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Old 09-29-2007, 11:36 AM   #26
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Re: BMW 745d vs Mercedes S420 CDI vs Lexus LS600h

WoW the Lexus is heavier than a Range Rover
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Old 09-29-2007, 01:19 PM   #27
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Re: BMW 745d vs Mercedes S420 CDI vs Lexus LS600h

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WoW the Lexus is heavier than a Range Rover
Yeh, it's definately not a light car.

BTW how much does the Phaeton V10 TDI and W12 weight?
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Re: BMW 745d vs Mercedes S420 CDI vs Lexus LS600h

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Great news! Will you scan the first drive of the 997 GT2, btw?
Hey guys,

SORRY I have not delivered on the promise yet. So much stuff coming up overhere. I will scan it tomorrow. That's a promise! And yep, I will also scan the 997 GT2 article.

Got to go now!


EDIT: I saw that Ree did his homework! Cool! Checking if the 997 GT2 article has been scanned by Ree. If not, I will do it.
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Re: BMW 745d vs Mercedes S420 CDI vs Lexus LS600h

Thanks so much.

Would someone kindly translate the German categories on the results list?
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Thanks so much.

Would someone kindly translate the German categories on the results list?
Here. I am going to create a translation section for these terms.



FAHRZEUGTYP = Type of vehicle

KAROSSERIE = Body / Bodywork

Innenmaße = Inside spacial measurements
Raumgefühl = Inside spacial feeling
Koffeeraum = Luggage compartment
Zuladung = Payload capacity
Funktionalität = Functionality
Serien-/Zusatzausstattung = Standard- / Optional equipment
Sicherheitsausstattung (passiv) = Passive safety features
Qualitätsanmutung = Quality impression


BEDIENSICHERHEIT = Ease of use / ease of vision

Rundumsicht / Übersichtlichkeit = Vision from car
Bedienbarkeit = Ergonomics (ease of use)
Licht = Light
Instrumente = Instruments


FAHRKOMFORT = Comfort

Federung leer = Suspension (empty)
Federung beladen = Suspension (loaded)
Sitze vorn = Seats (front)
Sitze hinten = Seats (rear)
Klimatisierung = Airconditioning
Innengeräusch-Messwerte = Interior noises (electronically measured)
Geräuscheindruck = Interior noises
Wendekreis = Turning circle


ANTRIEB = Propulsion

Laufkultur = Refinement
Durchzugskraft = Elasticity (midrange power)
Leistungsenfaltung = Power band
Schaltung / Getriebeabstuf. = Transmission
Beschl. / Höchstgeschwindigkeit = Acceleration / top speed
Testverbrauch = Fuel economy
Reichweite = Range


FAHRSICHERHEIT = Driving safety

Fachsicherheit leer = Driving safety (empty)
Fachsicherheit beladen = Driving safety (loaded)
Fahrdynamik-Test = Driving dynamics
Sicherheitsausstattung (aktiv) = Active safety features
Handling = Handling
Lenkung = Steering
Traktion / Wintertrauglichkeit = Traction / Drivability in winter
Geradeauslauf / Windempf. = Straight driving (no hands on steering wheel) / reaction to wind


BREMSEN = Brakes

Bremsweg leer (100 km/h) = Braking (empty) @ 100 km/h
Bremsweg kalt beladen (100 km/h) = Braking (cold & loaded) @ 100 km/h
Bremsweg warm beladen (100 km/h) = Braking (warm & loaded) @ 100 km/h
Bremsweg aus 190 km/h = Braking @ 190 km/h
Pedalgefühl = Pedal feel
u-Split-Stabilität = ?
u-Split-Bremsweg = ?
Bremsassistent = Braking assistant


EIGENSCHAFTSWERTUNG = Qualitative Ratings


UMWELT = Environment

Minimalverbrauch = Minimal fuel consumption
Emissionsverhalten = Emissions
Leergewicht = Empty weight
Stand- und Fahrgeräusch = Driving noises @ idle & motion


KOSTEN = Costs

Grundpreis = Base price
Aufpreisgestaltung = Extra costs
Wiederverkaufschancen = Resale outlook
Festkosten für 5 Jahre = Fixed costs (5 years)
Wart. / Rep. 100,000 km = Maintenance & repairs for 100,000 km
Kraftstoff 100,000 km = Fuel costs for 100,000 km
Garantie = Guarantee

GESAMTWERTUNG = Total ratings
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Old 09-30-2007, 08:32 AM   #33
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Re: BMW 745d vs Mercedes S420 CDI vs Lexus LS600h

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WoW the Lexus is heavier than a Range Rover
The batteries are heavy, as well as the electric motor and other related components. As I have said before, this Lexus is for those who want to sit on the moral high ground and look down on others, while in fact their Lexus is useless and unnecessary. Hate those people, eg countless Hollywood tree slaves. Anyway back on topic, MB over the others for sure. The Lexus really have crappy brakes. from 190km/h to 0took 152m while the BMW used 138m. MB require 142m to fully stop the car. It doesn't matter if the Lexus has all these active radar braking system, if the actual braking hardware is crap, you are going to crash.
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