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If you ask me, whoever reviewed these cars was very biased towards the Cadillac. I don't doubt that it's a bad car, but the way he described the C-Class makes me wonder if he even drove it...

Even worse, this clown calls the C-Class "Boring..."...







With three new entry luxury models in the house it seemed only fitting to carve out a few hours and carve up the local roadways in back-to-back drives. With the help of fellow editors Erin Riches and James Riswick we headed into the Santa Monica Mountains with a Cadillac CTS, Infiniti G35 and Mercedes-Benz C350, all 2008 models with automatic transmissions and sport packages. While much of the route was on twisty roads, there was enough high-speed cruising on PCH to test the "luxury" side of this equation. Here's what I learned:

1. Cadillac CTS: This car has the best steering feel of the group. The G35's is quicker (faster ratio) but it's also heavier and, honestly, a bit too hyperactive. The Mercedes' is similar in feel and ratio, but it doesn't deliver the intuitive feedback that the CTS offers. Ride quality is softer than either, and it feels like the biggest and heaviest of the group -- probably because it is. It also has the best interior design in my opinion, though there are subtle aspects of its interior quality that could be better. In terms of audio/entertainment system -- both design, ergonomics and quality -- it nukes the others.

2. Infiniti G35: Within seconds of starting the G35 it's clear Infiniti was sick of hearing the same old "the 3 Series is still sportier" song from journalists. They've turned everything up on the G35 -- steering ratio, engine power, suspension tuning. It worked, as the car is the "sportiest" of this bunch. Problem is, it's not the one I want to drive. Like a hopped up '80s rock star, the G35 puts on quite a show -- but its a bit too high strung for a long-term, family-oriented relationship.

3. Mercedes-Benz C350: To quote my favorite non-incarcerated Simpson -- "BOOOORING!" The C-Class is fully prepared to meet the family. In fact, it's already moved into the spare bedroom and thrown out all the high-cholesterol food in the house. As usual, if you're looking for bank-vault serenity behind the wheel this one delivers. And if you put it into a four-wheel drift after the apex it will even cooperate...but something about the C-Class will make you feel immature rather than inspired. Ultimately there is nothing seriously wrong with the C350. There's also nothing seriously wrong with the Toyota Camry, and plenty of people buy both and live happily ever after...

Here's the tricky part: Despite being the "fattest" of this group, the Cadillac CTS was also the one I liked the best. Beyond having the best steering feel the CTS had the best combination of luxurious ride quality and sporty handling. It also had the roomiest interior and most appealing exhaust note.

Yes, the Inifniti will likely perform better in the slalom (we'll know soon enough...) and pull better lap times at a track, but its high-strung demeanor and the associated cost in steering response and overall ride quality is too high in my opinion. The Mercedes-Benz C-Class continues to deliver all those M-B traits that M-B fans have come to expect. I can't really fault the C350 (except for my continued annoyance with COMAND), but I can't get excited about it, either.

The Cadillac CTS seems to be the perfect balance between these two. Far more personality than the C350, far more comfort and luxury (and better steering feel) than the G35 -- while still proving capable and entertaining on fast sweepers. Cadillac needs to extend the seat bottom for better thigh support, and install paddle shifters to authenticate its sport sedan intentions. Otherwise I wouldn't change a thing. It's great to see Cadillac carving out it's own place in this competitive segment. They've stopped trying to be an American version of the German or Japanese entry-luxury sport sedan. Instead they've simply created an American entry-luxury sport sedan, and a damn good one.


Link: Karl on Cars - Entry Luxury Fun: Cadillac CTS - Infiniti G35 - MB C350

HAHAHA this is one of the most retarded results ive seen..

Didn't Cadillac say the new CTS is rival for the E-Class? Now it's being compared to the C-Class? Really is a question of Whisky Tango Foxtrot?

Edmunds was always harsh on the new C,pisses me off

Really? I recall they loved C63 and CLK63 Black Series?

Cadillacs are nice but I don't think they'll be able to last more than 2 years. This is the problem generally with American cars. they age badly (not interms of design, tear and wear + mechanical parts). The japaneese cars are nice and all, might have developed alot, but it lacks the prestige of the germancs. In addition, although mechanically reliable, some parts are cheap. Example, my friend owned a Lexus for 2 years, now the bumbers are totally not matching the coloring of the car. Plastics faded, leather is badly worn although its not heavily used. I don't know but everything feels artificial. The leather, the wood .. etc

As i remember they gave it a hard time hen testing the C350 and said lots of crap including that it is seriously underpowered,just how in the world a 272ho compact sedan is underpowered?! u must be driving 500+hp cars as ur daily ride to say that the C350 is underpowered

I'm flabbergasted when people complain about COMAND. It's the easiest thing to use IME. In fact I wish the touch-shift was a function of COMAND, then I'd never take my hand off that dial. I don't even use the steering wheel volume controls much anymore. I doubt this chump even really tried to use it.

They probably mean underpowered in comparison to the competition.

But this review goes to show that you can find a review to support any point of view.

They didn't say compared to competition but underpoered in general

Perhaps they should check this out:



The "underpowered" C350 did pretty well against the more powerful Cadillac.

Whowhoo that bimmer is flying fast

PS I've driven the new C350 and it didnt feel underpowered.

Damn, the 335 is in a different league. Yeah, the CTS did pretty crap despite all the power.

I was looking all over Edmunds for this and then I realized it really wasn't a formal comparo test from them, just an Editor's blog. This guy Karl has been a major GM hater over the years and now he's trying to make peace with some of the more vocal GM fans on Edmunds messege boards hence this result. Until Edmunds does a formal comparision test I wouldn't put to much into this.

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