaust = 30 + whp and minus 100 lbs as the LP640 has the same exhaust as 6.2 Murcie -convert to rwd = another 30 whp minus another 150-200 lbs -CF clutch = + 10 whp according to a guy who did it -CF seats = take off another 70 lbs -CF rims = off another 50 lbs (little more than 10 per coner) -change hyraulic lift for electric = save another 30 lbs all in all, quite a bit more hp going to the ground, off with ~400 lbs. then if thats not enough you can always TT it |
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| Re: 2 Italians & 1 German Ferrari for me. The 599GTB beats the SLR at its own game for much less money and it is likely the better day to day car over the Lambo. Ferrari easily IMO. Impressive data collection though I must say. M
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| Re: 2 Italians & 1 German Lambo for me please. Love the looks of it a lot more than both of the other ones.
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| Re: 2 Italians & 1 German Update Top Gear Test Track Murcielago LP640 ------------------------1.19,8 Mercedes SLR ---------------------------1.20,9 Ferrari 599 -----------------------1.21,2
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| Re: 2 Italians & 1 German i picked lambo...based on performance...but i would buy the ferrari....the slr is way too ugly
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| Re: 2 Italians & 1 German Despite Top Gear's laptime result on their mono-dimensional and inconsistent test track my vote goes with what has to be the best and most completely engineered road car in the world. The Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano. P.S. Did anyone watch the Megafactories program on National Geographic channel? It documents the production process of the 599 GTB through the Maranello factory. Amazing - what a sophisticated piece of machinery...
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| Re: 2 Italians & 1 German Quote:
Of course, that's only a personal opinion of mine. But yes, taking it from a viability standpoint I'd say that any car that costs 10 times more to produce than what it sells for can't possibly qualify as an engineering success. Whilst it is pure overkill and a superlative effort, as a loss maker of epic proportions the Veyron will always be the epitome of automotive over-spending.
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